Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[kukblue1]

228 more cases and 4 deaths.

Not gonna lie, if these numbers don't go down soon..

Well, I would say do another lockdown.. but I do not think that is going to happen so I guess we just gotta get through it.

Another lockdown will never happen we can't even get people to wear masks what makes you think we're going to get people to stay home again. I'm glad everybody thought this was over 2-3 weeks ago smh

[soonerguru]

The hospitalizations will jump in the next week or two, then the deaths will go up a week or two after that. Certain politicians want to pretend this isn’t even happening. My doctor told me today that late summer into fall and winter is going to be catastrophic in Oklahoma. He also said state and national leadership has abandoned all pretense of listening to science and health experts. We are being gaslit by our own government. We are on our own now.

We could have reopened responsibly by requiring masks and social distancing, but Holt and Bynum just totally folded on that.

So basically we screwed the economy but did such a hasty, half-arse job of reopening that we also didn’t reduce the spread of the virus either.

[Pete]

New positive cases over the last 8 days:

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[Ohwiseone]

The hospitalizations will jump in the next week or two, then the deaths will go up a week or two after that. Certain politicians want to pretend this isn’t even happening. My doctor told me today that late summer into fall and winter is going to be catastrophic in Oklahoma. He also said state and national leadership has abandoned all pretense of listening to science and health experts. We are being gaslit by our own government. We are on our own now.

We could have reopened responsibly by requiring masks and social distancing, but Holt and Bynum just totally folded on that.

So basically we screwed the economy but did such a hasty, half-arse job of reopening that we also didn’t reduce the spread of the virus either.

I have been supportive of Holt through much of the Pandemic, and the Protest stuff, but him punting on the Mask thing was not a smart decision.

[mkjeeves]

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/

[David]

What a great time for a large, indoor, political rally. Shared air conditioning, close quarters, should go well.

[G.Walker]

Yes, these new numbers are not good. People got too comfortable again, I hardly see people wearing masks anymore, everything is opening back up. Fauci warned that opening too early will initiate another spike. Everyone thought with the warmer weather the cases would go down this summer, but it looks like its getting worse, SMH. Hopefully this is just a opening impact spike and the active cases will go down in July. If not, I don't see how schools can open back up, and I dare to say no football games? lol

[PhiAlpha]

The hospitalizations will jump in the next week or two, then the deaths will go up a week or two after that. Certain politicians want to pretend this isn’t even happening. My doctor told me today that late summer into fall and winter is going to be catastrophic in Oklahoma. He also said state and national leadership has abandoned all pretense of listening to science and health experts. We are being gaslit by our own government. We are on our own now.

We could have reopened responsibly by requiring masks and social distancing, but Holt and Bynum just totally folded on that.

So basically we screwed the economy but did such a hasty, half-arse job of reopening that we also didn’t reduce the spread of the virus either.

Why don't we take a step back and see what happens instead of instinctively panicking and assuming the world's going to end? The goal was to slow the spread and give the hospital system time to prepare and increase capacity...not stop the virus entirely. We were successful in both of those goals. It was a given that the number of new cases was going to rise when testing increased and the economy opened back up. I think we will all be fine even if hospitalizations increase. We aren't going to see a massive spike in deaths if the hospitals aren't overwhelmed and at this point there is no reason to think they will be. The lack of mask wearing, etc is a little disconcerting but I guess time will tell how much difference it actually makes. Frankly the actual number of cases has always been a moving target and hasn't ever been that indicative of anything. Hospitalizations and deaths are the ones that really matter.

Similar to the conversation with you're doctor...my experience is also anecdotal, but I have several doctor friends between here, Boston, NYC, Tulsa, and Dallas. 3 of them have had the virus and the rest of been treating patients with it for the last three months. For the ones that had it, it wasn't any worse than the flu and in most cases was much milder. They've all said the serious cases are certainly scary but those are the minority and the risk is pretty mild for the majority of society. While they certainly don't want to see more cases, all are cautiously optimistic that, as a whole, the risk is relatively low and they aren't overly concerned about it anymore. Obviously that doesn't speak for every doctor or nurse everywhere but they are fully supportive of getting on with our lives. They've said that their hospitals are ready for a surge and are at such low capacity that they're concerned about their jobs in the nearterm.

I know I've probably come off as a total ass over the last few months but I'm really not trying to here. Just a lot of gloom and doom going around again and I don't necessarily think it's warranted yet.

At any rate, I spent the weekend in Fort Worth at a rescheduled wedding of over 150 people so I'll report back if that test case yielded any positives. Definitely am limiting my interactions with folks who are at greater risk over the next week or two.

