Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[FighttheGoodFight]

I saw a good tip for anyone who has loved ones that are older from Reddit. Buy a cheap 4G tablet and have them on your cell plan for 10 bucks a month so you can video call them. Here is the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips...o_you_want_to/

[Bill Robertson]

My mother was in a very similar condition as you describe yours. Send her cards and photographs. Lots of photographs.

Good idea

[Rivalyn]

KFOR did a story about how you new can track cases by cities but I can't seem to find anything?

I haven't seen cities. This tracks by counties.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...2ddc862ec0eadf

[AP]

A bunch of interesting polling data here: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...in-a-pandemic/

[TheTravellers]

New scientific study just out that further confirms the need for masks if near people at all: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v1

Thanks for this, nice to see a paper that actually has science behind it, rather than articles with a bunch of "may"s, "can"s, "should"s, etc. Looks like there's still some conflicting information between this one and another couple of studies that you posted (I'm still reading those, and will post something about them later), though.

This part is one of the (seeming) contradictions:

"Based on our detailed discussion above, cloth masks have not been shown to increase
the risk of infection in people using them compared to not wearing any mask."

Other studies say that if you wear a mask and adjust it, then yes, your risk does increase. And I believe that pretty much all the studies say that washing hands, sanitizing surfaces, and social distancing still must happen while wearing cloth masks, so there's that caveat too.

I don't think America's going to go in for wholesale "wear a mask every time you leave your house, for the next however long, maybe forever", so we'll see what happens.

[jn1780]

Another floating "science experiment" that supports the idea that the total number of cases has been far higher than reported. Which is good because that means mortality rate is lower than the initial 2 to 3 percent estimate. True, this is a ship loaded with young people, but the diamond princess was loaded with older people and those numbers suggest the same thing. There is going to be a bunch of antibody studies coming out here shortly also.

https://news.yahoo.com/possible-clue...201204720.html

[OKC_Chipper]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...Vo-Jdu9NPek784
Study out of California from testing in early April, 50-85x more prevalent than the number of confirmed cases.

[TheTravellers]

Good article on the mechanics of COVID-19:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-c...b6d641a6bbf629

[jn1780]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...Vo-Jdu9NPek784
Study out of California from testing in early April, 50-85x more prevalent than the number of confirmed cases.

Yep, This virus is definitely unique in that amount of people that it doesn't really affect at all. Should be given a new name: The All or Nothing Virus

[AP]

It looks like Oklahoma updated the way they are reporting.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/

[Pete]

[soonerguru]

The place my mom is in started screening visitors (taking temperature and asking symptom related questions) the morning after the Thunder game was cancelled. Within a few days after that they closed to all visitors. We can drop stuff off for mom outside the door and it gets sanitized before it goes in. Thats as close as you get to your loved one.

Taking people's temperature as a screening device is devoid of value. People who are very sick sometimes don't have a fever. People who are asymptomatic "superspreaders" don't have a fever. This is just something people do to try to feel better but provides no meaningful defense against COVID-19 spread.

[Teo9969]

Another floating "science experiment" that supports the idea that the total number of cases has been far higher than reported. Which is good because that means mortality rate is lower than the initial 2 to 3 percent estimate. True, this is a ship loaded with young people, but the diamond princess was loaded with older people and those numbers suggest the same thing. There is going to be a bunch of antibody studies coming out here shortly also.

https://news.yahoo.com/possible-clue...201204720.html

Feel like active military personnel is not the best control group for this kind of thing: Generally young, super healthy, and regulated diets.

[Teo9969]

Taking people's temperature as a screening device is devoid of value. People who are very sick sometimes don't have a fever. People who are asymptomatic "superspreaders" don't have a fever. This is just something people do to try to feel better but provides no meaningful defense against COVID-19 spread.

I think most people have come around to that. As Bill mentioned, that was an initial precaution they put in place, and have since just shut the place down.

[Bill Robertson]

Taking people's temperature as a screening device is devoid of value. People who are very sick sometimes don't have a fever. People who are asymptomatic "superspreaders" don't have a fever. This is just something people do to try to feel better but provides no meaningful defense against COVID-19 spread.

I agree. But I’ve heard of a number of companies taking employees temps on the way in. There was also a governor, I don’t know which state, that said in an interview that part of opening restaurants in his state would probably be taking patrons temps at the door.

[TheTravellers]

Said it long ago, many times since, and will say it again now - testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, and more testing. We need to have hundreds of millions of tests in stock and starting to be used, that's the *only* way we can figure out a way forward. Temps, masks, social distancing, etc., are all kind of part of it, but we *must* increase testing immensely.

[dankrutka]

Other studies say that if you wear a mask and adjust it, then yes, your risk does increase. And I believe that pretty much all the studies say that washing hands, sanitizing surfaces, and social distancing still must happen while wearing cloth masks, so there's that caveat too.

I don't think America's going to go in for wholesale "wear a mask every time you leave your house, for the next however long, maybe forever", so we'll see what happens.

Yes, we need more education on how to properly wear a mask so people understand that you still need to avoid touching your face and the mask. That can be done though. We've educated on other issues pretty quickly.

I don't wear a mask any time I go outside. I go for walks and runs and don't wear one because I can keep 20-30 feet from people at all times. I wear a mask any time I'm going to come into contact with people and I think that does need to become the norm. It's a way better option than say a 15% increase in transmissions that leads to another shelter-in-place down the road.

[dankrutka]

Antibody research indicates coronavirus may be far more widespread than known

“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.

