Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Teo9969]

The single most hopeful stat I've seen is this:

Date -- Cumulative Hospitalized -- Current Hospitalized -- Cumulative Deaths

4/3/2020 -- 289 -- 171 -- 38 (=80 left hospital alive: 27.68%)
4/2/2020 -- 257 -- 182 -- 34 (=41 left hospital alive: 15.95%)
4/1/2020 -- 219 -- 174 -- 30 (=15 left hospital alive: 6.85%)

Seems like these numbers only come out on the weekdays from these reports shared by jerrywall from here: https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/ex...-order-reports

[catcherinthewry]

Five days of slowing grown? Going from 109 to 171 from 4/3 to 4/4? Doesn't appear to be slowing to me -- but what do I know, I'm just a mathematician....

I'm guessing he's looking at the percentages going down rather than the numbers. Which is encouraging but not the right way to look at it. Of course I have a Bachelor's in Mathematics so what do I know?

[OKC Guy]

Five days of slowing grown? Going from 109 to 171 from 4/3 to 4/4? Doesn't appear to be slowing to me -- but what do I know, I'm just a mathematician....

Look at hospitalized.

[catcherinthewry]

Look at hospitalized.

Look at the number not the % increase.

[SoonerDave]

The numbers have tended to go down on the weekend then back up again once the week starts.

We'll see if that pattern holds.

Very fair point.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

I'm guessing he's looking at the percentages going down rather than the numbers. Which is encouraging but not the right way to look at it. Of course I have a Bachelor's in Mathematics so what do I know?

Applied or Theoretical?
JK. I'm just reassured that there are 2 posters on here with math degrees. Go STEM!

[OKC Guy]

Quoting picture so some can see what I see:

Hospital % rates and numbers gone down 5 days in a row. Percent is a key metric

Deaths percent same or gone down 6 days in a row

Am I wrong?

So even if positives go up if hospitalized % goes down then it wouldn’t matter how many are positive if they are not being admitted. Thats good news not bad

[catcherinthewry]

Applied or Theoretical?
JK. I'm just reassured that there are 2 posters on here with math degrees. Go STEM!

Applied. I started my Master's in Math, but soon realized that my brain didn't work that way.

[mugofbeer]

We are roughly at day 14 from when stay-at-homes started to be widely implemented. Hopefully, we will see some slowing down and show SAH is working. No matter what, l hope all of you, your friends and families stay healthy and COVID -free.

My neighbors are both nurses and 1 is quarantined after being exposed to someone who had it while not fully protected. Luckily, they have a full-sized completed basement so she's holed-up there while her husband and 2 year old stay upstairs but she can only talk and see her baby from up the stairs right now. So far, no symptoms but they still have to put a sign on their door.

[catcherinthewry]

Quoting picture so some can see what I see:

Hospital % rates and numbers gone down 5 days in a row. Percent is a key metric

Deaths percent same or gone down 6 days in a row

Am I wrong?

Yes, the rates can go down while the numbers are still going up. When the numbers start going down that will be a good sign.

[OKC Guy]

Yes, the rates can go down while the numbers are still going up. When the numbers start going down that will be a good sign.

The daily numbers have gone down when compared to prior day hospitalizations. 5 days in a row.

[soonerguru]

One thing I have observed is the rate of growth in Oklahoma County seems to be slowing, while the rate of growth in Tulsa County and Cleveland County continues apace. Cleveland County has more deaths than Oklahoma County.

Another thing I've observed is the locations of the mobile testing sites really exclude Southeastern Oklahoma. To drive from Broken Bow to McAlester is way too far. I worry about that part of the state because there is virtually no quality healthcare aside from the Choctaw Nation facilities and because of the nearness to the major outbreak in Louisiana. I don't believe for a minute there is only one carrier in McCurtain County.

As regards the news, and COVID-19, it is absurd to try to sanction any commentary on city, state, and national leaders. This is a crisis. Muting content to that which merely discusses epidemiology is ridiculous bordering on censoring. It's one thing to engage in petty political arguments, it's quite another to discuss facts, such as: President Trump said X. President Trump fired Y. Governor Stitt imposed restrictions in some counties but not others, or Governor Stitt "shut down" nonessential businesses but exempted furniture stores like Mathis Brothers. Sorry, that is not political.

[Pete]

As regards the news, and COVID-19, it is absurd to try to sanction any commentary on city, state, and national leaders. This is a crisis. Muting content to that which merely discusses epidemiology is ridiculous bordering on censoring. It's one thing to engage in petty political arguments, it's quite another to discuss facts, such as: President Trump said X. President Trump fired Y. Governor Stitt imposed restrictions in some counties but not others, or Governor Stitt "shut down" nonessential businesses but exempted furniture stores like Mathis Brothers. Sorry, that is not political.