[kukblue1]

I just can't get on board with the we open things too soon spin. Cases didn't jump at all after May 1st. I can get on board with saying people are no longer practicing social distancing or wearing mask. I'm also on board with Memorial day weekend and protest. Am I the only one that watch these protest and saw the same microphone being used over and over again without it being cleaned? Even with mask on when others around you are screaming and yelling it not a good thing. Other countries are seeing an increase in cases also. Maybe there has been another mutation that spreads easily but isn't as deadly. That is my hope at least.

[soonerguru]

Why don't we take a step back and see what happens instead of instinctively panicking and assuming the world's going to end? The goal was to slow the spread and give the hospital system time to prepare and increase capacity...not stop the virus entirely. We were successful in both of those goals. It was a given that the number of new cases was going to rise when testing increased and the economy opened back up. I think we will all be fine even if hospitalizations increase. We aren't going to see a massive spike in deaths if the hospitals aren't overwhelmed and at this point there is no reason to think they will be. The lack of mask wearing, etc is a little disconcerting but I guess time will tell how much difference it actually makes. Frankly the actual number of cases has always been a moving target and hasn't ever been that indicative of anything. Hospitalizations and deaths are the ones that really matter.

Similar to the conversation with you're doctor...my experience is also anecdotal, but I have several doctor friends between here, Boston, NYC, Tulsa, and Dallas. 3 of them have had the virus and the rest of been treating patients with it for the last three months. For the ones that had it, it wasn't any worse than the flu and in most cases was much milder. They've all said the serious cases are certainly scary but those are the minority and the risk is pretty mild for the majority of society. While they certainly don't want to see more cases, all are cautiously optimistic that, as a whole, the risk is relatively low and they aren't overly concerned about it anymore. Obviously that doesn't speak for every doctor or nurse everywhere but they are fully supportive of getting on with our lives. They've said that their hospitals are ready for a surge and are at such low capacity that they're concerned about their jobs in the nearterm.

I know I've probably come off as a total ass over the last few months but I'm really not trying to here. Just a lot of gloom and doom going around again and I don't necessarily think it's warranted yet.

At any rate, I spent the weekend in Fort Worth at a rescheduled wedding of over 150 people so I'll report back if that test case yielded any positives. Definitely am limiting my interactions with folks who are at greater risk over the next week or two.

First of all, I'm trying not to take what you are saying personally. Secondly, and I hope this is clear, I was very pleasantly surprised by the decline in new cases throughout May. I am not too proud to admit when I'm wrong (unlike Jim Traber, who makes the same claim that we know is bogus).

I'm fine with taking a step back but we are seeing the highest numbers yet, coupled with people just not giving a **** about doing the basic things to keep this in check.

On top of that, the governor has basically just moved on to other things, we are not getting national or state or even local health briefings.

I assure you my doctor is extremely connected throughout the state to all hospitals, and he is now the second physician who said things are not looking good for the fall.

Like you, I really don't want to lose my job or face another shutdown. So what you call "gloom and doom" others may view as realism. I see posts (not from you) from people saying things like: "Well this spike is young people and they won't get sick so our hospitalization rates won't go up." WTF? Just made up out of thin air. This is what I would call wishful thinking. False hope during a pandemic doesn't seem like a plan.

I see people repeating as fact that "testing is up so numbers are up," even when I have read that we are testing fewer people than we did in May. No, testing has been down the last two weeks as new cases have spiked.

Similarly, the fact hospitalizations have only gone up a bit doesn't seem to indicate they won't go up. It is a realistic expectation that hospitalizations typically occur on days 8-10 of the onset of symptoms.

Also, it stands to reason that if hospitalizations go up, so will deaths. We have quite a bit of experience with this virus locally and throughout the world now so we can safely predict what is likely to occur.

I appreciate the fact that you take responsible precautions when in public. I wish more of our fellow citizens did.

Also, if you see evidence that this spike is only temporary and everything will. be back to normal by July, August or September, feel free to share it because I would love to read it.

[brian72]

If we shut down again, it won’t matter about the virus. Country will be in full panic over no cash flow.

[Jersey Boss]

It would be helpful in gauging the situation if the feds would quit asking governors to parrot the federal government and their less than fact based assesments.

[David]

Please wear masks when you go out, folks.

[jn1780]

I just can't get on board with the we open things too soon spin. Cases didn't jump at all after May 1st. I can get on board with saying people are no longer practicing social distancing or wearing mask. I'm also on board with Memorial day weekend and protest. Am I the only one that watch these protest and saw the same microphone being used over and over again without it being cleaned? Even with mask on when others around you are screaming and yelling it not a good thing. Other countries are seeing an increase in cases also. Maybe there has been another mutation that spreads easily but isn't as deadly. That is my hope at least.