[Pete]

Heartland hotspots: A sudden rise in coronavirus cases is hitting rural states without stay-at-home orders

Washington (CNN)The test results came back on Easter Sunday. Tammy had been feeling "kind of crappy" when she went to her doctor in rural southeastern Oklahoma last week. A sign of possible pneumonia prompted her to get a coronavirus test later that day at the McCurtain County Health Department in Idabel.

When it came back positive, Tammy, who spoke on the condition that CNN not use her last name to protect her privacy, had already quarantined herself. Isolated, she decided to write her governor, Kevin Stitt, the first-term Republican and one of just 8 governors in the US to resist issuing a statewide stay-at-home-order. Tammy had voted for Stitt but she didn't agree with his decision.

Her message to him was simple: "Shut this mess down."

Just as cases are starting to plateau in some big cities and along the coasts, the coronavirus is catching fire in rural states across the American heartland, where there has been a small but significant spike this week in cases. Playing out amid these outbreaks is a clash between a frontier culture that values individual freedom and personal responsibility, and the onerous but necessary restrictions to contain a novel biological threat.

The bump in coronavirus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma saw a 53% increase in cases over the past week, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Over same time, cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.

[jdizzle]

Heartland hotspots: A sudden rise in coronavirus cases is hitting rural states without stay-at-home orders

Washington (CNN)The test results came back on Easter Sunday. Tammy had been feeling "kind of crappy" when she went to her doctor in rural southeastern Oklahoma last week. A sign of possible pneumonia prompted her to get a coronavirus test later that day at the McCurtain County Health Department in Idabel.

When it came back positive, Tammy, who spoke on the condition that CNN not use her last name to protect her privacy, had already quarantined herself. Isolated, she decided to write her governor, Kevin Stitt, the first-term Republican and one of just 8 governors in the US to resist issuing a statewide stay-at-home-order. Tammy had voted for Stitt but she didn't agree with his decision.

Her message to him was simple: "Shut this mess down."

Just as cases are starting to plateau in some big cities and along the coasts, the coronavirus is catching fire in rural states across the American heartland, where there has been a small but significant spike this week in cases. Playing out amid these outbreaks is a clash between a frontier culture that values individual freedom and personal responsibility, and the onerous but necessary restrictions to contain a novel biological threat.

The bump in coronavirus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma saw a 53% increase in cases over the past week, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Over same time, cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.

Meh, I think it is more because OK finally started testing a little more. 53% is reasonable, when we were barely testing at all. Those other states have bigger problems. OK I think is fine. You will obviously have more positives if you test more.

[OKC Talker]

Florida beaches are re-opening today for "essential" fishing, biking, swimming, and etc...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jacksonvi...-1-restriction

[OKC Talker]

Taking people's temperature as a screening device is devoid of value. People who are very sick sometimes don't have a fever. People who are asymptomatic "superspreaders" don't have a fever. This is just something people do to try to feel better but provides no meaningful defense against COVID-19 spread.

I think that OKC is actually taking people's temperature at the door of City Hall before allowing them into the building

[jn1780]

Meh, I think it is more because OK finally started testing a little more. 53% is reasonable, when we were barely testing at all. Those other states have bigger problems. OK I think is fine. You will obviously have more positives if you test more.

I'm sure social distancing helps, but the author of that article left out other states to compare to. Here are the 5 states listed in the article with their 1 Week average rate of growth. Some might say OMG look at South Dakota! But I will point out that around 500 of those 1,311 cases came from 1 meat packing plant. Its hard to social distance at a facility like this.It only takes 1 individual to infect the place. Just like it takes 1 individual to infect a nursing home. The good thing about a Meat plant is that most people can handle it. Good thing too, because shutting down food processing facilities is bad for our long term health.


States with Partial or No Social Distancing Orders
Oklahoma New Cases, 1 Week Average .97X
Arkansas New Cases, 1 Week Average 1.01X
Nebraska New Cases, 1 Week Average 1.03x
Iowa New Cases, 1 Week Average 1.04X
South Dakota New Cases, 1 Week Average 1.17X


States with Full Social Distancing Orders
New Mexico New Cases, 1 Week Average 1.04X
California New Cases, 1 Week Average .98X
North Dakota New Cases, 1 Week Average 1.02X
Oregon New Cases, 1 Week Average .94X
Connecticut, 1 Week Average .99x
Mississippi, 1 Week Average 1.03X
Texas, 1 Week Average .99x
Kansas, 1 Week Average .98X

[kukblue1]

Said it long ago, many times since, and will say it again now - testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, and more testing. We need to have hundreds of millions of tests in stock and starting to be used, that's the *only* way we can figure out a way forward. Temps, masks, social distancing, etc., are all kind of part of it, but we *must* increase testing immensely.

Agree Agree Agree. I'm for everyone having a card that you must show that you have been tested and have the antibodies in your system. Even check it once a month and get another card. You must show your card to enter a store or business or go back to work. I'm sure people will have fake cards though that's the problem with that i guess.

On another note wow traffic was bad today. People are out spending that money already. Don't be giving it to the big companies support places that have been close for weeks now/ Whataburger on council had about 11 cars in drive last night at 11:30 at night.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Agree Agree Agree. I'm for everyone having a card that you must show that you have been tested and have the antibodies in your system. Even check it once a month and get another card. You must show your card to enter a store or business or go back to work. I'm sure people will have fake cards though that's the problem with that i guess.

On another note wow traffic was bad today. People are out spending that money already. Don't be giving it to the big companies support places that have been close for weeks now/ Whataburger on council had about 11 cars in drive last night at 11:30 at night.

First time I have been out today in two weeks (just took the car for a nice drive) and noticed the traffic was like a normal day. I don't know if people are going back to work or just starting to not stay home!