Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Libbymin]

Went by TLC and it was busier than I’ve ever seen it...

[timothy.a.owen]

I drove around today and was absolutely shocked how busy places (Walmart, Target, Sprouts, Lowe's, PetSmart, etc.) were today - I also didn't see any business that had customers waiting outside even though some parking lots were absolutely 75%+ full. Just an observation.

[Bill Robertson]

I drove around today and was absolutely shocked how busy places (Walmart, Target, Sprouts, Lowe's, PetSmart, etc.) were today - I also didn't see any business that had customers waiting outside even though some parking lots were absolutely 75%+ full. Just an observation.

I went to Chilis on NW Exp & Rockwell last night to pick up dinner. I thought then that Target’s lot was just as full as it ever is and there was no line outside waiting to go in.

[d-usa]

A large number of carriers are asymptomatic, but can still spread the virus.

[rezman]

Went by TLC and it was busier than I’ve ever seen it...

No kidding! Went by there twice today and it was packed. It looked like they were having their annual midnight madness sale.

[TheTravellers]

Fait Maison in Edmond is re-opening on 5/1. Their email said this - "We will still take extreme precautions to secure the safety of our employees, friends and guests". Um, if you still have to take "extreme precautions", should you really even re-open?

[jonny d]

Fait Maison in Edmond is re-opening on 5/1. Their email said this - "We will still take extreme precautions to secure the safety of our employees, friends and guests". Um, if you still have to take "extreme precautions", should you really even re-open?

Well, then no place should open. If they had left off the extreme, someone would take it as they wouldn't try hard enough to make the environment as safe as possible.

[PhiAlpha]

Fait Maison in Edmond is re-opening on 5/1. Their email said this - "We will still take extreme precautions to secure the safety of our employees, friends and guests". Um, if you still have to take "extreme precautions", should you really even re-open?

Kind of a subjective argument very much depending on your definition of “extreme.”

[TheTravellers]

If I was the one responsible for putting out the email, I would've left off extreme, because to me that conjurs up servers wearing N95 masks and gloves and serving with long utensils, it just sounds, well, extreme. That was kind of my point - when most people see "extreme", they might be spooked, so why not either leave that word out or just wait until "extreme" precautions, not just regular ones, don't need to be taken to re-open.

[Bunty]

I think interesting is a very good word for what we’ll see in the next few weeks. I think there’s a good chance that daily new cases will increase. I think there’s a good chance that daily new cases will stay pretty much level. I think there’s a good chance that daily new cases will decrease. And I think that nobody really has any idea which of these will happen.

I think it depends on how many people over the age of 50, especially over 65, who are in poor health, will still be foolish enough to venture out. Payne County recorded its first death on Saturday. The person was over 65.

[SoonerDave]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amc-m...b6d376358f3f7d

AMC Theatres, the largest movie theater chain in the U.S., won’t reopen its locations until at least this summer.

AMC is in really bad financial straits, and is trying to carve out a path for survival. I think their decision not to reopen is due in part to the risk of having to close again. If they opened, then had to close again, they could be toast.

[Pete]

^

There are no movies being released into theaters and this time of year is very slow.

Theaters make all their money in the summers and holiday season.

[Pete]

DoD = Day over Day

[kukblue1]

Look like 72 New cases and 60 new cases in the last 2 days. Getting better. I really think we should be waiting until the 15th to open things back up. The weather at that point will be warmer and help at least kill things quicker outside. Also the numbers might keep going down and we will just be better prepared by the 15th. Also clinical trail results on some drugs are due out shortly. It looks like the Plasma is really helping. We will have a better idea on what will be working by the 15ht. Over all I just think waiting 2 more weeks would be beneficial.

[jonny d]

Look like 72 New cases and 60 new cases in the last 2 days. Getting better. I really think we should be waiting until the 15th to open things back up. The weather at that point will be warmer and help at least kill things quicker outside. Also the numbers might keep going down and we will just be better prepared by the 15th. Also clinical trail results on some drugs are due out shortly. It looks like the Plasma is really helping. We will have a better idea on what will be working by the 15ht. Over all I just think waiting 2 more weeks would be beneficial.

Without more testing, this state is in trouble, no matter when we reopen everything. It is kinda sad how few tests Oklahoma has had done.

[kukblue1]

Without more testing, this state is in trouble, no matter when we reopen everything. It is kinda sad how few tests Oklahoma has had done.

Antibodies test is the test we really should be cranking out. If your sick right now it most likely isn't the flu. Coughing, trouble breathing, fever it could be other things yes but then you should get tested. I guess it's just as important to test for Covid-19 cause you could have it and not show symptoms but that would be impossible to test everyone. Antibodies test might I think are easier to do in mass numbers.

[Snowman]

Look like 72 New cases and 60 new cases in the last 2 days. Getting better. I really think we should be waiting until the 15th to open things back up. The weather at that point will be warmer and help at least kill things quicker outside. Also the numbers might keep going down and we will just be better prepared by the 15th. Also clinical trail results on some drugs are due out shortly. It looks like the Plasma is really helping. We will have a better idea on what will be working by the 15ht. Over all I just think waiting 2 more weeks would be beneficial.

