Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

KOKC just reported a spike in numbers for Covid? What am i really missing here? I do see that cases are on an upward trend for the OKC metro area not sure I would call it a "spike". Increase yes spike not really. Anyone have more info?

Typical news sensationalism?

[FighttheGoodFight]

27 of the 55 new cases were from one nursing home in Hugo. I think we will see that more and more. We do need to protect those as much as possible.

[Bill Robertson]

27 of the 55 new cases were from one nursing home in Hugo. I think we will see that more and more. We do need to protect those as much as possible.

Agreed. My mom is in a south side OKC nursing home. I want to see her but I’m absolutely willing to not see her in the effort to keep everyone there safe.

[mugofbeer]

Agreed. My mom is in a south side OKC nursing home. I want to see her but I’m absolutely willing to not see her in the effort to keep everyone there safe.

I'm sorry for your situation. My mom died in a nursing home a few months before COVID and it would have hurt a lot to not be able to see her at all.

[Cocaine]

The only thing I don't get is that some people were talking about fire Fauci and how bad he was. Trump even promoted this stuff (but maybe he knows he shouldn't). But Fauci has always been level headed and science based (except for lying about mask at the begining). But Fauci is right when he says there will be outbreaks from these BLM protest just like there are some new cases from Memorial Day.


Maybe people will have to start dressing up like this during protest. It's pretty damn hot but I've seen people dressed up like this protesting in incredibly humid and fairly hot weather in hong kong for the past year. Granted it came to a hault in January once Covid hit. But no matter what Covid isn't over though.

[floyd the barber]

27 of the 55 new cases were from one nursing home in Hugo. I think we will see that more and more. We do need to protect those as much as possible.

Intriguing.

I know it cannot be proven, but I would bet money that a majority of cases are asymptomatic. There seems to be a lot of cases in nursing homes. I think maybe this is due to visitors eith no symptoms.

[dankrutka]

So I did a little research on the CNBC story that asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus and—as you’d expect—that’s not the case. Here’s an expert explaining: https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/sta...838784512?s=20

Read the whole thread, but here’s the most relevant tweets:

The details get a bit tangled and to my dismay not all data are made available, but in short the @WHO statement pertains to "truly asymptomatic" people who never show classic symptoms, not to pre-symptomatic people who we know can transmit days before showing symptoms.

Even if truly asymptomatic spread is very rare, pre-symptomatic transmission is likely to be important.

We still need to wear masks and distance to avoid spreading the virus during this period, probably concentrated in days 3-6 after infection.

[jonny d]

So I did a little research on the CNBC story that asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus and—as you’d expect—that’s not the case. Here’s an expert explaining: https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/sta...838784512?s=20

Read the whole thread, but here’s the most relevant tweets:

Wait, so we shouldn't believe the WHO anymore? I thought we should always trust them, and the CDC, and they were nothing but honest throughout this whole pandemic?

[FighttheGoodFight]

Wait, so we shouldn't believe the WHO anymore? I thought we should always trust them, and the CDC, and they were nothing but honest throughout this whole pandemic?

I dont think that is what he said. The WHO report looks like it doesn't do a good job explaining true asymptomatic versus pre-symptomatic people. That being said of course WHO and the CDC didn't get everything right. It is a new virus and the science changes daily. We don't even have a good treatment for this yet.

[TheTravellers]

... But Fauci has always been level headed and science based (except for lying about mask at the begining). ...

"lying"???? Do you realize how science works? You get a hypothesis, you test it, it might or might not work, if it doesn't, you test it again with modified parameters, etc. He wasn't "lying", he was working off the best information they had at the time and once that hypothesis hit a dead end, they modified it.

[LocoAko]

Wait, so we shouldn't believe the WHO anymore? I thought we should always trust them, and the CDC, and they were nothing but honest throughout this whole pandemic?

Your sarcasm aside, it was a statement that meant something clinical to scientists and was misrepresented in the way it was reported by a lot of outlets (so yes, was admittedly careless). They're holding a press conference this morning to clarify. This was an example of poor scientific communication, but that doesn't mean they are useless or inaccurate.

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1270348830958063618

@ASlavitt
BREAKING: WHO clarifies that they estimate 16% of people are asymptomatic and can transmit the virus.

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1270349431825666052

@ASlavitt
BIG NEWS: WHO says 40% of transmissions may be through asymptomatic people per models.

[Bill Robertson]

I'm sorry for your situation. My mom died in a nursing home a few months before COVID and it would have hurt a lot to not be able to see her at all.

She has been going downhill mentally and physically for awhile. So it wouldn’t amaze me if she goes before we can get to see her again. I hope not. Especially for my sisters. It would be really be hard on them.

