Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Ohwiseone]

Kinda hoped the past two days of 200+ cases was a sign that they were starting to plateau at least.

I hope they start going down soon.

[jerrywall]

I am watching the numbers daily for Edmond and Okc, Definitely going up Today 99active cases in Edmond. 6-13 39 active. Almost triple in 11 days.

Out of curiosity, how did you find the active cases for Edmond? I can find the total cases, the deaths, and recovered by I can't find anything else.

[Pete]

You have to compare same days of the week, due to the reporting flow.

And on that basis, things look particularly bad.

Last Wed we only had 259 new cases which was a new record at the time; this week 482.

It was Thursday right through the weekend when the numbers really started to take off. If that happens again this week, we are going to have out-right panic.

[Ohwiseone]

Well I was all 4 just wearing a mask but now we need to shut things back down. what are we waiting on over 500 positives a day. Hell let's see if we can hit 1000 positives in a day? SHUT IT DOWN

They are not going to do a complete shutdown again.

The Texas gov. is literally telling people to stay home, and isn't closing down things again.

Holt might have roll back some stuff but Stitt won't go back to what is was in March.

[oklip955]

Jerry, I took the total number and subtracted deaths and "cured" to get my numbers. Maybe not real acurate but its the data that is up on the Okla health dept site. I am just trying to get an idea of day to day increases. That is the day that I decided to write it down to keep track. I just seeing the huge uptick so plan on going out a lot less. I am going back to watching church services on Youtube and doing as much curbside pickup as possible. I am not good on doing the interet ordering thing. I am too far out for instacart or other delivery stuff if I even knew how to do that. I am calling stores and giving them my order and then calling them when I am in their parking lot and I pay by credit card. maybe they don't like it but that is how I am doing some stuff. I try to grocery shop early but not able to alot of days. Grocery s are only 10% or less of what I need. I live on an acreage and always seem to need something to fix something. At least lows's and home depot have the curb side with the number to call. I get there and order what I need on the phone.

[Libbymin]

Anecdotally, I feel like I've heard of more people that I either know of or know personally that have tested positive. One works in a hair salon, one in a gym, and one is a girl who got it through her sister in law.

Going to Whole Foods, it seems like people are decent about wearing masks but not as good as they should be, considering they offer you freaking masks at the store before you go inside and yet some people still choose not to.

I don't see us going to a shutdown anytime soon in large part because people are already so worn out by all of this and there's been so much pushback from people now. Mayor Holt said he didn't want to do a mandatory mask order but I feel like we have to at least do that because this thing isn't going to slow down on its own if people are choosing to go out to bars, restaurants, gyms, hair salons, and church without wearing masks and staying away from each other.

[soonerguru]

I am genuinely worried about Oklahoma and the other states like Texas and Florida that are seeing these spikes.

This is the middle of the time of year where everyone is outside and of course most are still being pretty cautious.

If this momentum continues into the fall and winter, we could be headed for a full-on catastrophe.

That is what my doctor is expecting.

[oklip955]

pete one of the problems I am seeing or I should say hearing is that people just don't believe the numbers. A number of people have told me that they think they are inflated and not true. If a lot of people are thinking the same way, we could be hiting 1500 cases a day they will still be in denial. Only if it hits them personally or a close friend or family member will they believe it. I am afraid we are in deep do do on this. I am trying as much as I can to stay at home, go when I think there are less people and try to avoid being around other people. Being runover or I should say plowed into by two ladies in Sam's club because I could not move out of their way fast sough with me bad knee. I think we are in trouble.

[soonerguru]

Anecdotally, I feel like I've heard of more people that I either know of or know personally that have tested positive. One works in a hair salon, one in a gym, and one is a girl who got it through her sister in law.

Going to Whole Foods, it seems like people are decent about wearing masks but not as good as they should be, considering they offer you freaking masks at the store before you go inside and yet some people still choose not to.

I don't see us going to a shutdown anytime soon in large part because people are already so worn out by all of this and there's been so much pushback from people now. Mayor Holt said he didn't want to do a mandatory mask order but I feel like we have to at least do that because this thing isn't going to slow down on its own if people are choosing to go out to bars, restaurants, gyms, hair salons, and church without wearing masks and staying away from each other.

