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  1. #4076

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The honey was appealing to common decency and concern for their fellow man.
    Again, I am not advocating for what is happening in this state. I just know that, in my experience recently, mask-shaming works about as well as the American justice system - not well at all.

  2. #4077

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    But that is not going to happen in this state or many states.

    So public pressure still remains about the only recourse when you see fully half the population willing to make the smallest of altruistic acts.
    No someone in one of these states needs to get a pair of balls and just shut things down for 2-3 weeks. People will bitch and moan and be in an uproar in which they leaders needs to say we tried telling you to wear mask and it didn't work so this is the next step. DEAL WITH IT. Never happen though but it needs too.

  3. #4078

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    No someone in one of these states needs to get a pair of balls and just shut things down for 2-3 weeks. People will bitch and moan and be in an uproar in which they leaders needs to say we tried telling you to wear mask and it didn't work so this is the next step. DEAL WITH IT. Never happen though but it needs too.
    Screw people who gave finally come back to work, right? They don't matter much.

  4. #4079

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    Screw people who gave finally come back to work, right? They don't matter much.
    Was this supposed to be English?

  5. #4080

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    Screw people who gave finally come back to work, right? They don't matter much.
    If Hospitals start to over flow and more and more people start seeing someone struggling with this virus how many people do you think will want to go out to eat or back to the office or out to shop? If it gets bad enough the economy is going to tank even more so than a 2 week shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    Screw people who gave finally come back to work, right? They don't matter much.
    Were you equally concerned about the essential workers that were forced to return to work?

  7. #4082

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    If Hospitals start to over flow and more and more people start seeing someone struggling with this virus how many people do you think will want to go out to eat or back to the office or out to shop? If it gets bad enough the economy is going to tank even more so than a 2 week shut down.
    You need to get over this two to three weeks fantasy. It would take two to three months of complete lockdown. Probably more like six ir more. No leadership in the US is going to do that.

  8. #4083

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    You need to get over this two to three weeks fantasy. It would take two to three months of complete lockdown. Probably more like six ir more. No leadership in the US is going to do that.
    Well yeah now it's too late probably would have to be longer than a month. How long was Italy, Spain, and France closed for?

  9. #4084

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    Were you equally concerned about the essential workers that were forced to return to work?
    No one has been forced to return to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilmud View Post
    No one has been forced to return to work.
    You're right. Those grocery workers, delivery people, sanitation workers and health care providers could have just quit, but then not received unemployment benefits. How many could afford to quit?

  11. #4086

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    You're right. Those grocery workers, delivery people, sanitation workers and health care providers could have just quit, but then not received unemployment benefits. How many could afford to quit?
    Yes they could quit. It’s well within their rights. Many people will be bankrupt and homeless when this is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilmud View Post
    Yes they could quit. It’s well within their rights. Many people will be bankrupt and homeless when this is over.
    So let's make these people choose between providing for their families and returning to an unsafe workplace. Technically not "forcing" them to return to work but not much of a choice either. Personally, I'm lucky I didn't have to make that choice and I feel empathy for those that did have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    So let's make these people choose between providing for their families and returning to an unsafe workplace. Technically not "forcing" them to return to work but not much of a choice either. Personally, I'm lucky I didn't have to make that choice and I feel empathy for those that did have to.

    I agree business should never be shut down by the government we all need the opportunity to provide for our families

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilmud View Post
    I agree business should never be shut down by the government we all need the opportunity to provide for our families
    Even if you die from it? Who is going to provide for your family then?

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    To feed your family, if l were a 20-45 year old provider, the death rate was .2% back in March per the CDC. This rate is probably less now. I'd risk it if l were healthy and of that age.

  16. #4091

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    Were you equally concerned about the essential workers that were forced to return to work?
    I thought most "essential" workers weren't really essential. The government just knew the risk of having 2/3rds of the workers not working for a month and a half. I thought most jobs moving remote was great. I did it, and I wish I still could.

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    R.I.P. Nick Cordero, age 41. His death should be a lesson to those who downplay this virus or its effects.

  18. #4093

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    Even if you die from it? Who is going to provide for your family then?
    Will you help me provide for my family? I’d absolutely die trying to give them everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugofbeer View Post
    To feed your family, if l were a 20-45 year old provider, the death rate was .2% back in March per the CDC. This rate is probably less now. I'd risk it if l were healthy and of that age.
    Pretty easy to answer that question when you only have to answer it hypothetically

  20. #4095

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    If we don't get this thing under control then the economy is going to be absolutely wrecked even with things "open" for a long time. I absolutely think the best thing for the economy—and health too... it's not a coincidence those two are interlinked during a pandemic—would be to enact:

    1. Hard shut down of the entire country for 2-3 weeks
    2. Another round of relief
    3. Required mask wearing nationwide after

    Anything less is window dressing. You can talk about your freedom all day, but if we don't take drastic action then it's going to just drag on. Unfortunately our first shut down was wasted by incompetent leaders and selfish, naive citizens.

