Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Cocaine]

The issue is that some people need to find out the hard way. Seeing deaths in Wuhan, Iran, Italy Spain, New York and Harbin are not enough for them. So when OKC gets slammed hard and hospitals are full then they will get it. Mask work it's been known since January and I've been wearing one since February. Basically people will not wear mask until it's required so the Rona gets a chance to spread more. Aint this a great state or what.

[mugofbeer]

The issue is that some people need to find out the hard way. Seeing deaths in Wuhan, Iran, Italy Spain, New York and Harbin are not enough for them. So when OKC gets slammed hard and hospitals are full then they will get it. Mask work it's been known since January and I've been wearing one since February. Basically people will not wear mask until it's required so the Rona gets a chance to spread more. Aint this a great state or what.

Wake up. It's not an Oklahoma thang. This is happening everywhere, even in heavily Democrat Denver. The Mayor announced Shelter at home ends Friday with an urging to continue to distance and wear masks.

[Pete]

Wake up. It's not an Oklahoma thang. This is happening everywhere, even in heavily Democrat Denver. The Mayor announced Shelter at home ends Friday with an urging to continue to distance and wear masks.

I was told by a friend passing through from California that even before the lockdown was lifted, there were way more people out and about here than on the coast, which is amazing given the massive difference in population.

And that makes sense given the politics here and mixed signals provided by local leaders and the national leaders most people listen to in Oklahoma.

Given the crowds at Kong's last night and elsewhere, you can see the physical demonstration of the "you're been lied to" mentality.

[BoulderSooner]

So when OKC gets slammed hard and hospitals are full .

want to bet that this doesn't happen

[jdizzle]

I was told by a friend passing through from California that even before the lockdown was lifted, there were way more people out and about here than on the coast, which is amazing given the massive difference in population.

And that makes sense given the politics here and mixed signals provided by local leaders and the national leaders most people listen to in Oklahoma.

Given the crowds at Kong's last night and elsewhere, you can see the physical demonstration of the "you're been lied to" mentality.

Listening to shows on Sirius XM, I beg to differ with your friend's experience. They are talking about how, in highly increasing increments, people are fed up with being inside, and are going out in large #s. Maybe that is just the experience of the hosts, but that is multiple people saying that.

[Pete]

Listening to shows on Sirius XM, I beg to differ with your friend's experience. They are talking about how, in highly increasing increments, people are fed up with being inside, and are going out in large #s. Maybe that is just the experience of the hosts, but that is multiple people saying that.

Could simply be the difference of people in L.A. vs. elsewhere.

[LocoAko]

Bunty,
You're right, but I suppose that I am one of the unlucky few. My neighbor (age 75) checked into the hospital, was diagnosed with the virus and two days later was dead. He was in decent health for his age.
C. T.

Yeah. And tell that to my friends and family living in NYC/NJ. The only reason people here have the privilege of such ignorance is because we have been fortunate it hasn't gotten too bad here .. yet.

[jdizzle]

Could simply be the difference of people in L.A. vs. elsewhere.

Oh, I know. My response sounded way more harsh than I meant it to. There are tons of different classes of people in LA( like, 5 times the population of Oklahoma). Just meaning it to say than Oklahoma is not alone in their ignorance and borderline apathy to the virus now. I know this thread is about OKC, but the responses make it seem like it is an Oklahoma problem only, when it is becoming a nationwide issue.

[Pete]

Oh, I know. My response sounded way more harsh than I meant it to. There are tons of different classes of people in LA( like, 5 times the population of Oklahoma). Just meaning it to say than Oklahoma is not alone in their ignorance and borderline apathy to the virus now. I know this thread is about OKC, but the responses make it seem like it is an Oklahoma problem only, when it is becoming a nationwide issue.

But there are degrees. And of course, the entire focus of this forum is Oklahoma.

[PhiAlpha]

want to bet that this doesn't happen

I have a few friends that are doctors, respiratory therapists, and nurses in the OKC and Tulsa metros. They’ve all said the same things...the effort to slow the spread worked, their hospitals are not even near full at this point, hospital workers, including them in some cases are taking pay cuts, getting furloughed and let go temporarily (hopefully) due to the hospitals being relatively empty, and that we’ve bought the time necessary to prepare for a spike in cases. In one case, a respiratory therapy group at a large OKC hospital has a room full of unused ventilators that aren’t needed at this point. All of them, one of which has had the virus, have said the same things...wear masks, continue to take the proper logical precautions (maintain distance from others, avoid crowds, wash hands/use hand sanitizer, etc), but that they are ready if a spike happens and one of them specifically said he didn’t feel this was a huge deal at this point for the majority of the state...and the low numbers justify that. Essentially they've all said it's time to start getting things back to normal, just don't be an idiot.

