Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[soonerguru]

Do y'all (because it's happened multiple times recently, not just this once) not read previous posts? This was already posted in this thread, literally less than 3 hours ago - https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...94#post1112194

Oh, so you know how tens of thousands of people in our state feel having to repeat the same messages over and over to our governor.

[Teo9969]

Numbers just updated for Wed:

Pete, can you add a to the end of that spreadsheet a 5 day trailing relation of Deaths to Hospitalized. So for example, 2 deaths on 3/23 to 4 hospitalized on 3/19. I did this and of course the initial numbers are higher, but it looks like we're closer to a 20% death rate of those hospitalized after 5 days. If we extrapolated that number, we may expect to see a death toll on 4/5 of 219 x 20% = 44 people. But I think that's a super useful data point to understanding what our future looks like.

[happyday]

Can anyone tell me where I might buy just one mask to wear while I buy weekly groceries? It has been about 12 days since the public run on masks. Perhaps things are a bit different now?

[SEMIweather]

Not sure, but here is what I'm going with for a homemade mask until they are widely available. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ong-scientists

[BBatesokc]

Can anyone tell me where I might buy just one mask to wear while I buy weekly groceries? It has been about 12 days since the public run on masks. Perhaps things are a bit different now?

You can still get them on Amazon (surgical and N95). Many suppliers are prioritizing medical and LE first, but there are still many who sell to the public. They run $2-$5 PER MASK (N95). Masks are supposed to be single use with an 8-hour maximum wearability (though if you're wearing an N95 properly its very uncomfortable after about 45 minutes). If you're reusing it, the effectiveness goes down. I ordered a few in case my grandfather gets sick and I have to tend to him. Also was able to order sanitizer and those little alcohol embedded wipes for use on your phone, glasses, etc (about 2-3" square).

[catcherinthewry]

Here is another site that breaks down state numbers with every state on the same page so it is easy to compare OK to other states. Unfortunately, OK doesn't compare well. We are DFL in tests/million.
http://coronavirusapi.com

[Motley]

This is like tornado season multiplied by a million. However, we ask the same thing every year: are the weathermen overreacting on broadcasting warnings? Will this event be another disaster like the Moore tornadoes, or maybe it will be like that day last spring in which the warnings came for a full week, but relatively few lives and property were lost after all. Was it overblown or justified?

[Thomas Vu]

Tornadoes don't affect the national economy, much less the global one. So there's that.

[Laramie]

Are we (OKC) equipped to handle what's happening in New York. This isn't about playing favorites because N.Y has a Democrat as a Governor. Our President needs to step up. Our governor seems to be taking the right approach to brace Oklahoma's needs; my heart cries out for Dr. Calvin Sun and the team of physicians & health care workers in New York.

[catcherinthewry]

Will this event be another disaster like the Moore tornadoes, or maybe it will be like that day last spring in which the warnings came for a full week, but relatively few lives and property were lost after all. Was it overblown or justified?

The difference today is that we have the power to mitigate the effects of the outbreak by just taking this seriously and staying home. Tornadoes are going to go where they are going to go. This virus needs people to move. STF home, people.

[Anonymous.]

Go here https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

Scroll to the US map in the middle, and select from the top left Tests/Per Million.

Oklahoma is on another planet.

[SSEiYah]

You can still get them on Amazon (surgical and N95). Many suppliers are prioritizing medical and LE first, but there are still many who sell to the public. They run $2-$5 PER MASK (N95). Masks are supposed to be single use with an 8-hour maximum wearability (though if you're wearing an N95 properly its very uncomfortable after about 45 minutes). If you're reusing it, the effectiveness goes down. I ordered a few in case my grandfather gets sick and I have to tend to him. Also was able to order sanitizer and those little alcohol embedded wipes for use on your phone, glasses, etc (about 2-3" square).

I have not seen any 3M 82xx or 85xx N95 masks on Amazon available to the general public since January. What are available for the general public are KN95's from Chinese sellers. I'm sure they are far better than no mask at all however.