[Pete]

Daily increases reported today (all big numbers):

Positives: 158
Hospitalized: 22
Deaths: 5

[kukblue1]

Daily increases reported today (all big numbers):

Positives: 158
Hospitalized: 22
Deaths: 5

They'll be some sort of excuse like it came from one town or Correctional Facility or something JS. Covid is here to stay.

[jdizzle]

Daily increases reported today (all big numbers):

Positives: 158
Hospitalized: 22
Deaths: 5

Meh. These were from 2 weeks ago. That is the problem with OK's system. It is behind. But, as long as hospitals are handling things, there will be no changes coming.

[jdizzle]

They'll be some sort of excuse like it came from one town or Correctional Facility or something JS. Covid is here to stay.

These are from Memorial Day. These are mostly not from this weekend. And again, as long as hospitals are adequately able to handle things, why shut things down again?

[OkiePoke]

A friend took a 24-48 hour test on 6/2. They got the results back today 6/9. They said they were informing the positives first. But that isn't to say the Health Department didn't know the results before today.

[PoliSciGuy]

Daily increases reported today (all big numbers):

Positives: 158
Hospitalized: 22
Deaths: 5

Worth noting that this is the result of *almost 13,000* tests. So the numbers are big, but the positivity rate is below 2%, which is still pretty solid. This latest dump shows that our biggest issue isn't a resurgent outbreak but rather how long it takes us to process all these tests.

[soonerguru]

These are from Memorial Day. These are mostly not from this weekend. And again, as long as hospitals are adequately able to handle things, why shut things down again?

Who is advocating shutting things down again? It would be helpful to avoid making hyperbolic generalizations like that.

I think most people, myself included, are pleasantly surprised that we have not had an outbreak, particularly how carelessly so many people are about observing the most basic of social distancing.

Regarding the WHO, that is the kind of miscommunication that will linger, even after they attempted to clean it up. Certain news outlets and people with specific agendas will keep that statement alive and churning through the psyches of Americans, telling them: Don't worry. You'll be good. This is the kind of self-validation people are seeking because it tells them they can just go about life pretending the danger is gone, and they shouldn't even have to bother to wear a face covering.

[mkjeeves]

Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.

I may have to cut my own from here on out.

[catch22]

Up here in CO (at least wear I live in El Paso county) it's required for anyone in any service role (customer-facing) to wear one. Checkout clerk, barber, waiter, hostess, etc. Businesses can be fined for non-compliance of employees. "Required" but not enforced for patrons.

Interesting to see the differences from state to state. At this point, it seems like use will continue to decline, so at some point (whether you like it or not) you will just have to accept that people aren't going to wear one any longer.

[jerrywall]

Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.

I may have to cut my own from here on out.

If you're willing to drive to Edmond near UCO, I might recommend who I use (she does straight razor head shaves and beard trimming, in addition to hair cuts.)

Amber Gardner - https://www.styleseat.com/m/v/cutitoutbarbershop

It's a single chair in an enclosed room. I park, go in, and directly to her "booth", which again is a room with a sliding door, and I never see or have to get around anyone but her. She's not as cheap as going to one of the chain places, but she is very good (at least with Men's cuts). I've referred a few friends and they've all been happy. She's fairly responsive and receptive to any concerns if you call her in advance.

[dankrutka]

Wait, so we shouldn't believe the WHO anymore? I thought we should always trust them, and the CDC, and they were nothing but honest throughout this whole pandemic?

Quite the strawman argument here. Both are good and important sources, but they’ve been (a) really bad at messaging (this a lot of people misinterpreting their statements due to science illiteracy) and (b) have been slow to update statements. One of the first lessons of media literacy is that source credibility is important, but so is corroborating evidence. The WHO has already released a clarification about the asymptomatic claim. The error was both their fault (poor messaging) and that of news orgs and citizens (science illiteracy).

[catcherinthewry]

Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.

I may have to cut my own from here on out.

I went to my barber last week for the first time in 3 months. Neither she, nor any of her customers were wearing masks. I walked out. Went to SportsClips and every stylist and most customers were wearing masks. Not my favorite place, but at least they care about their customers.

[Bill Robertson]

Worth noting that this is the result of *almost 13,000* tests. So the numbers are big, but the positivity rate is below 2%, which is still pretty solid. This latest dump shows that our biggest issue isn't a resurgent outbreak but rather how long it takes us to process all these tests.

Way too slow for whatever reasons. Also, the 5 deaths occurred between April 5 and June 7. April? I wonder if other states are similar. I bet they are.