Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[OKC Guy]

To offer another point of view this article is written by someone a whole lot smarter than me. I looked and could not find any political affiliation associated with either him or the article. He lists 13 reference studies. The main takeaway is this is one of many and each individual person needs to decide for themselves what to believe or not. No one is right or wrong.

The one thing I like about his article he goes into the “why” a mask can be actually harmful. In detail. He talks about there being no studies to prove Covid is stopped by masks. He says masks have never stopped other viruses.

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A clip:

As for the scientific support for the use of face mask, a recent careful examination of the literature, in which 17 of the best studies were analyzed, concluded that, “ None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”1 Keep in mind, no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus. Any recommendations, therefore, have to be based on studies of influenza virus transmission. And, as you have seen, there is no conclusive evidence of their efficiency in controlling flu virus transmission.

The recommendations by the CDC and the WHO are not based on any studies of this virus and have never been used to contain any other virus pandemic or epidemic in history.

The importance of these findings is that a drop in oxygen levels (hypoxia) is associated with an impairment in immunity. Studies have shown that hypoxia can inhibit the type of main immune cells used to fight viral infections called the CD4+ T-lymphocyte. This occurs because the hypoxia increases the level of a compound called hypoxia inducible factor-1 (HIF-1), which inhibits T-lymphocytes and stimulates a powerful immune inhibitor cell called the Tregs. . This sets the stage for contracting any infection, including COVID-19 and making the consequences of that infection much graver. In essence, your mask may very well put you at an increased risk of infections and if so, having a much worse outcome.5,6,7

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Again, this is one doctor out of thousands. You will find many differences of opinion. Its best to get and read as many as possible to form your own decision and not rely on just one. The other point is its not settled science and doctors are not even decided.

https://www.technocracy.news/blayloc...o-the-healthy/

His bio:

Dr. Russell Blaylock, author of The Blaylock Wellness Report newsletter, is a nationally recognized board-certified neurosurgeon, health practitioner, author, and lecturer. He attended the Louisiana State University School of Medicine and completed his internship and neurological residency at the Medical University of South Carolina. For 26 years, practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from his neurosurgical duties to devote his full attention to nutritional research. Dr. Blaylock has authored four

[soonerguru]

There are literally people who have commented on this forum thread whose lives are endangered by people not wearing a mask. It is truly sad. Being a contrarian when the overwhelming body of science and medicine declares otherwise seems indifferent to the needs of others.

[OKC Guy]

And again, that majority, regardless of the reasoning, simply doesn’t care about others and that’s the saddest thing about what our society has become.

But you make an assumption they don’t care. Perhaps some feel a mask can trap and enhance ones chances of catching it? Unless a person stops every non wearer and asks they can’t therefore assume their reasons. Not everyone reads the same information.

[Bunty]

Surveillance testing we have conducted has consistently shown that the vast majority of positive cases have zero symptoms.

But I hope the majority don't stay symptom free. Otherwise, you'll never know you're a carrier while positive.

[catcherinthewry]

There are literally people who have commented on this forum thread whose lives are endangered by people not wearing a mask. It is truly sad. Being a contrarian when the overwhelming body of science and medicine declares otherwise seems indifferent to the needs of others.

And it's not like people are being asked to storm the beaches at Normandy. They are being asked to wear a mask at the grocery store.

[Bill Robertson]

Looking back at my last number of posts I can’t believe how serious I’ve become about the world. The night of the cancelled Thunder game I was talking to a guy about buying his Mini-Sprint car, parts and trailer. I was going to try dirt track racing again at 61 yrs old with two man-made hips. Yes, insane, I know. Now I’m infatuated with discussing data points and whether or not wearing a mask is the right thing to do. This whole situation is crazy.

[12 Piece Bucket]

https://factcheck.afp.com/misleading...id-19-pandemic

[TheTravellers]

Looking back at my last number of posts I can’t believe how serious I’ve become about the world. The night of the cancelled Thunder game I was talking to a guy about buying his Mini-Sprint car, parts and trailer. I was going to try dirt track racing again at 61 yrs old with two man-made hips. Yes, insane, I know. Now I’m infatuated with discussing data points and whether or not wearing a mask is the right thing to do. This whole situation is crazy.

