Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Pete]

The zoo seems like they are taking a good approach to this! I have been in Zoofriends for several years and they do a wonderful job.

Yeah, really smart to space people out and them have them all walk in the same direction.

Especially this time of year, it's such an awesome place to be.

[mkjeeves]

Mayor Holt presser today prefaced by the statement that even though orders are being lifted some businesses will chose to remain closed for the health and safety of staff and some people will chose to remain home...”It was never a proclamation holding our economy back, it was and is a deadly pandemic.”

[TheTravellers]

Mayor Holt presser today prefaced by the statement that even though orders are being lifted some businesses will chose to remain closed for the health and safety of staff and some people will chose to remain home...”It was never a proclamation holding our economy back, it was and is a deadly pandemic.”

He was guest host of Lackmeyer's chat today since Lackmeyer was on furlough this week. Someone asked him if he was going to go out to eat tonight, his response was "No."

[soonerguru]

There is a major outbreak of COVID happening in Guymon and Texas County right now. The county is now 5th in confirmed cases in the state even though its population is fairly low.

Not sure why the Oklahoman hasn't covered this but Guymon has a major meat processing plant, Seaboard Farms. I don't know for a fact but it is likely that this is the source of the outbreak, like other meat-packing facilities in South Dakota and other states.

This needs more attention:

https://abc7amarillo.com/news/local/...es-in-oklahoma

[brian72]

Mayor Holt seems like a good man, but I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with him. Life is hard and there is not doubting that, but it's still life and needs to keep going. I'm sorry but I need to work, so I can pay Bills and feed family members. He can look at data and get advice from experts. I need to make $$$.

[jonny d]

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...events-669855/

Why not?! What is the harm in bringing WWE to OKC and Tulsa before the rest of the country opens up...

[dankrutka]

When the PEOPLE CHOSE TO GO THERE!!! Yeap, folks, this is an accurate representation of modern, sue happy America. The same country where you can order a steaming hot coffee, spill it on yourself, and sue the establishment for it and win. Next.

Have you ever taken the time to learn about that case? To use your words, "Yeap, folks, this is an accurate representation of modern, ill informed America."

McDonald's deserved that lawsuit. They'd faced numerous suits and warnings before and maintained negligent practices. The woman faced incredibly serious burns that were preventable.

Your post then dives into a rant about what we should like the answer is clear. "Opening the economy" too soon may be worse for the economy. Arguing against strawmen isn't helpful. EVERYONE WANTS THE ECONOMY OPEN. Not just you. We're just trying to figure out how to get there.

Edit: Pete and others already responded to this and I saw after I posted it. I can't believe after learning about the McDonald's case details anyone would think that it is a good example, but whatever.

[OKC Guy]

On a more cheery (or cheers) note:

Home Happy Hour – Retail alcohol sales in the U.S. for the six-week period ending April 11: Spirits +33%, wine +32%, total alcohol sales +26%, beer and cider +20% - Nielsen

[Jeepnokc]

Right and I get all of that which is why I said my comparison to this wrong and that lady had valid points. It’s still hard for me to fathom ever suing a business for buying coffee and spilling it on myself which is the way I see it. McDonald’s was in the wrong here and should have warned their customers and they should not have been serving coffee that hot. I agree.

Here is a good breakdown of the facts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...stella-liebeck

Two key points....she didn't want to sue. All she asked for was for McDonalds to pay her 20k in medical...they offered her $800. (She won 2.9 million but settled for $600,000) The coffee was so hot , she had 3rd degree burns to her genitals. Imagine the pain of third degree burns to your junk. I have had 2nd degree on my arm where I had the huge blisters and all and it was the worst pain I have ever been in. Now...back to the virus

[Bill Robertson]

On a more cheery (or cheers) note:

Home Happy Hour – Retail alcohol sales in the U.S. for the six-week period ending April 11: Spirits +33%, wine +32%, total alcohol sales +26%, beer and cider +20% - Nielsen

I have helped with that. Sanity has a price in this crappy situation. Actually, our alcohol volume has probably decreased. It’s just purchased and brought home instead of consumed with dinner out. I assume retail purchases are what Nielsen is tracking.

