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  1. #2651

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    The numbers reported for today include the results for the tests we did May 12th (I know because I was contacted by the health department about the numbers and the reporting today). That is a 10 day delay between the day of testing, and the day of reporting.

  2. #2652

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny d View Post
    To be fair, by then you are either on the upswing or dead. Not much else is left after 14 days in a hospital, yet not actually in the hospital after the 14th day.
    You are not very familiar with the clinical course of this disease.

  3. #2653

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    You are not very familiar with the clinical course of this disease.
    To be fair to myself, there are only 2 outcomes to the virus.

  4. #2654

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    That would be very wrong...

  5. #2655

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieHornet View Post
    From an Oklahoman article yesterday:
    Gov. Kevin Stitt on Wednesday said he’s going to let Oklahomans decide whether they should wear a face mask in public during the COVID-19 pandemic. “To me, that’s a personal preference,” he said.
    If you feel safer in a mask, then we definitely encourage you to do that. If you can remain social(ly) distance(d), we don’t think you necessarily need to have a mask, but that’s a personal preference.”
    https://oklahoman.com/article/566281...nal-preference
    The Governor doesn't get it. Masks are primarily about protecting other people, not yourself. How hard is this?

  6. #2656

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    The Governor doesn't get it. Masks are primarily about protecting other people, not yourself. How hard is this?
    Yeah, "personal preference" shouldn't really ever enter into mask-wearing during a pandemic....

    Edit to add: now that the science shows it's beneficial for everybody (because at the beginning, I wasn't sure about general population mask-wearing effectiveness, but now that there's more data, I believe in doing it now).

  7. #2657

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    How many people die in Oklahoma on average in a day pre-pandemic? Just curious.

    I thought this was an interesting article: Putting the Risk of Covid-19 in Perspective

    A useful way to understand risks is by comparing them with what is called a “micromort,” which measures a one-in-a-million chance of dying. Note that we are considering only fatality risks here, not the risk of growing sick from coronavirus, or morbidity. The micromort allows one to easily compare the risk of dying from skydiving, for example (7 micromorts per jump), or going under general anesthesia in the United States (5 micromorts), to that of giving birth in the United States (210 micromorts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    The Governor doesn't get it. Masks are primarily about protecting other people, not yourself. How hard is this?
    Apparently not as hard as keeping political posts in the political forum.

  9. #2659

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    The numbers reported for today include the results for the tests we did May 12th (I know because I was contacted by the health department about the numbers and the reporting today). That is a 10 day delay between the day of testing, and the day of reporting.
    Great so may 2, 3, 4th people go sick. Then 5-7 days to show symptoms then few days to get tested then 10 days to get results. So day 21 and 22 we should see numbers go up Oh Wait. they have. NOT GOOD. I'm afraid there is going to be a 200 day in our future. I hope not but wouldn't be shocked

  10. #2660

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    If you don't want to get out then Don't. I have to work and make money. I wear the mask when I'm in grocery stores and Walmart, but I need to keep the lights on.

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    Now that the EOR has posted there is something to compare to. Yes the 169 was a new record. But there were over 7000 test results completed. Also a new record. By almost a thousand. If you went back to April 22 and applied the ratio of test results to positive results that occurred on that day then we would have had 359 new cases today. You have to look at the ratio not the raw number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian72 View Post
    If you don't want to get out then Don't. I have to work and make money. I wear the mask when I'm in grocery stores and Walmart, but I need to keep the lights on.
    I’m not. As much as I’m DYING to go out and sit at one of my favorite hangouts to eat and have a beer with my friends we’re parked at home except for work, groceries which I’ve been doing and curb-side pickup of dinner a couple times a week. I wear a mask anytime I go in anywhere and I luckily have a stash of N95 masks that work bought during the Ebola thing. I’ve modified ten so they go over the ear instead of around the head. I rotate them so I use each one every ten days or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    Now that the EOR has posted there is something to compare to. Yes the 169 was a new record. But there were over 7000 test results completed. Also a new record. By almost a thousand. If you went back to April 22 and applied the ratio of test results to positive results that occurred on that day then we would have had 359 new cases today. You have to look at the ratio not the raw number.
    And again, back then most tests were conducted on people most likely to be positive, the increased testing includes surveillance tests, contact tests, and people who just ask to be tested. You cannot simply compare testing numbers when the population being tested has changed significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny d View Post
    To be fair, by then you are either on the upswing or dead. Not much else is left after 14 days in a hospital, yet not actually in the hospital after the 14th day.
    This is not fair. My friend had this for like five weeks, and she still has lingering symptoms. She was very healthy with no underlying health conditions, and she has just accepted the fact this illness may have a permanent impact on her health. She still has vision problems in her left eye (brought on by COVID-19), and she still loses her breath after climbing one flight of stairs. She is "recovered," but she is also not dead.