My wife was informed yesterday that her hairdresser tested positive. She had gotten a hair cut there a week ago Saturday. She is getting tested today and was told it would be three to five days before she gets results.

The hairdresser didn't really want to go back to work, but once Stitt "opened" the salons and massage parlors in late April, she no longer qualified for unemployment and had to return to work or starve to death. She was very careful, wore a mask, sanitized everything; my wife wore a mask. Alas, she got Covid 19. She went to get tested at the onset of symptoms.

My opinion is that the state forced the hair and nail salons open because they didn't want to pay them unemployment.

[Jersey Boss]

Obviously those with authority do not have the interests of a healthy state as a priority. To just throw your hands in the air and say face mask requirement are unenforceable. How do other American cities enforce it? More cops? How is no shirts, no shoes, enforced?
Leadership lacking. As an aside I hold the Governor more to account than mayors. He grabbed the authority with SB 1102.

[Pete]

As an affluent country with great resources, this graph is completely embarrassing... Especially when you consider the population of the EU exceeds that of the U.S. by over 100 million.

And of course, the trend has only become much worse in the 3 days since the graph was last updated:

[catcherinthewry]

Any talk of shutting down is overreacting. For all of the recent increases OK is still 42 in reported cases per 100k. That being said, I would like us to go back to Stage 2 of the reopening and make masks mandatory even if it wouldn't be enforceable. I think it would raise awareness and lead more people to wear masks.
It would help if our leaders would provide a good example. Looking at you, Stitt and Inhofe.

[Rover]

Kinda hoped the past two days of 200+ cases was a sign that they were starting to plateau at least.

I hope they start going down soon.

Plateau? Unfortunately, I don't think you've seen anything near how bad it can be. Hospitals and ICU's are starting to fear what's likely to come in Oklahoma.

Hope and pray I'm wrong, but I think we will see the price of denial. Unfortunately, that price will be the lives of many of our dear loved ones. If you speak to anyone in NYC that went through the last few months you will suddenly realize how unpolitical it is and how it is the farthest thing from a personal freedom issue. Us Okies often learn the hard way and late.

[Libbymin]

My wife was informed yesterday that her hairdresser tested positive. She had gotten a hair cut there a week ago Saturday. She is getting tested today and was told it would be three to five days before she gets results.

The hairdresser didn't really want to go back to work, but once Stitt "opened" the salons and massage parlors in late April, she no longer qualified for unemployment and had to return to work or starve to death. She was very careful, wore a mask, sanitized everything; my wife wore a mask. Alas, she got Covid 19. She went to get tested at the onset of symptoms.

My opinion is that the state forced the hair and nail salons open because they didn't want to pay them unemployment.

I know of someone else who got a call from their hairdresser over a week ago saying they had it so she and her husband had to go get tested as well. They tested negative thankfully.

[jerrywall]

Obviously those with authority do not have the interests of a healthy state as a priority. To just throw your hands in the air and say face mask requirement are unenforceable. How do other American cities enforce it? More cops? How is no shirts, no shoes, enforced?
Leadership lacking. As an aside I hold the Governor more to account than mayors. He grabbed the authority with SB 1102.

Wouldn't it be more say he was handed the authority by an overwhelming (and veto proof I believe) vote by the legislature?

[Libbymin]

I agree with the idea of doing a mandatory mask order even if they don't strictly enforce it. At the very least, it would encourage more people to wear a mask even if there's a percentage of people who still refuse to do it.

[oklip955]

Stores can make it mandatory for shoppers (like Costco) no mask, no entry. Cities can make it mandatory by spot checks of stores. Not enforcing it then you are closed or fined. I am not talking one person in a huge store that takes it off but like 50% of people not wearing one and social distancing. I talked to a friend in Penn. he reported 2 people who refused to social distance in a store and the manager told them to leave.

[Jersey Boss]

Wouldn't it be more say he was handed the authority by an overwhelming (and veto proof I believe) vote by the legislature?

