Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[C_M_25]

Who here is familiar with the differences between a local maximum vs a global maximum in trend analysyis. Yep, we claim victory of flattening the curve, but that’s looking like a local maximum and we haven’t seen the worst of it.

Also found this chart interesting. It’s showing the percentage positive tests by day. This normalizes out the bias you get when you start increasing test numbers. It’s been steadily going down. However, it flattened out mid May and has started going back up. It’s subtle, but if you zoom in, you can see it (blue curve)

[d-usa]

So we are now getting results back in 24 hours? How many test can we process now in a day?

It depends on the lab. This is with us using DLO, and We are no longer sending to the state so I don’t know what the turnaround is for public testing sites. We are collecting 200-300 samples daily right now and are having a good turnaround right now. Our population is not representative of what is happening in OKC though, even though large swings in our testing impacts the numbers for OKC.

I know the state was called out last week for not counting cases per guidelines, because we are not counting provable cases or non-lab confirmed cases (aka, rapid tests).

[soonerguru]

I wonder how bad it will have to get before people take minor precautions such as masks and appropriate distance? We could have a thriving healthy economy if we did this.

Or maybe just showing everybody how tough & free we are will get us Through it.

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.

[Thomas Vu]

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.

Minor sidebar: can we get rid of the phrase "Avoid like the plague" since we're not avoiding it?

[soonerguru]

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.

I wonder what the hospitals look like and what new projections might show for them if this continues?

I have a friend at OU medical who sounded the alarm Monday about hospitalization. I really wish the mayor would call a press conference with other officials to warn residents that if they don’t start wearing masks and distancing now we are facing the prospect of another shelter in place order. We know Stitt won’t do anything (he can’t be bothered to wear a mask nor can his wife), so it is up to city and county officials to provide leadership in a vacuum. I am also disgusted by the inaction of way too many locally owned (and national) businesses to exert leadership and enforce safety protocols that are at worst a minor inconvenience.

[jonny d]

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.

I really wish people would quit saying this. Until hospitals start saying they are overcrowded, things will stay open, for the most part.

Edit: I have friends at multiple hospitals saying they are not at a high risk of overcrowding. I would be curious to know the ages of those testing positive now. I would bet most are younger.

[soonerguru]

And then I looked and the mayor had already posted a message to social media. Here is a graph for the OKC METRO he released. This is very concerning, but I am glad he is paying attention and not hosting a giant political rally in an enclosed building next week, as Mayor Bynum is welcoming to his city.

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[Bill Robertson]

I really wish people would quit saying this. Until hospitals start saying they are overcrowded, things will stay open, for the most part.

Edit: I have friends at multiple hospitals saying they are not at a high risk of overcrowding. I would be curious to know the ages of those testing positive now. I would bet most are younger.

I have an employee that has a second job at a hospital. She says they are very slow with almost no COVID patients and no one wanting to do anything unless life threatening as far as any surgeries etc. The weekly epidemiology reports for the past month show hospitalizations dropping from 190 to around 150. Deaths are lower also. I’m becoming more and more convinced that new case numbers might not be all that important. However, I still don’t go anywhere without a mask and as I read on Facebook “I wash and sanitize my hands so much I clean the toilet when I pee”.

[chuck5815]

Definitely starting to get a nice Protester spike in the Charts -- both nationally and locally.

I always figured that protesting during a pandemic was a bad idea. And the wide majority of Protesters were wearing masks.

Imagine That.

[ctchandler]

I always figured that protesting during a pandemic was a bad idea. And the wide majority of Protesters were wearing masks.

Imagine That.

Chuck,
That's great that a wide majority wore masks, the problem is, If there are fifty people with masks and one without and the one without has the virus, he potentially infects everyone he comes close to. Assuming of course that he coughs, sneezes et al. Yesterday I went to an OnCue with my mask to protect others and when I was next in line to check out some jerk walked past the striped line and we were "cheek to cheek" as he couldn't wait. I should have said something but riding on a mobility scooter, it wouldn't have been smart. By the way, he didn't wear a mask, so he put my health in danger. But, still pleased that most of the protesters wore masks, it's kind of like chicken soup, it can't hurt.
C. T.

[kukblue1]

I have an employee that has a second job at a hospital. She says they are very slow with almost no COVID patients and no one wanting to do anything unless life threatening as far as any surgeries etc. The weekly epidemiology reports for the past month show hospitalizations dropping from 190 to around 150. Deaths are lower also. I’m becoming more and more convinced that new case numbers might not be all that important. However, I still don’t go anywhere without a mask and as I read on Facebook “I wash and sanitize my hands so much I clean the toilet when I pee”.

I might be totally off base with this opinion but I really do think that spike in cases it's from the protester and it's that 18-35 group that is really getting it
That's when the spike and the numbers is coming from however those are also the age group that don't get really sick and won't need hospitalization so why the numbers may be going up hospitalizations may not go up I just hope they don't go out and give it to the order population

[Pete]

158 new cases today.