At least you'd be safe from the virus out on the track while racing, though.

[Bill Robertson]

At least you'd be safe from the virus out on the track while racing, though.

Yeah. I’m still actually thinking about it once this crap is over with. I wouldn’t be competitive but I don’t think I’d embarrass myself either.

[Buffalo Bill]

To offer another point of view this article is written by someone a whole lot smarter than me. I looked and could not find any political affiliation associated with either him or the article. He lists 13 reference studies. The main takeaway is this is one of many and each individual person needs to decide for themselves what to believe or not. No one is right or wrong.

The one thing I like about his article he goes into the “why” a mask can be actually harmful. In detail. He talks about there being no studies to prove Covid is stopped by masks. He says masks have never stopped other viruses.

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A clip:

As for the scientific support for the use of face mask, a recent careful examination of the literature, in which 17 of the best studies were analyzed, concluded that, “ None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”1 Keep in mind, no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus. Any recommendations, therefore, have to be based on studies of influenza virus transmission. And, as you have seen, there is no conclusive evidence of their efficiency in controlling flu virus transmission.

The recommendations by the CDC and the WHO are not based on any studies of this virus and have never been used to contain any other virus pandemic or epidemic in history.

The importance of these findings is that a drop in oxygen levels (hypoxia) is associated with an impairment in immunity. Studies have shown that hypoxia can inhibit the type of main immune cells used to fight viral infections called the CD4+ T-lymphocyte. This occurs because the hypoxia increases the level of a compound called hypoxia inducible factor-1 (HIF-1), which inhibits T-lymphocytes and stimulates a powerful immune inhibitor cell called the Tregs. . This sets the stage for contracting any infection, including COVID-19 and making the consequences of that infection much graver. In essence, your mask may very well put you at an increased risk of infections and if so, having a much worse outcome.5,6,7

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Again, this is one doctor out of thousands. You will find many differences of opinion. Its best to get and read as many as possible to form your own decision and not rely on just one. The other point is its not settled science and doctors are not even decided.

https://www.technocracy.news/blayloc...o-the-healthy/

His bio:

Dr. Russell Blaylock, author of The Blaylock Wellness Report newsletter, is a nationally recognized board-certified neurosurgeon, health practitioner, author, and lecturer. He attended the Louisiana State University School of Medicine and completed his internship and neurological residency at the Medical University of South Carolina. For 26 years, practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from his neurosurgical duties to devote his full attention to nutritional research. Dr. Blaylock has authored four

Dr. Blaylock - chem trail conspiracy nut job.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...mmune-neuroses

[Mott]

Would you rather have someone sneeze in your face, or turn and cover their mouth?

[jccouger]

Why does the majority of the population keep getting brought up. Is this a vote? Is this a competition?

Why is the whole "loss of freedoms" thing so overblown? Do you feel any time you are told/asked to do something its time to go to war like we are fighting for our freedoms against Nazi Germany? I just don’t get it.

Yes, its slightly annoying to have to put on a mask and they are uncomfortable but its nearly conclusive that masks help prevent the spread. Yes, I know you can dig up a plethora of articles From the dark corners of the internet that will help feed your appetite for being “right” to argue this point.

If it happens to be proven that masks don’t stop the spread, oh well. At least I can say I tried to help others.

Remember to love your neighbors as yourself. Or you can keep being a freedom fighter that generations will look back in great admiration in history books.

[gamecock]

SOME government leaders that YOU chose to follow.

There are very many who wear masks and have different opinions but you don't agree with their politics so you disregard that.

And of course apolitical scientists who know more about this than anyone are almost unanimous on this issue.

It's fair to challenge those who disregard the advice and clear direction from scientists and merely follow the lead of politicians they agreed with long before this transpired, because that has nothing to do with logic.

The part that I don't understand is that presumably these politicians want to "open up the economy" and return to normal. But I would be far more likely to eat out, shop, stay in a hotel, and so forth if I know others will be wearing masks. The CDC story yesterday suggests that it is a lot harder to get infected from this thing via surfaces. That means it is being transmitted when we are breathing the same air. Masks aren't perfect, but they do make it harder for those particles and droplets to travel.

[David]

Why does the majority of the population keep getting brought up. Is this a vote? Is this a competition?

It's a pretend majority at that. All serious polling shows overwhelming support for measures such as wearing masks to help contain the pandemic.

[Ronnie Jackson]

Why does the majority of the population keep getting brought up. Is this a vote? Is this a competition?

Why is the whole "loss of freedoms" thing so overblown? Do you feel any time you are told/asked to do something its time to go to war like we are fighting for our freedoms against Nazi Germany? I just don’t get it.

Yes, its slightly annoying to have to put on a mask and they are uncomfortable but its nearly inconclusive that masks help prevent the spread. Yes, I know you can dig up a plethora of articles From the dark corners of the internet that will help feed your appetite for being “right” to argue this point.

If it happens to be proven that masks don’t stop the spread, oh well. At least I can say I tried to help others.

Remember to love your neighbors as yourself. Or you can keep being a freedom fighter that generations will look back in great admiration in history books.

I’d probably move somewhere like Minnesota (or Norman) if I wanted my politicians to tell me what to do.

And, for the record, I’ve been wearing my stash of ventilated N95s when I go out (not on the golf course, though), but I’m not in the business of forcing other people to take measures that run counter to their closely held beliefs.

[runOKC]

I’d probably move somewhere like Minnesota (or Norman) if I wanted my politicians to tell me what to do.

And, for the record, I’ve been wearing my stash of ventilated N95s when I go out (not on the golf course, though), but I’m not in the business of forcing other people to take measures that run counter to their closely held beliefs.

I keep reading posts like this, and I get it from a personal freedom standpoint. But I’m just curious as to what closely held beliefs cause people to be against wearing a mask. Did they hold these steadfast beliefs on masks 3 months ago? Just trying to figure out what the point of dying on the face mask hill is.

Freedom of religion? Sure. Political beliefs that run deep? I get it. But wearing a mask to potentially slow the spread? That’s what some people are getting passionate about? Not sure I get it.

[soonerguru]

I’d probably move somewhere like Minnesota (or Norman) if I wanted my politicians to tell me what to do.

And, for the record, I’ve been wearing my stash of ventilated N95s when I go out (not on the golf course, though), but I’m not in the business of forcing other people to take measures that run counter to their closely held beliefs.

Nobody is forcing anyone.

[Thomas Vu]

I'm stuck on why people never got upset when businesses had the signs saying "No shoes, no shirts, no service"? Minor extension of that.

[Mott]

Dr. Blaylock - chem trail conspiracy nut job.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...mmune-neuroses

Thanks for the research, a regular on Alex Jones? Maybe if people actually followed the social distancing, masks in public, and washing hands, we could reopen.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Dr. Blaylock - chem trail conspiracy nut job.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...mmune-neuroses

Even back in 2013.
From The Encyclopedia of American Loons
#505 Russell Blaylock

Another good resource:
The Septic’s Dictionary
Entry for Russell Blaylock

”Russell Blaylock is one of the big legends in the most radical quackery and denialist movements, and one of the most influential peddlers of, shall we say, nonconformistic medical advice in the US (indeed, you can hardly enter any quack-related or denialist discussion, regardless of the particular topic, without encountering a reference to Blaylock – he is absolutely everywhere)”

[floyd the barber]

Another 6 dead.

I think it is time to be honest. The US is going after herd immunity. We aren't stopping this this month, the next month or possibly six months from now. Our game plan is to play Russian Roulette.

Stay safe everyone.

[soonerguru]

Another 6 dead.

I think it is time to be honest. The US is going after herd immunity. We aren't stopping this this month, the next month or possibly six months from now. Our game plan is to play Russian Roulette.

Stay safe everyone.

After several months it’s fairly obvious there is no plan.

[Pete]

[kukblue1]

Yes I'm going to be negative Nancy again these numbers just are not good to me. I don't want to hear it's because we're doing more testing or because of some plant the numbers are what they are just as high as a month ago

[Ohwiseone]

True, The numbers are high.

However, Recoveries are higher. Which is a good sign. Hospitalizations also are down below 200.

Deaths are also down.