We have threads in the Politics forum for this.

Once you start dragging political figures and parties and ideologies into a discussion, things are going to go south very quickly, then informed discussion is lost. In this way, discussion isn't 'muted', it's separated.

We've been separating these things out for years here and it's the reason few discussions -- outside of those in the Politics forum -- devolve into the typical vitriol seen on almost every discussion forum. And I know this because I have been moderating forums for almost 20 years.

So, that's the way it's going to be here and it will not change regardless of current events.

[RedDollar]

One thing I have observed is the rate of growth in Oklahoma County seems to be slowing, while the rate of growth in Tulsa County and Cleveland County continues apace. Cleveland County has more deaths than Oklahoma County.

l.

Cleveland County has more deaths due to infections in one nursing home.

[TheTravellers]

Applied or Theoretical?
JK. I'm just reassured that there are 2 posters on here with math degrees. Go STEM!

2.5, I've got a mathematics minor (major is in Computer Science).

[jn1780]

Yes, the rates can go down while the numbers are still going up. When the numbers start going down that will be a good sign.

These are total hospitalized and total positive cases since the beginning. This particular dataset is only useful at determining rate of growth. We would need to subtract recovered and deaths from hospitalized.

[catcherinthewry]

The daily numbers have gone down when compared to prior day hospitalizations. 5 days in a row.

I'm sorry, you're right. I thought you were referring to the cumulative numbers for some reason. I really hope that the downward trend of daily hospitalizations continues.

[catcherinthewry]

2.5, I've got a mathematics minor (major is in Computer Science).

I started in CS, but really sucked at it. I was good on the Math side so I just went that direction.

[TheTravellers]

I started in CS, but really sucked at it. I was good on the Math side so I just went that direction.

Heh, I started in Accounting and got bored, so went with CS instead, theoretical math was just fun for me, so I did that as a minor.

[mugofbeer]

I'm sorry, you're right. I thought you were referring to the cumulative numbers for some reason. I really hope that the downward trend of daily hospitalizations continues.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the end but for all the criticism given your Governor, CO's Governor has gotten just as many accolades - if not more.

Yet, in CO, where the Governor recommended "stay at home" weeks ago and implemented official "stay at home" order April 26, the stats are far worse per capita than OK. CO with about 2x OK's population, has 140 +14, deaths while OK has 46 dead +4. The discrepancy per capita is getting worse here.

CO has also been recommending face masks for a couple of weeks and it is now mandatory. I hope no one else gets it or dies but OKs stats may even out with CO, but right now, CO shows what is going on in OK isn't curently a harm. I understand this could change but hope it doesn't.

I know about lack of kits and no statewide stay at home order but per deaths, the ultimate result, the stricter guidelines in CO aren't really proving to be the proof of success.

Good luck to all of you.

[Canoe]

2.5, I've got a mathematics minor (major is in Computer Science).

OKCTalk seems to be pretty nerdy place. It must be why I enjoy the conversation here. *Mostly

[RustytheBailiff]

It will be interesting to see what happens in the end but for all the criticism given your Governor, CO's Governor has gotten just as many accolades - if not more.

Yet, in CO, where the Governor recommended "stay at home" weeks ago and implemented official "stay at home" order April 26, the stats are far worse per capita than OK. CO with about 2x OK's population, has 140 +14, deaths while OK has 46 dead +4. The discrepancy per capita is getting worse here.

CO has also been recommending face masks for a couple of weeks and it is now mandatory. I hope no one else gets it or dies but OKs stats may even out with CO, but right now, CO shows what is going on in OK isn't curently a harm. I understand this could change but hope it doesn't.

I know about lack of kits and no statewide stay at home order but per deaths, the ultimate result, the stricter guidelines in CO aren't really proving to be the proof of success.

Good luck to all of you.

Hey, I'm not positive, but I do think the Colorado Governor did issue a stay at home order prior to April 26th.

[mugofbeer]

Yeah.... maybe a little. Maybe March 26. Thanks!

[mugofbeer]

Nm

[mugofbeer]

The problem isn’t the reporting of facts, it’s editorializing them with your own highly politicized opinion. It’s something apparently you and other struggle with here. It’s possible to comment on things without making politically charged commentary. I don’t know why you think saying things like “Stittiot” and adding long winded commentary on how dumb you think the Republican Party/government in OK is adds anything useful to the conversation.

Or, just saying kindly because people really want them separated, this is not the political thread.