I would not put much stock in a two day trend on the weekend, for multiple weeks weekend numbers have been around a quarter to half below the average weekday numbers, so probably more a reflection on the system and people's behavior than infection rate.

[SoonerDave]

Antibody research pending formal peer review out of Santa Clara shows that actual COVD penetration in the population may be 55x actual confirmed case rates. This, if the number holds up, would translate into a CFR of 0.1%, far, far lower than original projections.

As a matter of statistical curiosity, I took our current fatality total of 179, divided it by . 001, giving a supposed "actual" case count of 179,000. That number, divided by 55 (the presumptive factor of underestimation), and got 3,254. Our current state confirmed case total: 3,253.

You obviously can't make absolute conclusions on a single data point like that, and I fully realize there are other factors involved, but the raw mathematical similarity is amazing.

If we have anywhere near 179,000 cases in OK, implying literally thousands - perhaps tens of thousands - had COVD with *zero* symptoms, the notion of achieving herd immunity more rapidly isn't nearly as farfetched as it might have once seemed. I'll be very interested to see how these numbers pan out in other areas.

[Canoe]

DoD = Day over Day

How is the medical system holding up in Oklahoma. Has/Is anyone experiencing sub standard care?

[jn1780]

Antibody research pending formal peer review out of Santa Clara shows that actual COVD penetration in the population may be 55x actual confirmed case rates. This, if the number holds up, would translate into a CFR of 0.1%, far, far lower than original projections.

As a matter of statistical curiosity, I took our current fatality total of 179, divided it by . 001, giving a supposed "actual" case count of 179,000. That number, divided by 55 (the presumptive factor of underestimation), and got 3,254. Our current state confirmed case total: 3,253.

You obviously can't make absolute conclusions on a single data point like that, and I fully realize there are other factors involved, but the raw mathematical similarity is amazing.

If we have anywhere near 179,000 cases in OK, implying literally thousands - perhaps tens of thousands - had COVD with *zero* symptoms, the notion of achieving herd immunity more rapidly isn't nearly as farfetched as it might have once seemed. I'll be very interested to see how these numbers pan out in other areas.

Its not the only data point though. We also had a NY survey that showed 21% of NYC could have already gotten it. In that case, their shutdown came to late to actually help them or the subway system made it impossible to significantly slow it.

I think we could see an increase in cases, whenever everything opens up. However, what we are learning from antibody testing is that there are far too many asymptomatic out there for testing to make a significant difference with what resources we can throw at it. If the models, were calibrated with this antibody information they would probably say wait until next year to reopen when we have more testing and we are feeling strong downward pressure from herd immunity kicking in. For NYC, they are probably starting to feel this herd immunity kicking in.

[dankrutka]

Props to them. I think this is a perfect opportunity for individuals, businesses and large corporations to demonstrate what freedom really means. If you want to be open or go to places that are open fine. If not don’t.

I don't agree with framing this as a personal freedom issue. COVID-19 is, at it's core, a public health issue. When individuals or businesses open up in ways that irresponsibly harm others the core issue is NOT freedom. The only way to frame this as a "freedom" issue is to have no sense of the common good, sacrifice, or empathy.

As some businesses open and more people go out, I hope they have public health, not personal freedom, on their minds.

[Pete]

[jerrywall]

I don't agree with framing this as a personal freedom issue. COVID-19 is, at it's core, a public health issue. When individuals or businesses open up in ways that irresponsibly harm others the core issue is NOT freedom. The only way to frame this as a "freedom" issue is to have no sense of the common good, sacrifice, or empathy.

Additionally, there's no "freedom" for the employees except those able and willing to quit if need be. We're in that position with my wife's job. They're making noise about making folks return this week. There is absolutely nothing in her job that requires her to be on site. However, I'm in an extremely high risk group and my youngest son has an artificial heart valve and is waiting for the right time to schedule an open heart surgery to replace that valve with an adult sized valve (this one was put in when he was an infant). It was supposed to happen this summer and has been delayed, but he's also at high risk. So if her job forces her to return she'll just quit because it's not worth the risk.

As some businesses open and more people go out, I hope they have public health, not personal freedom, on their minds.

From what I've heard anecdotally about shops this weekend, a lot of folks are just acting like it's everything back to normal...

[dankrutka]

Fait Maison in Edmond is re-opening on 5/1. Their email said this - "We will still take extreme precautions to secure the safety of our employees, friends and guests". Um, if you still have to take "extreme precautions", should you really even re-open?

Yes. My interpretation was the opposite of yours. If you want my business, then take "extreme precautions." To me, it's weird to interpret being "extreme" toward safety as some kind of problem. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of people have this viewpoint that they want things to be normal. I don't. I want a business to require masks, limit customers, and have clear rules about where people stand or move.

[kukblue1]

Good looking numbers over the last 3 days. We might have this beat in 2 more weeks. Oh wait we are opening things back up never mind. Can't wait to see the numbers in a little over a week. Hopefully they will stay good but i'm thinking probably not.