[oklip955]

I'm wondering how high next weeks numbers are going to be. As an older person, time to go back to staying at home. When needing something in town, time to do the curb side pickup. Most of what I need is not groceries, that is easy to stock up on for a few weeks. Its just the stuff to fix what breaks around my place, which means trips to Lowe's, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, mower parts places etc. I was able to do parking lot pick up at my local John Deer dealer the other day. Small businesses even if they don't advertise curbside, will most of the time do curb side pick up.

[kukblue1]

https://www.koco.com/article/two-hai...wG9Xr7G12FW5A# IF EVERYONE AND i MEAN EVERYONE wore a mask for a good 3 weeks we could get the numbers really low.

[Bill Robertson]

https://www.koco.com/article/two-hai...wG9Xr7G12FW5A# IF EVERYONE AND i MEAN EVERYONE wore a mask for a good 3 weeks we could get the numbers really low.

I agree that if everyone wore masks everywhere in public this thing would go away much faster. But putting a time estimate on how long has proven time and time again to not be workable. It could be for months. The places that truly locked down had to do so for weeks. I for one am going to keep wearing a mask anytime I go into anywhere for the foreseeable future. I don’t want to get this virus.

[soonerguru]

Definitely starting to get a nice Protester spike in the Charts -- both nationally and locally.

I always figured that protesting during a pandemic was a bad idea. And the wide majority of Protesters were wearing masks.

Imagine That.

There is no evidence to back up this claim, and in Tulsa, the county health department specifically said Tulsa’s spike was not related to the protests there.

[FighttheGoodFight]

I agree that if everyone wore masks everywhere in public this thing would go away much faster. But putting a time estimate on how long has proven time and time again to not be workable. It could be for months. The places that truly locked down had to do so for weeks. I for one am going to keep wearing a mask anytime I go into anywhere for the foreseeable future. I don’t want to get this virus.

Remember. The mask is to protect others from getting it from you if you are pre-symptomatic.

I think mask wearing is long gone now. Just anecdotally I have seen far far fewer people wear masks now.

[Bill Robertson]

Remember. The mask is to protect others from getting it from you if you are pre-symptomatic.

I think mask wearing is long gone now. Just anecdotally I have seen far far fewer people wear masks now.

I have a stash of N95 masks so they should be giving me some protection. I also stay as far away from everyone as possible and go shopping first thing in the morning so not many or are out yet.

[Mott]

In addition, new research from scientists at Cambridge and Greenwich Universities suggests "population-wide use of facemasks could effectively control the coronavirus pandemic by substantially reducing the chances that an infected wearer will pass along his viruses to another person," writes Reason's Ron Bailey.

Co-leader of the study Richard Stutt, of Cambridge, said "our analyses support the immediate and universal adoption of face masks by the public." Widescale mask adoption could let places reopen even in the absence of a COVID-19 vaccine, he said.

Stutt's study, published in Proceedings of the Royal Society A, modeled a series of different conditions to determine which set of behaviors would lower COVID-19's R number below 1. (The R number indicates the average number of people a sick person will themselves infect. If each sick person infects fewer than one other person, the virus begins to die off.) Stutt's model suggests that when 50 percent or more of a population adopts face mask-wearing in public, R number will fall below 1.0.
https://reason.com/2020/06/11/the-go...g-about-masks/

[chuck5815]

There is no evidence to back up this claim, and in Tulsa, the county health department specifically said Tulsa’s spike was not related to the protests there.

Sure there is. It just doesn't fit your narrative.

[kukblue1]

Sure there is. It just doesn't fit your narrative.

You nailed it. No you like channels like CNN MSNBC or pretty much all of them are going to say the spike is do to protest. Heck no it's do to opening back up even though most thing were open by mid May. I will say that part of it is people just don't care any more but even now I'm see tons of people on the street marching no mask. SMH

[dankrutka]

I support the protests because they are fighting another and long-standing public health risk (let's avoid arguing about that here and stick to COVID-19), but there is no question they'll lead to additional spread of COVID-19. It helps that protests were outdoors and many protestors made efforts at mask wearing and physical distancing... but there also was a lot of close crowds and people without/removing masks. One source I follow, if I remember right, estimated something like a 3-6% increase in cases due to protests. People who don't wear masks indoors or when close outdoors are similarly responsible for spread. And, really, an indoor rally is a super spreading event waiting to happen.

[kukblue1]

I support the protests because they are fighting another and long-standing public health risk (let's avoid arguing about that here and stick to COVID-19), but there is no question they'll lead to additional spread of COVID-19. It helps that protests were outdoors and many protestors made efforts at mask wearing and physical distancing... but there also was a lot of close crowds and people without/removing masks. One source I follow, if I remember right, estimated something like a 3-6% increase in cases due to protests. People who don't wear masks indoors or when close outdoors are similarly responsible for spread. And, really, an indoor rally is a super spreading event waiting to happen.

Did you see some of the large gatherings today that were happening. I guess we are quickly on our way to herd immunity at this rate.

[dankrutka]

Did you see some of the large gatherings today that were happening. I guess we are quickly on our way to herd immunity at this rate.

Huh? There have been protests everyday. We are not at all anywhere near—or on our way—to herd immunity. What are you talking about?

[Thomas Vu]

I believe sarcasm was at play. It'd be hard to believe that it would be purely the protests that led to the spike(s).