    Whatever you think about this illness, it is absolutely worse.

  15. #2665

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    Yeah there have been people who were in the hospital for 40 days and finally recovered or succombed after 30 or 40 days.

    @soonerguru 5 weeks of hell in all honesty. There are no words that can explain just how serious this is and how it just breaks your body down. Hope your friend feels better.

    https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...nal-report.pdf

    Using available preliminary data, the median time from onset to clinical recovery for mild
    cases is approximately 2 weeks and is 3-6 weeks for patients with severe or critical disease.
    Preliminary data suggests that the time period from onset to the development of severe
    disease, including hypoxia, is 1 week. Among patients who have died, the time from
    symptom onset to outcome ranges from 2-8 weeks.
    So much for two weeks in the hospital according to this is 3 to 6 weeks so if it's more severe and your in the hospital right now then maybe you will get out in near the end of June or even in to july. The people who sadly wont make it will go home to the lord mid June to mid July. Things like this will make people realize how we are willingly playing with fire. Well more like pouring gasoline on the fire when the firefighters are halfway through fighting it.

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  17. #2667

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    The weekly epidemiology report is now up for the previous weeks.
    Provides a bit of guidance of the massive jumps in positive cases.
    http://https://coronavirus.health.ok...epi_report.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    The Governor doesn't get it. Masks are primarily about protecting other people, not yourself. How hard is this?
    Still, I will continue to wear a mask in places like Wal-Mart, because I think it's better protection for myself than nothing. Since I have no idea, if I'm positive, likely not, I don't know if I'm protecting others. To you, though, the situation is like a gun laying on a table. Always assume it's loaded. I can't argue with that.

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    From the weekly epidemiology report, it sounds like a good chunk of this week’s uptick in cases is due to a rapid expansion of testing in Guymon and an outbreak at a jail in Lawton. Overall positivity rate for the week was 2%, a significant decrease overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliSciGuy View Post
    From the weekly epidemiology report, it sounds like a good chunk of this week’s uptick in cases is due to a rapid expansion of testing in Guymon and an outbreak at a jail in Lawton. Overall positivity rate for the week was 2%, a significant decrease overall.
    is there a place we can visit that tells us the number of new cases in each county? I of course have seen the map of total cases. I just thought it would be of interest to me to follow the trajectory in Oklahoma, Canadian, Cleveland and Logan counties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliSciGuy View Post
    From the weekly epidemiology report, it sounds like a good chunk of this week’s uptick in cases is due to a rapid expansion of testing in Guymon and an outbreak at a jail in Lawton. Overall positivity rate for the week was 2%, a significant decrease overall.
    OKC jail has no cases. Zero.
    Dr. Cooper with the jail health group attributes it to " the Lord" but I'm wondering what other factors are at play, since the Lord should also exist in Lawton.

  22. #2672

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    Still, I will continue to wear a mask in places like Wal-Mart, because I think it's better protection for myself than nothing. Since I have no idea, if I'm positive, likely not, I don't know if I'm protecting others. To you, though, the situation is like a gun laying on a table. Always assume it's loaded. I can't argue with that.
    The mask doesn't help you 1 bit. It can help protect those around you. If you are the only person in a place wearing a mask, you are not helping yourself with the masks most are wearing now. They don't filter stuff coming in, but can filter stuff going out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny d View Post
    The mask doesn't help you 1 bit. It can help protect those around you. If you are the only person in a place wearing a mask, you are not helping yourself with the masks most are wearing now. They don't filter stuff coming in, but can filter stuff going out.
    To make a definitive statement that they do nothing is just not accurate. They definitely aren't N95 but many DIY materials do something. According to the tests on this site many materials do at least something. And two layers of dishcloth actually do pretty well.
    https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/...y-masks-virus/

  24. #2674

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny d View Post
    The mask doesn't help you 1 bit. It can help protect those around you. If you are the only person in a place wearing a mask, you are not helping yourself with the masks most are wearing now. They don't filter stuff coming in, but can filter stuff going out.
    I disagree. You'll find conflicting advice on whether wearing a mask to avoid the virus does any good. I prefer to opt on the side that they're better than nothing. But common sense tells me if a mask, like a double layered cloth one, can't stop virus from filtering through, then how the heck is it going to stop virus from going out? Anyway, if I'm going to gamble with my health when going to the store, I'm going to wear a mask along with social distancing.

    Wearing goggles or other eye protection would be further better. A doctor wearing a mask on a crowded plane thought he would not have caught the virus had he used eye protection. Small crowded places are best avoided without full protection.

    Tests need to be easier to get and more frequently done per person.

  25. #2675

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    Special Report: In Oklahoma pork-packing town, COVID stirs fear, faith and sorrow - Reuters
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22Z0SK

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