That said, I do think people gathering close together at Kong’s and other places are being needlessly reckless at this point.

[BoulderSooner]

That said, I do think people gathering close together at Kong’s and other places are being needlessly reckless at this point.

i very much agree with this ...

but i will say those at kongs average what 25 years old +/-

they are at close to no risk of death from covid

[Pete]

i very much agree with this ...

but i will say those at kongs average what 25 years old +/-

they are at close to no risk of death from covid

But the entire point of shutdowns and social distancing is to not transmit to others.

I can't believe this still has to be restated.

[runOKC]

But the entire point of shutdowns and social distancing is to not transmit to others.

I can't believe this still has to be restated.

You can say it 1,000 times but some people will still brush it off as it does not fit their narrative.

[BoulderSooner]

But the entire point of shutdowns and social distancing is to not transmit to others.

I can't believe this still has to be restated.

actually the point of shutdowns was to flatten the curve .. and not overwhelm the hospital system

[Ross MacLochness]

i very much agree with this ...

but i will say those at kongs average what 25 years old +/-

they are at close to no risk of death from covid

I wonder how many of them have parents or grandparents? Or how many of them visit stores and restaurants where vulnerable people might be, or other healthy people who are shopping for vulnerable people might be?

[PhiAlpha]

But the entire point of shutdowns and social distancing is to not transmit to others.

I can't believe this still has to be restated.

My only hope are that these people are smart enough to be aware of the risk they’re taking and keep their distance from their grandparents, parents in some cases and others who have a higher risk...though seeing some of the people I have at Kong’s...my confidence is not high lol.

[PhiAlpha]

actually the point of shutdowns was to flatten the curve .. and not overwhelm the hospital system

That was what I thought as well but at some point the sentiment changed from slow the spread to stop the virus entirely which is not remotely possible until a vaccine is developed.

[BoulderSooner]

That was what I thought as well but at some point the sentiment change from slow the spread to stop the virus completely which is not remotely possible until a vaccine is developed.

it very much became a "move the goal posts " scenario once the hospitals becoming "overwhelmed" did not happen

[PhiAlpha]

You can say it 1,000 times but some people will still brush it off as it does not fit their narrative.

That's unnecessary.

[Pete]

That was what I thought as well but at some point the sentiment changed from slow the spread to stop the virus entirely which is not remotely possible until a vaccine is developed.

The objective has always been to slow the spread and flatten the curve (which has always shown cases continuing on the backside).

We are getting dangerously close to gaslighting now.

[EastCoastGator]

There is this whole segment of the population that expects/wants everybody to freeze and do all these things that protect them, when in reality, the person that is concerned or at risk, is the one that should be taking all the precautions. If one feels at risk or concerned, they themselves need to adjust everything for the next X amount of years. The onus is on them at this point. Harry S Truman said it best...."If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

[Canoe]

i very much agree with this ...

but i will say those at kongs average what 25 years old +/-

they are at close to no risk of death from covid

Are you telling me that young people are willing to participate in high risk activities in order to increase the chances of having sex?

[Pete]

There is this whole segment of the population that expects/wants everybody to freeze and do all these things that protect them, when in reality, the person that is concerned or at risk, is the one that should be taking all the precautions. If one feels at risk or concerned, they themselves need to adjust everything for the next X amount of years. The onus is on them at this point. Harry S Truman said it best...."If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

This "screw everyone else" philosophy doesn't fly with pandemics. But we've been over this many times before.

There has to be a reasonable balance and absolutely no one is advocating that "everybody freeze".

[Pete]

Just updated for Wednesday:

[LocoAko]

This "screw everyone else" philosophy doesn't fly with pandemics. But we've been over this many times before.

There has to be a reasonable balance and absolutely no one is advocating that "everybody freeze".

Americans seem uniquely allergic to acting for the common good.

This attitude might work if asymptomatic transmission weren't a thing and if we all had individual private access to necessary resources (e.g., grocery stores), etc. Facts show this is not the case.

I guess grandma's just gotta live with an increased risk of dying of this disease because she needed milk from the store and the 25-year-olds just couldn't help but get their Cinco de Drinko on, eh?