Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[d-usa]

There have been multiple documented cases of people getting reinfected, so it's hard to tell really.

[Snowman]

There have been multiple documented cases of people getting reinfected, so it's hard to tell really.

Even in those cases there is the possibility that the original positive was a false positive, the negative tests between positive tests was a false negative, one or more of the tests kits was defective or contaminated, plus there are a few different strains identified so it may be a different strain of covid-19 they got later.

[Bunty]

People young and old really need to take seriously the need to wear masks when going to stores. It's the only way to go forward, rather than backward from this virus crisis.

[soonerguru]

People young and old really need to take seriously the need to wear masks when going to stores. It's the only way to go forward, rather than backward from this virus crisis.

This. But it is not happening. Even restaurants are already violating the mayor's rules on the matter. This is going to last forever because there are just too many self-centered jerks and Covidiots.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Ya my facebook feed was full of people going to restaurants that looked packed. 10 or 15 people at big tables.

Lowes also looked packed from pictures and very few people wearing masks.

[OkiePoke]

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

[jedicurt]

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

and what exactly are you basing this on?

[Brad72]

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

I agree. I think any vaccine that is created will have a limited effectiveness. I'm thinking we will have to be vaccinated every 6 or 12 months. Keep in mind the common cold is a Coronavirus and we've never developed a vaccine for that.

[Jersey Boss]

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

Shingles post chicken pox?

[FighttheGoodFight]

Some anecdotal experience shopping today. Sams club for my two week groceries. Completely different experience. Very very busy and many people with no masks. Workers still wearing masks and doing a good job. Most of the non mask wearers were elderly people. Something has for sure changed.

[Bill Robertson]

Shingles post chicken pox?

According to the Mayo Clinic Shingles isn’t a reinfection. It’s a reactivation of the virus you carried in your body since you had Chickenpox.

[jccouger]

Some anecdotal experience shopping today. Sams club for my two week groceries. Completely different experience. Very very busy and many people with no masks. Workers still wearing masks and doing a good job. Most of the non mask wearers were elderly people. Something has for sure changed.

My experience has been the very young adults (25 & younger) and the very old (60+) are the ones avoiding wearing a mask.

[OKC_Chipper]

72 new cases and 0 new deaths for the the update today. Back to back days with no reported deaths....

[OkiePoke]

and what exactly are you basing this on?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2010624

To better understand the duration of immunity against respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and the role of serum antibodies to the surface glycoproteins, F and G, in susceptibility to reinfection, 15 adults with previous natural RSV infection were challenged with RSV of the same strain group (A) at 2, 4, 8, 14, 20, and 26 months after natural infection. By 2 months about one-half and by 8 months two-thirds of the subjects became reinfected. Each challenge resulted in infection in at least one-fourth of the subjects. Within 26 months 73% had two or more and 47% had three or more infections. The duration of immunity tended to increase after two closely spaced infections. Higher neutralizing, F and GA antibody levels before challenge correlated significantly with protection against infection. However, even in subjects with the highest antibody levels, the risk of reinfection was 25%. Specific nasal IgA antibody titers did not correlate significantly with protection. This suggests that humoral neutralizing, F, and G antibodies correlate with resistance to reinfection, but protection is far from complete and is of short duration.

[soonerguru]

72 new cases and 0 new deaths for the the update today. Back to back days with no reported deaths....

There is a lag in death reporting for some reason.

[jerrywall]

There is a lag in death reporting for some reason.

From what I understand, that reason is a mixture of several things, one being that it takes a little longer to certify the cause of death, so there will be a lag, and it also appears not a lot of reporting/business is done on the weekends. That being said, we've had this lag and the weekend drop-offs all along, and these are the first days with 0 deaths reported in a bit (especially two in a row), so I'm crossing my fingers that we have many more of these days, and soon.

That being said, I'm sure tomorrow there will be a jump again, probably into the double digits, with the deaths having taken place over the past week. But I still like seeing these 0's for now.

