Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[catcherinthewry]

OKC seems to be doing better than the rest of the state:

https://twitter.com/davidfholt/statu...50550052474883

[Bunty]

You have to compare same days of the week, due to the reporting flow.

And on that basis, things look particularly bad.

Last Wed we only had 259 new cases which was a new record at the time; this week 482.

It was Thursday right through the weekend when the numbers really started to take off. If that happens again this week, we are going to have out-right panic.

I don't think there well be anything like a panic as long as hospitals don't get overwhelmed and deaths don't spike. Too bad it may take those two things to happen to get a lot more people to wear masks.

[gopokes88]

OKC seems to be doing better than the rest of the state:

https://twitter.com/davidfholt/statu...50550052474883

Coming here to post. Spike appears to be leveling off.

[OKC Talker]

OKC seems to be doing better than the rest of the state:

https://twitter.com/davidfholt/statu...50550052474883

It's this type of short-sighted and passive "maybe it'll be ok" reasoning that really annoys me. Sure, cherry pick your statistics and ignore the fact that cases outside of city limits are still shooting up and there's a huge crisis in surrounding states. We have an invisible wall keeping those cases from affecting us right?

What people still don't get is that today's case counts are from people who were infected 2 weeks ago, and tomorrow's hospitalizations are from infections almost a month ago. Staring at the numbers each day and "giving it time" is stupid. By the time you see a spike in hospitalizations and decide to do something about it, it's already too late. There's going to be another month before it makes any kind of difference in the hospitalization rates. That's a month more exponential growth that's already happened and you're just chasing the trend watching the hospital beds fill up. Instead of trying to find ways to explain away the cases, we need proactive and forward thinking action. That may be too much to ask in our state and country though...

[kukblue1]

Coming here to post. Spike appears to be leveling off.

Weren't there 82 new cases today though? Up from the 32 yesterday?

[OKC Guy]

OKC seems to be doing better than the rest of the state:

https://twitter.com/davidfholt/statu...50550052474883

He is showing declining numbers and only 1 death in 14 days:

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ICUs have dropped in half the last two days. We still only have one death in the last 14 days. New cases seem to have declined for five straight days, and it definitely appears as if the exponential rise has halted

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidfhol...50550052474883

[kukblue1]

He is showing declining numbers and only 1 death in 14 days:

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ICUs have dropped in half the last two days. We still only have one death in the last 14 days. New cases seem to have declined for five straight days, and it definitely appears as if the exponential rise has halted

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidfhol...50550052474883

1,856 cumulative patients (+82 from June 23) So they went up today then?

[OKC Guy]

1,856 cumulative patients (+82 from June 23) So they went up today then?

I just posted what the mayor said, I would assume he has good stats. If you go to his twitter link he has graphs to go along with it. Any errors are his not mine

[kukblue1]

I just posted what the mayor said, I would assume he has good stats. If you go to his twitter link he has graphs to go along with it. Any errors are his not mine

Looks like his only goes up to the 23rd so doesn't include the 82 from today so our 5 day streak is over in a big way.

[gopokes88]

They’re going to be watching hospitalization and death rates much closer than new cases. Those are going to be the key statistics as to whether lockdowns and restrictions come back. It’s going to spread no matter what.

First wave was to buy the time for PPE and get hospitals ready.

[OKC Talker]

It's this type of short-sighted and passive "maybe it'll be ok" reasoning that really annoys me. Sure, cherry pick your statistics and ignore the fact that cases outside of city limits are still shooting up and there's a huge crisis in surrounding states. We have an invisible wall keeping those cases from affecting us right?

What people still don't get is that today's case counts are from people who were infected 2 weeks ago, and tomorrow's hospitalizations are from infections almost a month ago. Staring at the numbers each day and "giving it time" is stupid. By the time you see a spike in hospitalizations and decide to do something about it, it's already too late. There's going to be another month before it makes any kind of difference in the hospitalization rates. That's a month more exponential growth that's already happened and you're just chasing the trend watching the hospital beds fill up. Instead of trying to find ways to explain away the cases, we need proactive and forward thinking action. That may be too much to ask in our state and country though...

Let's put this in terms people are more familiar with. Imagine the coronavirus is a bad storm cell. The case reports we're watching are the tornado warnings but they only come every half hour. The hospitalizations are live reports from the storm chasers every hour. Are you one of the people who keep mowing their lawn and wait until the storm chasers report a tornado on top of them? Or do you head over to the school gym when the sirens sound? The people out mowing their lawn are probably the same ones out at restaurants and not wearing masks. By the time you hear from the storm chasers it could already be too late... the gym will be full and you're SOL.

[catcherinthewry]

It's this type of short-sighted and passive "maybe it'll be ok" reasoning that really annoys me.

