Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Libbymin]

The least we can do is close down bars and gyms. I think we should do a mask mandate too. Kansas just ordered one.

Not only is this not going to get better on its own, it's just going to get worse so we have to do something.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Hospitalizations are up to late April/Early May levels but still well below capacity so that is good.

I just hope contact tracers are finding where these cases are coming from and the OK gov can make some recommendations to stem the rise. Hospitalizations generally take a while to occur so I tend to think what they will look like in a week or two from big case days.

[okvortex]

Yep, 585 new cases today; the previous record was 482.

And typically, Wed-Fri bring the biggest numbers of the week.

2 more people died.

That is a big number, but I've heard that the positive cases being reported now include positive antibody tests. Can anyone confirm this? This would be important if it is the case. That would mean that there are not 585 new ACTIVE cases.

[C_M_25]

It is not AS concerning the case spikes, when you consider that deaths are not going up, hardly at all. I wonder what the hospitalizations look like today. If they are still relatively low, then I feel we need to stop freaking the heck out EVERY SINGLE DAY over case #s, and start focusing on the hospitalization #s increasing or decreasing.

You do realize that hospitalizations and deaths often lag behind positive test by weeks, right? We’re already seeing hospitalizations rise slightly from the numbers a week or two ago. A week or two from now is when I would expect to see the impacts from today’s numbers. That’s why everyone freaks out over daily numbers. However, I feel like we should be looking at daily percentage positive. It’s a much better diagnostic.

[Pete]

stop freaking the heck out EVERY SINGLE DAY over case #s

Yes, people should definitely wait to freak out until a lot more people die.

[Libbymin]

I've mentioned this before but it's worth reiterating that this disease has already shown to have long-term serious health effects on "recovered" patients and those with "mild" cases. Things they may end up dealing with for the rest of their lives. And this isn't just for people over 60's, this is for people in their 20's and 30's. That's why I think it's a mistake to only be worried about the deaths number.

[Pete]

We simply don't know enough about the long-term effects of this virus to be okay with millions of people getting it, even if they don't die or go to the hospital.

The U.S. will soon have over 3 million positive tests and we're setting new records almost every day now.

There are good reasons other developed countries have worked so hard to shut this thing down, and here we are with the most resources in the world getting banned from traveling to the EU because we can't get our act together.

[jccouger]

You do realize that hospitalizations and deaths often lag behind positive test by weeks, right? We’re already seeing hospitalizations rise slightly from the numbers a week or two ago. A week or two from now is when I would expect to see the impacts from today’s numbers. That’s why everyone freaks out over daily numbers. However, I feel like we should be looking at daily percentage positive. It’s a much better diagnostic.

Yeah, we are 4 months in to this you’d think it would be common knowledge deaths always lag cases spikes.

But I will say it does seem like hospitals are getting better at treating patients to at least prevent deaths.

[SoonerDave]

There's something a bit off in the daily summary. In the EOR for 6/29, they indicated 343,623 tests completed. But in *today's* summary, they show the same number of tests completed. That implies no new tests completed Monday, which obviously doesn't make sense. Hope this is clarified.

[C_M_25]

Yeah, we are 4 months in to this you’d think it would be common knowledge deaths always lag cases spikes.

But I will say it does seem like hospitals are getting better at treating patients to at least prevent deaths.

Agreed. They are doing a much better job. There has also been some fringe reports that covid may be losing its potency. I really hope that’s true.

[SoonerDave]

Agreed. They are doing a much better job. There has also been some fringe reports that covid may be losing its potency. I really hope that’s true.

There were reports from Italy about twomor three weeks ago in which a doctor claimed to have seen newer cases of COVD to have a consistently lower impact on newer patients, and he theorized that COVD had mutated to a form with less severe effects. He was immediately criticized by media outlets for expressing that sentiment, even though it was clear to me he was not stating it as some scientifically proven fact. It was observational on his part. I've heard nothing more on this notion since that time.

[C_M_25]

There were reports from Italy about twomor three weeks ago in which a doctor claimed to have seen newer cases of COVD to have a consistently lower impact on newer patients, and he theorized that COVD had mutated to a form with less severe effects. He was immediately criticized by media outlets for expressing that sentiment, even though it was clear to me he was not stating it as some scientifically proven fact. It was observational on his part. I've heard nothing more on this notion since that time.

There have been other reports out of Europe and I believe somewhere on the east coast of the same phenomenon more recently. I’ll see if I can dig up the articles.