[jedicurt]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2010624

i see... so comparing it to something that it doesn't share a lot of commonality with to show the commonality... other than both affecting the respiratory tract and a few symptoms, these seem to be completely different after that. look at who is most susceptible to severe cases with RSV's... it's children, young children, that doesn't seem to the case at all with any of the Covid-19 numbers anywhere. when older children and adults get RSV's the serious cases are still very very small, typically only affecting those over 65. again, not really what we are seeing with the Covid-19 numbers, because we are seeing a much larger number of seemingly healthy young adults that are seeing very severe cases.

interesting basis for comparison.

[jedicurt]

From what I understand, that reason is a mixture of several things, one being that it takes a little longer to certify the cause of death, so there will be a lag, and it also appears not a lot of reporting/business is done on the weekends. That being said, we've had this lag and the weekend drop-offs all along, and these are the first days with 0 deaths reported in a bit (especially two in a row), so I'm crossing my fingers that we have many more of these days, and soon.

That being said, I'm sure tomorrow there will be a jump again, probably into the double digits, with the deaths having taken place over the past week. But I still like seeing these 0's for now.

agree completely. i'd be perfectly happy with only seeing 0's from now on

[OkiePoke]

i see... so comparing it to something that it doesn't share a lot of commonality with to show the commonality... other than both affecting the respiratory tract and a few symptoms, these seem to be completely different after that. look at who is most susceptible to severe cases with RSV's... it's children, young children, that doesn't seem to the case at all with any of the Covid-19 numbers anywhere. when older children and adults get RSV's the serious cases are still very very small, typically only affecting those over 65. again, not really what we are seeing with the Covid-19 numbers, because we are seeing a much larger number of seemingly healthy young adults that are seeing very severe cases.

interesting basis for comparison.

I'm saying that different virus' have different re-infection periods. Immunity can be temporary or forever.

[jedicurt]

I'm saying that different virus' have different re-infection periods. Immunity can be temporary or forever.

and then you ended it with saying you felt it would be similar to the flu... and that is what i was asking for the basis of your opinions on it

[Bunty]

This. But it is not happening. Even restaurants are already violating the mayor's rules on the matter. This is going to last forever because there are just too many self-centered jerks and Covidiots.

I think the biggest problem is that hardly anybody personally knows of anybody who ended up in the hospital over the virus and died. Therefore they think the situation is being ridiculously overblown and so aren't taking it seriously. Surely a good number of us have been very sick with something before and don't want to take a chance with coming down with something bad that may be prolonged with no well established treatment.

[jdizzle]

This. But it is not happening. Even restaurants are already violating the mayor's rules on the matter. This is going to last forever because there are just too many self-centered jerks and Covidiots.

I think hyperbole won't work with this virus anymore, It was used in the beginning, and people are tired of it. Heck, I am (I am also following the mayors decrees, however). I know people are over hearing about how bad this virus is, as morbid as that may be. So the best course would be to be honest with people, and not exaggerate for effect (i.e. saying this will last forever), The flu will last forever, and has had 50 years of vaccines.

Just my opinion.

[kukblue1]

Braums i used to work at was full at lunch. Had people telling me. No tables blocked off whatever people sitting back to back and booths and next to one another.

[ctchandler]

Bunty,
You're right, but I suppose that I am one of the unlucky few. My neighbor (age 75) checked into the hospital, was diagnosed with the virus and two days later was dead. He was in decent health for his age.
C. T.

[OKC Talker]

I was going through the data from the state department of health and thought these were interesting:

https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/69
It looks like people got tired of staying home about mid-April and have been ramping up their travel since then. I wonder if we're going to see a huge jump in the next few days.

https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/16
There hasn't been a corresponding ramp up of hospitalizations and we seem to have sufficient hospital beds and resources. Right around now is where we would start seeing new cases from those people who started traveling more in mid-April though

https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/emb...on=OCCHD,TCCHD
You can pull from the data and create your own visualizations for specific areas to look at the trend lines. Check out the spike from the pork processing plant in texas county (district 1)!