Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

This stupid virus gets weirder and weirder. Integris Baptist has spent 20 million on being ready for a surge and has treated zero COVID cases according to KFOR. I’m a believer that it’s real but I can see stories like this fueling the “It’s all a big scam” theory.

[dankrutka]

This stupid virus gets weirder and weirder. Integris Baptist has spent 20 million on being ready for a surge and has treated zero COVID cases according to KFOR. I’m a believer that it’s real but I can see stories like this fueling the “It’s all a big scam” theory.

I would say the over 100,000 people who have died in the U.S. over the last few months would be enough to not even repeat a conspiracy theory.

[Cocaine]

100,000 doesn't matter if it did then people would wear a mask instead of saying "everybody's gotta go sometime." Or saying I dont believe its real or its a scam some people are stuck in the denial stage. I also agree that memorial day and the protest contributed to this spike.

But I just dont understand how anyone could think its not a terrible idea to have a trump rally with 20,000 people (most of whom wont wear a mask). Why doesnt the city of Tulsa just shut this down or say we cant have a meeting with 20,000 people. Maybe people will get it if College Football season is cancelled.

[PhiAlpha]

This stupid virus gets weirder and weirder. Integris Baptist has spent 20 million on being ready for a surge and has treated zero COVID cases according to KFOR. I’m a believer that it’s real but I can see stories like this fueling the “It’s all a big scam” theory.

OU has spent even more and they have treated a few...but not near what the funding would indicate that they’ve prepared for....and their staff had to take a 15% pay cut across the board.

[PhiAlpha]

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Some important context from the Mayor. 55% of cases this month are from those under 35. As well as only 2 deaths in the last 22 days.

There’s currently only 13 people in Oklahoma County hospitals being treated for COVID.

I was going to post this. Good info.

[LocoAko]

Anyone that thinks such an order would work go to mayor Holt’s FB page and read the comments replying to him just suggesting that everyone should wear a mask when in public.

So is the conclusion that Oklahomans are just a particularly stupid and/or stubborn bunch? Because other places in the U.S. (anecdotally) have near 100% mask compliance. Friends back home on the East Coast were shocked when I told them most people here aren't wearing masks. That'd be the only conclusion to be left with if we really believe a mandate wouldn't at least help somewhat...

[LocoAko]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/u...vVpEwJ4x4F7eNE

“It’s the perfect storm of potential over-the-top disease transmission,” said Bruce Dart, the executive director of the Tulsa health department. “It’s a perfect storm that we can’t afford to have.” . . .

“Like any other public health official, I’m a little angry,” Mr. Dart said about the rally. “Frankly, I’m afraid for a lot of people. It hurts my heart that we know this is a possibility and we’re doing it anyway. It’s like seeing the train wreck coming.”

“There’s just nothing good about this, and particularly in an enclosed arena,” said Karen Keith, a Tulsa County commissioner who oversees the area where the rally is supposed to take place. “I don’t want people to lose a parent. I don’t want them to lose a grandma. I don’t want them to lose a family member over this.”

[runOKC]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/u...vVpEwJ4x4F7eNE

How close do we have to get to Saturday before the logistics train is going too fast to cancel the rally? My gut feeling is they will cancel as pressure mounts from health officials, but that’s just a guess.

[Bill Robertson]

So is the conclusion that Oklahomans are just a particularly stupid and/or stubborn bunch? Because other places in the U.S. (anecdotally) have near 100% mask compliance. Friends back home on the East Coast were shocked when I told them most people here aren't wearing masks. That'd be the only conclusion to be left with if we really believe a mandate wouldn't at least help somewhat...

I think stubborn to the point of becoming stupid. Another part of the issue is personal experience of many people. I’ve had conversations with a few groups of people, co-workers and such, the past month. No one I’ve talked to has had, knows anyone that has had or knows anyone that knows anyone that has knowingly had the virus. So it just doesn’t hit home with them that it can be that serious.

[Bill Robertson]

How close do we have to get to Saturday before the logistics train is going too fast to cancel the rally? My gut feeling is they will cancel as pressure mounts from health officials, but that’s just a guess.

I would think that at this point the time spent planning for Secret Service and all the other things that come into play for a Presidential visit would really tick off the administration if local authorities tried to cancel. And good or bad local authorities don’t want to tick off an administration.

[FighttheGoodFight]

I would think that at this point the time spent planning for Secret Service and all the other things that come into play for a Presidential visit would really tick off the administration if local authorities tried to cancel. And good or bad local authorities don’t want to tick off an administration.

I would give it a zero percent chance of being cancelled. Stitt won't let that happen.

Trump coming here is a huge deal for the GOP in the state.

[Pete]

Another record today in terms of new positive cases: 259

That's 1,699 new cases in the last 9 days.

[LocoAko]

Yikes....

[kukblue1]

I got beat up pretty bad by some people on this forum for suggesting that we would have 200 cases one day hell this point we might hit 300

[Libbymin]

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavi...again/2389265/

So much for the "let's all just get out there and get COVID so we can all get this over with" argument.