[OKC Guy]

I have helped with that. Sanity has a price in this crappy situation. Actually, our alcohol volume has probably decreased. It’s just purchased and brought home instead of consumed with dinner out. I assume retail purchases are what Nielsen is tracking.

Yes, retail. My guess is overall sales are down pretty big tho. I know a lot of distilleries have converted to making hand sanitizer to make up losses.

[Plutonic Panda]

Here is a good breakdown of the facts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...stella-liebeck

Two key points....she didn't want to sue. All she asked for was for McDonalds to pay her 20k in medical...they offered her $800. (She won 2.9 million but settled for $600,000) The coffee was so hot , she had 3rd degree burns to her genitals. Imagine the pain of third degree burns to your junk. I have had 2nd degree on my arm where I had the huge blisters and all and it was the worst pain I have ever been in. Now...back to the virus

Thank you for the insight and respectful post. I was wrong to use that as an example and I trust your judgement given your expertise in this field and given what Pete showed me I realized my error here. My bad.

[Plutonic Panda]

Have you ever taken the time to learn about that case? To use your words, "Yeap, folks, this is an accurate representation of modern, ill informed America."

McDonald's deserved that lawsuit. They'd faced numerous suits and warnings before and maintained negligent practices. The woman faced incredibly serious burns that were preventable.

Your post then dives into a rant about what we should like the answer is clear. "Opening the economy" too soon may be worse for the economy. Arguing against strawmen isn't helpful. EVERYONE WANTS THE ECONOMY OPEN. Not just you. We're just trying to figure out how to get there.

Edit: Pete and others already responded to this and I saw after I posted it. I can't believe after learning about the McDonald's case details anyone would think that it is a good example, but whatever.

Yeah I get it. I made a mistake here. I have to laugh at myself. What else can I do.

[Bunty]

There is a major outbreak of COVID happening in Guymon and Texas County right now. The county is now 5th in confirmed cases in the state even though its population is fairly low.

Not sure why the Oklahoman hasn't covered this but Guymon has a major meat processing plant, Seaboard Farms. I don't know for a fact but it is likely that this is the source of the outbreak, like other meat-packing facilities in South Dakota and other states.

This needs more attention:

https://abc7amarillo.com/news/local/...es-in-oklahoma

But there are three rural counties in western Kansas where the positive numbers are much higher. One is where Dodge City is. It reflects why the number of positive cases in Kansas have suddenly shot well above Oklahoma's. Nebraska has also shot well above Oklahoma. I wonder how long it will be before meat processing plants can get back to normal.

[soonerguru]

But there are three rural counties in western Kansas where the positive numbers are much higher. One is where Dodge City is. It reflects why the number of positive cases in Kansas have suddenly shot well above Oklahoma's. Nebraska has also shot well above Oklahoma. I wonder how long it will be before meat processing plants can get back to normal.

Why aren't they testing the workers? That's how to get back to normal. Test everyone. Have the sick ones stay home.

[d-usa]

Why aren't they testing the workers? That's how to get back to normal. Test everyone. Have the sick ones stay home.

There are a few problems with testing workers:

- Tests are still very much a scarce supply, so testing everyone is hard.
- Tests are also fairly unreliable with a problematic number of false negatives. Together with the fact that a big number of people are asymptomatic it means that even testing and symptom checking isn’t going to identify all sick people.
- Testing everyone just tests a single point in time. All it means is that right now this person is negative, but it doesn’t prevent them from being positive tomorrow. Combined with the delay in getting results it means that I can be tested Monday, get sick Tuesday, get my negative result on Wednesday and go to work.

Testing everyone, if the resources are there, is a good surveillance tool. It gives you a good idea how widespread it is and how many people are symptomatic and things like that. You get a ton of great data from that. But it’s somewhat useless as an operational tool to keep a place safe I think.

[Pete]

Numbers just updated for Saturday:

[OKCRT]

Have you ever taken the time to learn about that case? To use your words, "Yeap, folks, this is an accurate representation of modern, ill informed America."

McDonald's deserved that lawsuit. They'd faced numerous suits and warnings before and maintained negligent practices. The woman faced incredibly serious burns that were preventable.