JHC. What a glass half empty guy. I was just pointing out that OKC has recently had better numbers compared to the rest of the state. I didn't make any predictions. Heaven forbid someone post some good news here.

[soonerguru]

I’ve wondered. All along our leaders said the “shut down”, what there was of one, was about not overwhelming the hospitals and letting them prepare for an expected spike when reopening. So how does the current spike compare to what they expected upon reopening. Only the inner circle knows for sure. It would be interesting to know.

This is an exponential spike, not a “predictable rise in cases.” They did not account for this unless the plan all along was just to have more shutdowns.

[Cocaine]

Exactly this isn't an inner circle thing. Most virologist have said it's exponential growth and well social distancing and mask help stop the growth. So unless people are required to wear mask it will keep growing. At this point when new cases double again we will be at 1000 (or 800) a day. Whether that's in 5 days or 10 days who knows maybe now we can do things to stop it from getting to 2000 a day sometime next month. At this point we should just listen to health departments and virologist.

If you think Fauci is paid off or its fake then check the Ministry of Health of Singapore or the Department of Health of Hong Kong. Considering both of these places use English as an official language, are democratic (semi democratic in one instance) and both have a strong rule of law then people can't say it's a conspiracy, lies or a hoax. For a state like Oklahoma it should be easy to lower infections considering people don't take public transportion, don't live cramped high rise apartments and population density is low. Wear a damn mask.

[dankrutka]

Let it surge and burn itself out. Can’t delay the inevitable spread forever.

The elevator isn’t working. Might as well jump out the window.

[soonerguru]

I just posted what the mayor said, I would assume he has good stats. If you go to his twitter link he has graphs to go along with it. Any errors are his not mine

I love the mayor, and I’m grateful we have him instead of Bynum (yeesh), but he vacillates between sharing OKC stats and OKC Metro stats, so I really don’t know what to make of his comments today. I do think he will take action at some point, without the support of Bynum, and he will be under tremendous pressure from his party elders and the Covidiots in our midst. We need to hold him accountable but we also need to support him.

[soonerguru]

Look which state is winning the Covid race! Great job, Oklahoma!

[chuck5815]

The elevator isn’t working. Might as well jump out the window.

Right, but the window in question is on the 1st Floor.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

[gopokes88]

Exactly this isn't an inner circle thing. Most virologist have said it's exponential growth and well social distancing and mask help stop the growth. So unless people are required to wear mask it will keep growing. At this point when new cases double again we will be at 1000 (or 800) a day. Whether that's in 5 days or 10 days who knows maybe now we can do things to stop it from getting to 2000 a day sometime next month. At this point we should just listen to health departments and virologist.

If you think Fauci is paid off or its fake then check the Ministry of Health of Singapore or the Department of Health of Hong Kong. Considering both of these places use English as an official language, are democratic (semi democratic in one instance) and both have a strong rule of law then people can't say it's a conspiracy, lies or a hoax. For a state like Oklahoma it should be easy to lower infections considering people don't take public transportion, don't live cramped high rise apartments and population density is low. Wear a damn mask.

Nah. I’ll go with the Swedes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=VEjJXJjm

[Ginkasa]

Nah. I’ll go with the Swedes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=VEjJXJjm

From your article:

But Sweden now has one of the world’s highest Covid-19 mortality rates, with more deaths per 100,000 than the U.S., according to Johns Hopkins University data.

[PoliSciGuy]

Nah. I’ll go with the Swedes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=VEjJXJjm

Oh yeah let's do the Swedish option, which has more deaths per capita than any other developed country on earth and is still nowhere close to herd immunity: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/t...WE~DNK~NOR~FIN

[gopokes88]

From your article:

Yep. Sucks. But it’s picking between a rock and a hard place.

The cost of lockdowns: mental health, domestic violence, increased drug abuse, and the economic toll they take > the death of people who are already over the average age.

[Rover]

We have a new slogan for some: “No Lives Matter ..... if It means I have to wear a mask”.

[emtefury]

Yep. Sucks. But it’s picking between a rock and a hard place.

The cost of lockdowns: mental health, domestic violence, increased drug abuse, and the economic toll they take > the death of people who are already over the average age.

Agree with your statement. Economy is not just about money and wealth. Peoples’ mental well-being also has a large part in overall health and this risk could be equal or greater than COVID as you noted above.

[gopokes88]

Agree with your statement. Economy is not just about money and wealth. Peoples’ mental well-being also has a large part in overall health and this risk could be equal or greater than COVID as you noted above.

A large chunk of the BLM protests are about access to education and jobs. Lockdowns literally massively disrupt both.

It maybe sit at home and wait it out for some, for others it’s stuck in a broken elevator and so to fix it we set the building on fire.