Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[RustytheBailiff]

Oh, this definitely strikes me as a deeply political post.

Come on Uncle Rusty, you’re better than this.

Sorry, not deeply political, just factual.. check out the briefing yourself. Perhaps he's not afraid of getting the virus, but I am. In the absence of a magical cure or vaccine, it seems prudent to wear face/mouth and nose protection to either stop one from spreading the virus if they should, unfortunately, have it or to prevent breathing in the virus. But to have Trump state in his lackidasical manner, that he's better than all that and will not be wearing one is an insult to not only the CDC and Dr. Anthony Fauci, but to all the front line doctors, nurses and other health professionals throught the country.

[Bunty]

Sorry, not deeply political, just factual.. check out the briefing yourself. Perhaps he's not afraid of getting the virus, but I am. In the absence of a magical cure or vaccine, it seems prudent to wear face/mouth and nose protection to either stop one from spreading the virus if they should, unfortunately, have it or to prevent breathing in the virus. But to have Trump state in his lackidasical manner, that he's better than all that and will not be wearing one is an insult to not only the CDC and Dr. Anthony Fauci, but to all the front line doctors, nurses and other health professionals throught the country.

No wonder he doesn't feel a need to wear a mask. Unlike the rest of us people who are allowed access to him must first be given the new tests with results given in under 20 minutes.

[RedDollar]

Sorry, not deeply political, just factual.. check out the briefing yourself. Perhaps he's not afraid of getting the virus, but I am. In the absence of a magical cure or vaccine, it seems prudent to wear face/mouth and nose protection to either stop one from spreading the virus if they should, unfortunately, have it or to prevent breathing in the virus. But to have Trump state in his lackidasical manner, that he's better than all that and will not be wearing one is an insult to not only the CDC and Dr. Anthony Fauci, but to all the front line doctors, nurses and other health professionals throught the country.

Come on man, I listened to his comments, and he did not say it as your framing it. Its a RECOMMENDATION by the CDC, entirely voluntary ......... and Trump said the same thing. He said he would not wear one, but he said it was entirely up to the individual.

You make up your own mind. He's not playing messiah like Obama , and speak and have all the minions following his lead like sheep.

That's what he said . Quit politicizing wearing masks, which btw, none of the medical " elites " will flat out state , unequivocally, is necessary. Dr Scott Gottlieb, who is prominent on CNBC , has said for weeks that all a mask wil do is keep you from touching your face.

These medical people are all over the place ........... good grief.

[RustytheBailiff]

Come on man, I listened to his comments, and he did not say it as your framing it. Its a RECOMMENDATION by the CDC, entirely voluntary ......... and Trump said the same thing. He said he would not wear one, but he said it was entirely up to the individual.

You make up your own mind. He's not playing messiah like Obama , and speak and have all the minions following his lead like sheep.

That's what he said . Quit politicizing wearing masks, which btw, none of the medical " elites " will flat out state , unequivocally, is necessary. Dr Scott Gottlieb, who is prominent on CNBC , has said for weeks that all a mask wil do is keep you from touching your face.

These medical people are all over the place ........... good grief.

None of the medical elites, you say? Why doesn't Dr Anthony Fauci qualify as an elite doctor? This from the PBS News Hour: (full story here: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wh...readsAmericans should

"Americans should wear face masks as a way to help stifle the spread of COVID-19, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top doctors leading the public health fight against the coronavirus pandemic "

Stay safe....and wear a mask.

[PhiAlpha]

Nor does it help when the pretending president of the united states stands up and says that he will not be wearing a mask, but you can if you want to. What a F..king

how f*ing hard is it to post political comments on the political thread? Are some of you really too stupid to make the distinction???

[Teo9969]

In before the Pete deletes!

I'm claiming that as a registered trademark on this board :-P

[dankrutka]

Everyone should wear masks. The CDC and WHO has failed on this messaging. This article explains it clearly and now everyone is coming around: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/o...ace-masks.html

[catch22]

Everyone should wear masks. The CDC and WHO has failed on this messaging. This article explains it clearly and now everyone is coming around: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/o...ace-masks.html

This is absolutely crazy. Every single organization seems to have flubbed this pandemic. They specifically told us earlier it's not only unnecessary but somewhat useless against this. Now another about-face,

[SEMIweather]

This is absolutely crazy. Every single organization seems to have flubbed this pandemic. They specifically told us earlier it's not only unnecessary but somewhat useless against this. Now another about-face,

I'm convinced it's because they knew it was going to be hard enough to keep enough masks in stock for health care workers even without recommending that the general public wear them. Which, of course, the fact that we had (and are still having) such a shortage of PPE is yet another massive failure.

[Pete]

Updated numbers just released for Saturday.

[jerrywall]

This is absolutely crazy. Every single organization seems to have flubbed this pandemic. They specifically told us earlier it's not only unnecessary but somewhat useless against this. Now another about-face,

I think part of it was that folks were using masks as a replacement for social distancing and washing their hands. They didn't want masks to give folks a false sense of security.