Your post then dives into a rant about what we should like the answer is clear. "Opening the economy" too soon may be worse for the economy. Arguing against strawmen isn't helpful. EVERYONE WANTS THE ECONOMY OPEN. Not just you. We're just trying to figure out how to get there.

Edit: Pete and others already responded to this and I saw after I posted it. I can't believe after learning about the McDonald's case details anyone would think that it is a good example, but whatever.

I remember that steaming hot coffee they used to serve. No way you could even think about taking a sip without it burning your mouth. There was just no reason or need to serve people something that hot.

[SoonerDave]

Numbers just updated for Saturday:

One of the key metrics they've been studying is *current* hospitalizations, and that's been steadily dropping - down from 255 yesterday to 236 today. I would also encourage everyone to read the much more detailed epidemiological breakdown the OHD has started - they put together a much more comprehensive package of statistics than the daily release affords. What's really interesting is that they track new case growth back to the date of symptom onset, not merely the day a positive test came back. That track, combined with the hospitalization decrease, actually shows a much more favorable trend.

I would love to see more antibody studies performed like the one released by Stanford University, which strongly suggests that actual infection rates are perhaps 50x or more than what has been confirmed. The number of people who may have had COVID-19 and *never* exhibited symptoms may be astonishingly higher than anyone might have predicted. Have to see more data to make conclusions, but it is very interesting information.

[kukblue1]

I wonder what the Death Rate is if it were broken down a little more. Like 55-65 and 45-55 and 35-45 etc. Or even just 55 and over. Currently the Death rate is .6% for under 50 and that is confirmed cases only. Any live lost is bad however i bet that percentage is even lower when you figure people that didn't know they had it or had it and never got tested. Even in Italy and New York the death rate is pretty low for people under 45-50 range. Not saying that is a good thing and we should all be going out having a good time. Just saying that if your younger and healthy you have a great chance of living.

[dankrutka]

I would love to see more antibody studies performed like the one released by Stanford University, which strongly suggests that actual infection rates are perhaps 50x or more than what has been confirmed. The number of people who may have had COVID-19 and *never* exhibited symptoms may be astonishingly higher than anyone might have predicted. Have to see more data to make conclusions, but it is very interesting information.

For those following this closely, COVID-19 has provided a good reminder of the complexity of the research process. A lot of people tend to think that most studies are supposed to provide clear answers to problems, but in most cases, they just provide a piece of a puzzle... taken by itself a study can even be misleading depending on sample, methods, etc. Far too many people often cherry pick studies that confirm their desired conclusions as if they are the end-all-be-all. However, combined with other studies over time a clearer picture usually emerges. We're seeing this process play out at an accelerated speed.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

For those following this closely, COVID-19 has provided a good reminder of the complexity of the research process. A lot of people tend to think that most studies are supposed to provide clear answers to problems, but in most cases, they just provide a piece of a puzzle... taken by itself a study can even be misleading depending on sample, methods, etc. Far too many people often cherry pick studies that confirm their desired conclusions as if they are the end-all-be-all. However, combined with other studies over time a clearer picture usually emerges. We're seeing this process play out at an accelerated speed.

Thank you for saying this. Science progresses by fits and starts. I remember a mentor saying "you just have to move the ball forward a small distance. That's what drives the field."

[kukblue1]

Who is doing Antibody testing in OKC? Watched news 9 and Amanda Taylor said she got a test for $55. Didn't really say where through. For that price I wouldn't mind getting one. Who knows I was like to a Thunder game then concert then another Thunder game end of February. Maybe I have been exposed

[Bill Robertson]

Who is doing Antibody testing in OKC? Watched news 9 and Amanda Taylor said she got a test for $55. Didn't really say where through. For that price I wouldn't mind getting one. Who knows I was like to a Thunder game then concert then another Thunder game end of February. Maybe I have been exposed

I’d like to know too. I would get one. I had “something” for about two weeks in mid March. Haven’t felt 100% but a few days since then. I’ve been curious.

[Dustin]

I can't believe Stillwater gave in to these lunatics and let them win. Shameful.

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/...ainst-workers/