    Of course, there's no evidence there's political leadership from this administration to Stitt to Holt. They've all failed.

  21. #4096

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilmud View Post
    No one has been forced to return to work.
    This is 1000% wrong. Wow. Do you really believe this?

  22. #4097

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    If we don't get this thing under control then the economy is going to be absolutely wrecked even with things "open" for a long time. I absolutely think the best thing for the economy—and health too... it's not a coincidence those two are interlinked during a pandemic—would be to enact:

    1. Hard shut down of the entire country for 2-3 weeks
    2. Another round of relief
    3. Required mask wearing nationwide after

    Anything less is window dressing. You can talk about your freedom all day, but if we don't take drastic action then it's going to just drag on. Unfortunately our first shut down was wasted by incompetent leaders and selfish, naive citizens.

    Of course, there's no evidence there's political leadership from this administration to Stitt to Holt. They've all failed.
    It's probably too late. The US has utterly failed. There are still morons arguing that they shouldn't have to wear a f*cking mask while recently opened restaurants and stores are self closing because they are having coronavirus outbreaks among their staffs. This is an avoidable tragedy. I cannot believe all of my stupid neighbors illegally shooting off fireworks to celebrate this $hiT$how of a country. God bless the people who rationed food and stockpiled lead for bullets during World War II. Not only did they value and understand what "freedom" means in our country, they understood that their rights came with responsibilities. But those days are obviously long gone.

    There's no point putting lipstick on this pig. The US has utterly failed, and will continue to fail, and no amount of boosterish nonsense is going to bring our economy back. Fauci said early on that we don't define the timeline, the virus does.

    We now know how this is spread and we could take action to virtually eliminate the spread without shutting down businesses but there are too many selfish morons in this country who are unwilling to take basic steps to get this under control. At this point, it is completely out of control.

    I am extremely disappointed that Mayor Holt is not taking action on a mask ordinance. He is a great mayor and he is literally like the only major public official who has done anything in our backward state (along with the Norman mayor who, unbelievably, is receiving DEATH THREATS for her decisions to protect the public), but it is absurd that he is still espousing "personal responsibility" as a solution when it is abundantly obvious that too many of our fellow Okies do not understand nor will ever exercise "public responsibility." Holt is a Republican, after all, and for some reason, Republicans seem to believe in this magical "personal responsibility" fairy tale.

    This is a wayward ship hurtling toward an iceberg.

  23. #4098

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    It's probably too late. The US has utterly failed. There are still morons arguing that they shouldn't have to wear a f*cking mask while recently opened restaurants and stores are self closing because they are having coronavirus outbreaks among their staffs. This is an avoidable tragedy. I cannot believe all of my stupid neighbors illegally shooting off fireworks to celebrate this $hiT$how of a country. God bless the people who rationed food and stockpiled lead for bullets during World War II. Not only did they value and understand what "freedom" means in our country, they understood that their rights came with responsibilities. But those days are obviously long gone.

    There's no point putting lipstick on this pig. The US has utterly failed, and will continue to fail, and no amount of boosterish nonsense is going to bring our economy back. Fauci said early on that we don't define the timeline, the virus does.

    We now know how this is spread and we could take action to virtually eliminate the spread without shutting down businesses but there are too many selfish morons in this country who are unwilling to take basic steps to get this under control. At this point, it is completely out of control.

    I am extremely disappointed that Mayor Holt is not taking action on a mask ordinance. He is a great mayor and he is literally like the only major public official who has done anything in our backward state (along with the Norman mayor who, unbelievably, is receiving DEATH THREATS for her decisions to protect the public), but it is absurd that he is still espousing "personal responsibility" as a solution when it is abundantly obvious that too many of our fellow Okies do not understand nor will ever exercise "public responsibility." Holt is a Republican, after all, and for some reason, Republicans seem to believe in this magical "personal responsibility" fairy tale.

    This is a wayward ship hurtling toward an iceberg.
    x1000

  24. #4099

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    We never got all those freedoms back after having to wear masks in 1918, it’s amazing we are even still a country 100 years after that evil overreach and attack of our liberties during the flu pandemic back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    We never got all those freedoms back after having to wear masks in 1918, it’s amazing we are even still a country 100 years after that evil overreach and attack of our liberties during the flu pandemic back then.

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    Sorry to feed a troll message, but what specific freedoms were surrendered and how did they threaten our country?

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