[jn1780]

Updated numbers just released for Saturday.

Hospitalized is down today. That seems to be the only reliable indicator of spread since we dont really have nearly enough population testing.

[brian72]

Updated numbers just released for Saturday.

Is there a number on how many people have recovered? Is the 316 in the Hospital now? Or have there been people released? I saw where they are not counting the Negative test but only the Positive from Local Clinics. Is this true?

[jerrywall]

Hospitalized is down today. That seems to be the only reliable indicator of spread since we dont really have nearly enough population testing.

That and the deaths have been flat for 3 days, which is good.

[ahlokc]

Is there a number on how many people have recovered? Is the 316 in the Hospital now? Or have there been people released? I saw where they are not counting the Negative test but only the Positive from Local Clinics. Is this true?

As mentioned earlier in this thread check these reports for more detailed numbers https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/ex...-order-reports

OSDH reports positive test results from private labs and the State Public Health Lab. The only negative test results OSDH is reporting is from the State Public Health Lab.

Also google has made available their COVID19 Community Mobility Reports https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Don't know how often they will be updated or how long they will last but google says they will be available for a limited time as long as public health officials find them useful.

[jn1780]

I wonder how accurate recovered numbers are especially in the hot spots like NY. Do doctors really have time to follow up on patients when their dealing with hundreds of other patients or is there an assumption built in where after x amount of days a patient is considered recovered if they dont end up in the hospital?

[OKC Guy]

Is there a number on how many people have recovered? Is the 316 in the Hospital now? Or have there been people released? I saw where they are not counting the Negative test but only the Positive from Local Clinics. Is this true?

Its posted earlier in thread I think but hospitalized is not current its total since beginning. They need to add a current column plus add levels like ICU or intubated.

[jerrywall]

Its posted earlier in thread I think but hospitalized is not current its total since beginning. They need to add a current column plus add levels like ICU or intubated.

They have that info here -

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/ex...-order-reports

It does look like the reports come later than the basic data.

[Swake]

According to that we have a 9% death rate in Oklahoma. 38 deaths vs 383 recovered. That's really, really bad.

[OKC_Chipper]

According to that we have a 9% death rate in Oklahoma. 38 deaths vs 383 recovered. That's really, really bad.

That number quite literally means nothing.

[Bill Robertson]

According to that we have a 9% death rate in Oklahoma. 38 deaths vs 383 recovered. That's really, really bad.

But we really have no idea how many have recovered that had it and didn’t even know. How many have recovered after having minor symptoms only. So the true recovery and/or total case rate vs the death total is probably way less than 9%.

[soonerguru]

Hospitalized is down today. That seems to be the only reliable indicator of spread since we dont really have nearly enough population testing.

There are people who are hospitalized who may have not been tested. I know this was the case a week ago. Perhaps not now, but the head of the state medical association told The Oklahoman this week that there are deaths and hospitalizations that are not being counted.

[BBatesokc]

I think part of it was that folks were using masks as a replacement for social distancing and washing their hands. They didn't want masks to give folks a false sense of security.

I think they've known all along masks were needed. But they also knew we didn't have enough. Now it's just a mind game. Give the public something to make them feel like they are doing something proactive - "Here, put on a bandana. Best of luck to you."

[Teo9969]

Obviously the projections are only as good as the initial data. Given that the death rate is the *most* important, the first asterisk* you have to consider is what counts as death due to the virus. If a patient tests positive and while in the hospital a nurse/doctor administers a drug to which the patient is highly allergic and the patient dies, how is that counted? Assuming that we're doing an excellent job attributing the cause of the death then the following can be considered:

The two things from the data available that matter most are the death rate of those hospitalized and the per capita hospitalization. Positive/Negative don't really tell us much because 1. It relies on volume testing which has not been deployed for Covid almost anywhere in the world and 2. It does not tell us who is testing negative that has carried the virus before and may be immune.

They only started reporting on 4/1 the current hospitalized in OK which will be a super useful number going forward. Right now, we're looking at about a 23.5% 5-day trailing death rate against total hospitalized, but I assume that will go up as we begin to reach capacity. I'm not sure how long people are stuck in the hospital but it looks to be a pretty long time

So right now we're looking at a cumulative 8 in 100,000 being hospitalized and just under a quarter of those likely to die.

If by the end of April we can be at 100 in 100,000 or less cumulative hospitalized (A bit under 4k total people), and see that death rate come down just a little, then I think we could call that a success given our relatively late response to all of this.

[SEMIweather]

I think they've known all along masks were needed. But they also knew we didn't have enough. Now it's just a mind game. Give the public something to make them feel like they are doing something proactive - "Here, put on a bandana. Best of luck to you."

There's a lot of data to show that universal mask wearing helps keep transmission rates down. One of the top priorities for the government right now, IMO, should be to manufacture enough masks for health care workers ASAP, and then to continue manufacturing and rationing additional masks to the general public. It also needs to be made clear that people need to disinfect and/or heat whatever they're using as a mask between each use.