[jerrywall]

I got beat up pretty bad by some people on this forum for suggesting that we would have 200 cases one day hell this point we might hit 300

To be fair, you'd have a good future as an Oklahoma weatherman. If you predict rain every day, it doesn't make you a meteorologist when it finally rains.

[Bunty]

But I just dont understand how anyone could think its not a terrible idea to have a trump rally with 20,000 people (most of whom wont wear a mask). Why doesnt the city of Tulsa just shut this down or say we cant have a meeting with 20,000 people. Maybe people will get it if College Football season is cancelled.

It's simply because the Tulsa mayor is a Republican rather than a Democrat. Look on the bright side. If Trump can pull off the rally without the aftermath being a public health disaster, then we could possibly look forward to concert halls, arenas and stadiums being reopened and filled by this fall after taking the same precautions the rally will be doing.. But the ones going to the rally are like guinea pigs, hopefully cooperative ones. The Oklahoma Health Dept. advises everyone going to have recent negative test. Everybody should wear masks that will be provided, even though it may not look good on TV. Of course things could backfire, such as both Trump and Pence getting the virus. Interesting how they have such a low regard for the virus that both will be there.

[Bill Robertson]

It's simply because the Tulsa mayor is a Republican rather than a Democrat. Look on the bright side. If Trump can pull off the rally without the aftermath being a public health disaster, then we could possibly look forward to concert halls, arenas and stadiums being reopened and filled by this fall after taking the same precautions the rally will be doing.. But the ones going to the rally are like guinea pigs, hopefully cooperative ones. The Oklahoma Health Dept. advises everyone going to have recent negative test. Everybody should wear masks that will be provided, even though it may not look good on TV. Of course things could backfire, such as both Trump and Pence getting the virus. Interesting how they have such a low regard for the virus that both will be there.

Didn’t it used to be policy that the POTUS and VP never traveled together in case something bad happened.

[soonerguru]

So is the conclusion that Oklahomans are just a particularly stupid and/or stubborn bunch? Because other places in the U.S. (anecdotally) have near 100% mask compliance. Friends back home on the East Coast were shocked when I told them most people here aren't wearing masks. That'd be the only conclusion to be left with if we really believe a mandate wouldn't at least help somewhat...

Okies are no match for an invisible enemy.

[AP]

Yikes....

This is not good.

[soonerguru]

I was going to post this. Good info.

Holt was questioned on that by someone who had literally checked their family member into an OKC hospital the day before. Also some people questioned why he only included OK County in his discussion when previously he included Canadian and Cleveland.

Regardless, at least he is addressing the topic, and genuinely seems tp care about our health, unlike that phony Bynum.

[soonerguru]

Yikes....

The Tulsa County Health Department guy said yesterday that we have transitioned from isolated outbreaks to community spread. He also said hospitalizations lag behind for up to two weeks so I think we can predict what is happening. Our new cases have risen 100% in a week and a half. Not much you can do to paper over that.

The stupid will get it. Some will die. Many stupid people will spread it to people doing their best to take precautions, and just as bad, people who have no choice to encounter these Covidiots because of their jobs.

[ChrisHayes]

It should come as common sense that unless there's a vaccine, Covid-19 is here to stay. The only way to have stopped it would have been in Wuhan. Once it got out, it was over with. The only other way to stop it would be to lock everyone in the world up in their houses and let it take it's toll there. Thankfully that's not going to happen. This thing is global. It will continue to spread until it attacks everyone who it can, and then it will slowly dissipate.

[emtefury]

Are we forgetting the point of the flatten the curve and the shutdown? The purpose was to not overwhelm the hospitals back in March/April by slowing the spread. The same amount of people projected to get the virus was the same with the flattened curve and the bell curve.

Of course there is going to be a rise in cases. This is model was based on the CDC back in March. The curve rises as it goes to be right after the shutdown Was over and the hospitals were supposed to be not overwhelmed. The hospitals are still not overwhelmed.

I am sure I will get flamed in here that I want everyone to die. We are moving the goal posts from the purpose of flattening the curve.

https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/we...w-can-you-help

[ChrisHayes]

Are we forgetting the point of the flatten the curve and the shutdown? The purpose was to not overwhelm the hospitals back in March/April by slowing the spread. The same amount of people projected to get the virus was the same with the flattened curve and the bell curve.

Of course there is going to be a rise in cases. This is model was based on the CDC back in March. The curve rises as it goes to be right after the shutdown Was over and the hospitals were supposed to be not overwhelmed. The hospitals are still not overwhelmed.

I am sure I will get flamed in here that I want everyone to die. We are moving the goal posts from the purpose of flattening the curve.

https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/we...w-can-you-help

Exactly! Flattening the curve was to not overwhelm the hospitals. If you think you can shut down the country and the world for that matter, for long enough so that this goes away, you're in a fantasy world. By the time you open back up, there won't be a 21st century civilization left. Unfortunately, C19 is something we just have to deal with until it runs it's course.