House vote was 53-44, neither overwhelming or veto proof. Governor could of vetoed, he wanted the authority.

[Pete]

I lived in California when they enacted the first no-smoking laws in bars and restaurants.

There was a long lead-in time after the measure passed and before it was to be implemented. And tons of people said it could never be enforced and after all, we are dealing with centuries of history and a group of addicts.

And yet, when Jan 1st rolled around, people just complied. Very, very few incidents of having to fine people or establishments. And the business actually went UP in bars and restaurants; most other states followed suit and even entire countries where smoking in public places was much more culturally entrenched, like Ireland and France.


And not coincidentally, Oklahoma still has not passed a similar law or allowed local municipalities to enforce their own non-smoking ordinances because the lobbying groups and aligned politicians have managed to keep forwarding the idea that it won't work and that business will suffer, no matter this has already been resolved in a very positive way almost everywhere else.

And here we are again with the mask issue, with the same approach and results.

[dankrutka]

From https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung:

I am guessing this is the tweet you were trying to send: https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/st...439436290?s=20

Daily #COVID19 update via the Oklahoma State Department of Heath:

🚨
I sound like a broken record, but another record-breaking day.

- 11,510 cases (+482)
- 372 deaths (+1)
- 268 Hospitalizations (as of 6/23)
- 4.1% positive rate (as of 6/23)

7-day average:

[jerrywall]

House vote was 53-44, neither overwhelming or veto proof. Governor could of vetoed, he wanted the authority.

Ah, I misremembered. My point remains. This power was handed to him by the legislature. (And to be clear, this isn't a defense of Stitt, it's a statement of the folks responsible for that bill.)

EDIT: Actually, it doesn't look like I remembered it completely wrong. This is neither here nor there though and I don't want to derail the thread too much.

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf...1102_VOTES.HTM

[soonerguru]

I agree with the idea of doing a mandatory mask order even if they don't strictly enforce it. At the very least, it would encourage more people to wear a mask even if there's a percentage of people who still refuse to do it.

If I were Holt, I would let the businesses know that another shutdown is on the horizon if they don't immediately implement strong protocols including mask-wearing in their stores. I know that is tough to do in restaurants but all restaurant staff should wear masks, minimally, and perhaps we should just go back to outside, curbside and delivery. Okies just can't follow rules.

I have a large client group that interacts with the public and had their employees wearing masks. As soon as the governor "opened up" on May 1, they stopped wearing masks and taking any further precautions. Again, leadership matters.

[dankrutka]

I lived in California when they enacted the first no-smoking laws in bars and restaurants.

There was a long lead-in time after the measure passed and before it was to be implemented. And tons of people said it could never be enforced and after all, we are dealing with centuries of history and a group of addicts.

And yet, when Jan 1st rolled around, people just complied. Very, very few incidents of having to fine people or establishments. And the business actually went UP in bars and restaurants; most other states followed suit and even entire countries where smoking in public places was much more culturally entrenched, like Ireland and France.


And not coincidentally, Oklahoma still has not passed a similar law or allowed local municipalities to enforce their own non-smoking ordinances because the lobbying groups and aligned politicians have managed to keep forwarding the idea that it won't work and that business will suffer, no matter this has already been resolved in a very positive way almost everywhere else.

And here we are again with the mask issue, with the same approach and results.

I live in Denton, Texas and we instituted a no smoking law just a few years ago... lot of complaining leading up to it and then *crickets*. I have heard or seen no problems with compliance. Yes, laws work and the state should have a mask ordinance for all businesses and public places (unless physical distancing can be maintained outside).

[TheTravellers]

House vote was 53-44, neither overwhelming or veto proof. Governor could of vetoed, he wanted the authority.

My Senator was excused for that vote, and my Representative voted Nay.

[Pete]

Sometimes you need laws to change social behavior.

The same thing happened in California when they banned using cell phones while driving. Almost instantly it stopped.

And over time, the same thing can be said about wearing seatbelts. Growing up, almost no one wore them and now it's a very rare thing to ever see someone not using a belt.