[Mott]

This article can be read in a number of ways.....
https://theconversation.com/coronavi...nfected-141584

[jdizzle]

So are we still on the "no false positive tests" and "most positive antibody tests are false" trains?

[Motley]

There is an interesting article on fivethirtyeight.com that tracks several models predicting the number of deaths going forward. The slope of the graph does not appear to be moderating very much to me. The article allows one to check to see which model is tracking more accurately. Today it is showing the estimates for July 25. If you go back to June 1 on the graph, it gave predictions for June 27. Many forecast very closely to the actual on that day.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...s/?cid=rrpromo

[TheTravellers]

There's been a real cascade of local restaurants/bars closing now or going back to curbside only, either due to a positive test or as a precaution.

I've seen...
Picasso Cafe
Oso
Blue Seven
Chick N Beer
Tamashii Ramen (positive case)
Social Capital (positive case)
Pump Bar (positive case)
Bunker Club
Sunnyside Diner (Edmond) (positive case)
R&J Supper Lounge
Bellini's (positive case)
McClintock Saloon and Chophouse
Eagle One Pizza (Moore)
HiLo Club (positive case)
Lost Highway Bar (positive case)
Revolucion
ZamZam Mediterranean Grill
The Indigo Attic
Hamilton Supperette
Red Cup Cafe
En Croute
The Press (positive case)
Flashback RetroPub
RedPrime Steakhouse (positive case)

Thank you for this list, very informative! Did you gather up all the info yourself or is there a central place that keeps track of this kind of thing?

[C_M_25]

Fox News so take with a big grain of salt but:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/pitts...nt-than-before

[HangryHippo]

Thank you for this list, very informative! Did you gather up all the info yourself or is there a central place that keeps track of this kind of thing?

KOCO reporters' Twitter accounts and Oklahoma Source on Facebook are pretty good sources for this information.

[soonerguru]

It is not AS concerning the case spikes, when you consider that deaths are not going up, hardly at all. I wonder what the hospitalizations look like today. If they are still relatively low, then I feel we need to stop freaking the heck out EVERY SINGLE DAY over case #s, and start focusing on the hospitalization #s increasing or decreasing.

People are not freaking out “every single day.” Stop with the hyperbole. These are unprecedented numbers indicating exponential case number increases.

That means it is quickly spreading in the community and WILL spread to vulnerable people, who will get it and die.

Thoughtless, irresponsible post.

[Pete]

Keep in mind, restaurants and bars are not required to close after an employee tests positive.

So the list above merely represents businesses that volunteered the information.

I happen to know there have been several more places that have had employees test positive and not close or publicize that information.


And, both McClintock and Revolucion self-reported positive cases, although in the case of the former, they just said that a staff member had been exposed and never gave any update if that person or anyone else working there had ultimately tested positive.

[kukblue1]

There have been other reports out of Europe and I believe somewhere on the east coast of the same phenomenon more recently. I’ll see if I can dig up the articles.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...ss-severe.html Pittsburgh doctor said the same thing. I hope it's true but i think it's just younger people getting it who don't die. In Oklahoma under 50 death rate is 0.1 That is just based on confirmed cases so I'm sure it's even lower than that

[soonerguru]

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...ss-severe.html Pittsburgh doctor said the same thing. I hope it's true but i think it's just younger people getting it who don't die. In Oklahoma under 50 death rate is 0.1 That is just based on confirmed cases so I'm sure it's even lower than that

The concern is NOT JUST ABOUT DEATHS.

[chuck5815]

The concern is NOT JUST ABOUT DEATHS.

You're panicking. Take a few deep breaths.

[kukblue1]

The was another death in the 36-49 range bringing the total up to 16 for people under 49. I don't want to sound like I'm down playing this at all. We don't know what long term effects there will be in younger population or with anyone. However 16 deaths in 3 1/2 months now is not horrible. I wonder how many in that age group has died from other things. Once again I'm not down playing it. We should have mask mandatory. We should be paying our older population to stay home if they are currently working. But this isn't a death sentence if your young and healthy. Doesn't mean you shouldn't take any precautions just mean not freak out if you do get it and your young and healthy.

[midtownokcer]

Tulsa County appears to have gone past its peak with 121 today. Meanwhile, Oklahoma County hit its highest single daily increase with 181 cases today. The previous high was 114 just three days ago. All the triple digit increases in OK County have been in the past two weeks.

Just a month ago (5/30), there were only 88 active cases in Oklahoma County alone. Today, there are 804.
Various Charts:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing