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  1. #2426

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    Moving dining outside...good as long as weather permits. Taking a streetcar so you can eat outside instead of parking close and eating inside doesn’t make a lot of sense from a distancing stand point. That’s about equivalent exposure, depending.

    Public trans and dining inside...out. For my high risk self for the foreseeable future at least. YMMV

  2. #2427

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    If they are processing more tests, that's to be expected. You focus on one number, that has no real context in this schedule, unfortunately.
    There are more people being tested, yes, but there's also a backlog of tests being processed. How do you know what this notable daily increase in positive tests means? It may be nothing or it could be that the numbers would be even greater if the processing labs were able to keep up with the new specimens.

    Importantly, we do not know, and one of the only things we can look to as a benchmark is daily new positives. The trend over the last five days is not looking good.

  3. #2428

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    Depending on the lab, it also takes a while for samples to be processed. A positive reported today could have been collected 5 days ago. So the numbers are already a look at the past.

  4. #2429

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    Depending on the lab, it also takes a while for samples to be processed. A positive reported today could have been collected 5 days ago. So the numbers are already a look at the past.
    And that is why I think this is an important week to see what the numbers are like. We opened the First. Good couple of days of people being out let's say 5 days. Another 5 Days to show symptoms. Up to 10 days now. Couple days to get test 12 days and 5 days to get results 17 days. If we make it though this week without a big jump i'll be feeling much better about all this

  5. #2430

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    Saw this chart and it seems to show states with longer quarantine have higher rates. At the least its interesting data
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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    Saw this chart and it seems to show states with longer quarantine have higher rates. At the least its interesting data
    I couldn't get it to enlarge where i could read it easily, but it appeared, in general, the states with a shorter quarantine were also less densely populated - which, if true, I think is a bigger factor than the number of days a quarantine lasted.

  7. #2432

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBatesokc View Post
    I couldn't get it to enlarge where i could read it easily, but it appeared, in general, the states with a shorter quarantine were also less densely populated - which, if true, I think is a bigger factor than the number of days a quarantine lasted.
    Those lower rate states have massive cities like in Texas and Georgia. Look at all the big cities in Texas. No data set is perfect and it will take years of study to get best data.

  8. #2433

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    73 new cases
    0 new deaths

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  10. #2435

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    73 new cases
    0 new deaths
    88 new cases
    0 new deaths

    Lets keep this good news going!

    2 days and 0 deaths

  11. #2436

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    Lets hope the Virus is weakening. On a side not how many deaths under 50 in the last few weeks. Seems like the numbers of deaths for the age ranges for under 50 have been the same for a while now.

  12. #2437

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    Lets hope the Virus is weakening. On a side not how many deaths under 50 in the last few weeks. Seems like the numbers of deaths for the age ranges for under 50 have been the same for a while now.
    Here’s a report but it updates weekly and this covers thru 14 May so is most recent.

    Average age of cases (not deaths) is 50

    The average age of individuals who died was 75 years.

    https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/si...epi_report.pdf

    Where pdf data resides (so this is where to get weekly report)

    https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/we...illance-report

  13. #2438

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    Also, reposting this link it shows cases and deaths by zip code for Oklahoma:

    https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/46

  14. #2439

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    I received confirmation today that the reported total only includes lab confirmed positive cases, and that they are not counting positive cases who are diagnosed via the point-of-care rapid testing unless they are are confirmed. I had a lengthy conversation with the epidemiologist today and neither one of us could quite understand why they are doing that. This would mean that our daily total is very much under reported because most places are not gonna to lab confirm positive rapid test results. The sensitivity is pretty good regarding positives, and false positives aren’t really an issue, so there is no point in doing an additional test that runs the risk of a false negative and uses up valuable testing kits (the rapid test uses different supplies than the lab test). Most facilities use the same process that we are using, treat positive rapid tests as positive, and confirm symptomatic negative rapid tests via lab testing.

  15. #2440

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    I received confirmation today that the reported total only includes lab confirmed positive cases, and that they are not counting positive cases who are diagnosed via the point-of-care rapid testing unless they are are confirmed. I had a lengthy conversation with the epidemiologist today and neither one of us could quite understand why they are doing that. This would mean that our daily total is very much under reported because most places are not gonna to lab confirm positive rapid test results. The sensitivity is pretty good regarding positives, and false positives aren’t really an issue, so there is no point in doing an additional test that runs the risk of a false negative and uses up valuable testing kits (the rapid test uses different supplies than the lab test). Most facilities use the same process that we are using, treat positive rapid tests as positive, and confirm symptomatic negative rapid tests via lab testing.
    So are you talking about the Abbot test that gets results in 15 minutes? They are not counting those anymore? Anything to keep the numbers lowers is really the end game in all of this. SMH

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    So are you talking about the Abbot test that gets results in 15 minutes? They are not counting those anymore? Anything to keep the numbers lowers is really the end game in all of this. SMH
    Actually that means the death rate is better. Since deaths won’t change based on this it means the positives show lower thus inflates the death rate. More tests with same death rate means lower death rate.

  17. #2442

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    Actually that means the death rate is better. Since deaths won’t change based on this it means the positives show lower thus inflates the death rate. More tests with same death rate means lower death rate.
    I don't think that "death rate" has been anyone's focus; the total # is the total # and it's alarmingly high no matter.

  18. #2443

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    So are you talking about the Abbot test that gets results in 15 minutes? They are not counting those anymore? Anything to keep the numbers lowers is really the end game in all of this. SMH
    That is the information I was given. We started to use those machines and I was working with my health department contact to determine the process for reporting our positives. I’m hoping that my information is wrong, because that would be a large number uncounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I don't think that "death rate" has been anyone's focus; the total # is the total # and it's alarmingly high no matter.
    Agree, but my point is how they use tests and deaths to determine how high the death rate is. Thats allI was replying to not downplaying deaths. If thats how it comes across I apologize. I was strictly looking at it from data pov. If more tests and same deaths means the percent of who can die is lower. To me thats good news meaning more people have less chance of death if they do catch it. Any decrease in deaths is good news imo.

  20. #2445

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    Lots of people have been using death rate to equate Covid-19 to the flu, so IMO discussions around that are generally meant to minimize the current situation.

  21. #2446

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Lots of people have been using death rate to equate Covid-19 to the flu, so IMO discussions around that are generally meant to minimize the current situation.
    All I did was respond to another poster and explain what higher tests mean in relation to deaths in a positive way. I never mentioned flu in my post at all. Not sure why my posts are being selected to question so I’ll stay out of this topic to not confuse anyone

  22. #2447

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Lots of people have been using death rate to equate Covid-19 to the flu, so IMO discussions around that are generally meant to minimize the current situation.
    I personally think the death rate IS the most important factor. I don't use it to equate Covid-19 to anything. I use it to gauge how seriously I think the pandemic is in general.

  23. #2448

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Lots of people have been using death rate to equate Covid-19 to the flu, so IMO discussions around that are generally meant to minimize the current situation.
    I never been a fan of comparing this to the flu. However when you look at the total of number of deaths for people under the age 50 is it much worse than the flu? I see 10 deaths in what 2 months now. So over a 6 month period we would be 30 deaths. Probably about the same as the flu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    I never been a fan of comparing this to the flu. However when you look at the total of number of deaths for people under the age 50 is it much worse than the flu? I see 10 deaths in what 2 months now. So over a 6 month period we would be 30 deaths. Probably about the same as the flu?
    Are we going to act like people over 50 don't matter. If you're young you're probably going to be OK. As fo Grandma, well she had a good run.

  25. #2450

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    Lets hope the Virus is weakening. On a side not how many deaths under 50 in the last few weeks. Seems like the numbers of deaths for the age ranges for under 50 have been the same for a while now.
    Hopefully this is the case, and we don't get a fall spike. Hospitalizations are down and deaths are down. These are currently falling faster than reported positives which really have stayed around the same trend line for over a month now. So either doctors have better treatment protocols,virus is starting to mutate to a less severe form or summer does matter.

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