It was always going to be "too early" until a vaccine or until the virus runs it course. Beside little mask wearing, there is fecal/oral transmission because people are getting lazy about washing their hands again. But people don't want to think about touching something that someone touched after wiping their but so you don't hear about that mode of transmission much on tv.

[oklip955]

/Those who say the spike is just young folk, well if they are sick and go out and about they will infect older people too. I am trying not to go out much but have to get some things. Ie when you lawn equipment breaks and you are mowing 10 ac, you cannot hire having you lawn done for $500 a week when you are on a fixed income. Back to wear a mask and social distance, if only to keep us older people safe.

[Bunty]

But Pence claims coronavirus cases in Oklahoma are on the decline. The number of cases in Oklahoma has declined precipitously, he said. I don't wish them as much as death from it, but both Pence and Trump need to come down with the virus to face first hand what the reality of the situation is like. Interesting how both Pence and Trump are both risking the rally.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/polit...ers/index.html

[Edmond Hausfrau]

It was always going to be "too early" until a vaccine or until the virus runs it course. Beside little mask wearing, there is fecal/oral transmission because people are getting lazy about washing their hands again. But people don't want to think about touching something that someone touched after wiping their but so you don't hear about that mode of transmission much on tv.

Not to be overly nerdy, but the reason for hand washing with Covid is contact with contaminated surfaces.
While there is report of virus RNA present in the feces, I am not aware of any confirmation of a fecal transmission human case.
Hepatitis A is fecal-oral transmission, which is why you always wash your hands after using the bathroom, even when there is not a coronavirus pandemic.

[soonerguru]

But Pence claims coronavirus cases in Oklahoma are on the decline. The number of cases in Oklahoma has declined precipitously, he said. I don't wish them as much as death from it, but both Pence and Trump need to come down with the virus to face first hand what the reality of the situation is like. Interesting how both Pence and Trump are both risking the rally.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/polit...ers/index.html

Part of me wonders if Trump has already had it. Would he tell us if he had? Doubtful.

[kukblue1]

Do most business now have sneeze guards in place. I don't head out much. I know 7-11 just installed them. Home depot. I know Braums don't but Braums hasn't done really anything to protect it's workers.

[OKC Guy]

Do most business now have sneeze guards in place. I don't head out much. I know 7-11 just installed them. Home depot. I know Braums don't but Braums hasn't done really anything to protect it's workers.

Some of them are useless. Crest installed them but they are directly in front of register. However the debit machine and mini counter is to the right of the guard and thats where everyone stands waiting for final tally. So its really not effective in reality.

[OKC_Chipper]

Some important context from the Mayor. 55% of cases this month are from those under 35. As well as only 2 deaths in the last 22 days.

There’s currently only 13 people in Oklahoma County hospitals being treated for COVID.

[Bill Robertson]

Some of them are useless. Crest installed them but they are directly in front of register. However the debit machine and mini counter is to the right of the guard and thats where everyone stands waiting for final tally. So its really not effective in reality.

Either Homeland, Crest, Walmart Neighborhood Market weekly, Home Depot and 7-Eleven and Sean’s Spirits a couple of times are the only places I’ve been in since early March. The plastic guards everywhere are pterodactyl useless. Either they’re in the wrong places or people talk around them. Pretty much no employees are wearing masks anywhere now but Crest and Homeland. And they’re lax above how they wear them. Every trip out I’m more glad that way before this virus I bought a bunch of N95 masks. They’re the really dorky duckbill type but I really don’t give a #%$& what I look like. The masks and lots of hand sanitizer are my constant friends.

[Bill Robertson]

I see people repeating as fact that "testing is up so numbers are up," even when I have read that we are testing fewer people than we did in May. No, testing has been down the last two weeks as new cases have spiked.

To this one point. In most of May days with high new cases were the same days with high reported test results. So mathematically it was true that positives followed the same track as test results and I was one that pointed this out often. The past week to ten days have thrown that correlation out the window. Some of the lowest test results per day reported since March and record new cases by a large margin.

[chuck5815]

I have been supportive of Holt through much of the Pandemic, and the Protest stuff, but him punting on the Mask thing was not a smart decision.

I think Holt knows a mask rule would be completely unenforceable in a city like OKC. It would last about as long as Stillwater's attempt did.

He's not an idiot.

[Bill Robertson]

I think Holt knows a mask rule would be completely unenforceable in a city like OKC. It would last about as long as Stillwater's attempt did.

He's not an idiot.

Anyone that thinks such an order would work go to mayor Holt’s FB page and read the comments replying to him just suggesting that everyone should wear a mask when in public.