[AP]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e=articleShare

[Pete]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e=articleShare

From that article:

[TheTravellers]

Not sure, but here is what I'm going with for a homemade mask until they are widely available. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ong-scientists

So if the virus is spread through respiratory droplets (sneezing, coughing), aerosolization (from a dental or intubation procedure, et al), and surface contact (last I heard, it lives a day on paper/cardboard, 3 days on plastic, glass, steel), then what good does a homemade mask that doesn't protect against any of those things do? Yes, I'm being serious - I've heard that homemade masks do not fit tight enough to filter the droplets or aerosol out. And wearing a mask comes with a big risk of someone adjusting it constantly, therefore touching their face. So are homemade masks worse than nothing (if I don't wear a mask to the grocery store, I'm aware of not touching my face and don't do it, but if I wear a mask and it's out of fit, I have to adjust it, even though it still might not provide protection)?

From what I've heard, the most important things to do are to wash your hands after touching anything in the outside world, don't touch your face until you've washed your hands, stay 6 ft away (respiratory droplets from an uncovered cough can go about 4-5 ft, I understand, but uncovered sneezes can go way further than that, though).

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-masks/609235/

[catcherinthewry]

The difference today is that we have the power to mitigate the effects of the outbreak by just taking this seriously and staying home. Tornadoes are going to go where they are going to go. This virus needs people to move. STF home, people.

The other thing to note is that the better we self isolate the fewer infections and deaths we will have. Unfortunately, there will be those that see the smaller numbers and say, "See, I told you it wasn't a big deal" when it was precisely because of those actions that it wasn't a big deal.
The cynic in me, however, doubts that we as a state will take the steps necessary to bend the curve and that combined with our underlying health problems (diabetes, obesity etc.) will make this a catastrophe. I hope I'm wrong.

[The Shadow]

Here is some very important information from Dr. Larry Bookman's Q & A yesterday.

For the last few weeks, Dr. Larry Bookman, an Oklahoma City physician and president of the Oklahoma State Medical Association, has been speaking on various platforms about COVID-19 and challenges faced by the state.

On Wednesday, he talked to The Oklahoman about COVID-19 deaths and shortages of critical equipment. Questions and answers have been edited for brevity and clarity.

Q: There has been a lot of discussion about how the confirmed case numbers from the Oklahoma State Health Department don’t represent the scope of infection. Are deaths also underreported?

A: Our reporting — today, 719 positive cases with 30 deaths — is all underreporting. The experts have said, statistically, you can expect a tenfold number to be the actual number of cases. So in our state, 719 times 10 — there’s 7,000 patients out there that are carrying the virus.

The number of deaths that are directly attributable to COVID-19 are only those that have tested positive and have died, usually of respiratory illness

What’s not being figured in is that we know now that even those who get better pulmonary-wise often will die from cardiac damage caused by the virus.

This is well documented and now coming out in the literature more — that many people beyond what we see as dying from respiratory illnesses are dying afterwards — a week or two weeks later — from COVID-19-induced heart injury.

And so those numbers, no, are not being included in the 30 deaths. Those 30 are people who have been in the hospital, generally on ventilators, who we tested and were positive and then ended up dying. So that’s all we’re looking at is our hospitalized patients who have died in the hospital with classic symptoms. But there are far more than that. But we don’t really know how many more there are.

You can read the rest on the Oklahoman website.

[Pete]

Numbers just updated for Thursday.

[ShadowStrings]

[jerrywall]

Here is some very important information from Dr. Larry Bookman's Q & A yesterday.

For the last few weeks, Dr. Larry Bookman, an Oklahoma City physician and president of the Oklahoma State Medical Association, has been speaking on various platforms about COVID-19 and challenges faced by the state.

On Wednesday, he talked to The Oklahoman about COVID-19 deaths and shortages of critical equipment. Questions and answers have been edited for brevity and clarity.

Q: There has been a lot of discussion about how the confirmed case numbers from the Oklahoma State Health Department don’t represent the scope of infection. Are deaths also underreported?

A: Our reporting — today, 719 positive cases with 30 deaths — is all underreporting. The experts have said, statistically, you can expect a tenfold number to be the actual number of cases. So in our state, 719 times 10 — there’s 7,000 patients out there that are carrying the virus.

The number of deaths that are directly attributable to COVID-19 are only those that have tested positive and have died, usually of respiratory illness

What’s not being figured in is that we know now that even those who get better pulmonary-wise often will die from cardiac damage caused by the virus.

This is well documented and now coming out in the literature more — that many people beyond what we see as dying from respiratory illnesses are dying afterwards — a week or two weeks later — from COVID-19-induced heart injury.

And so those numbers, no, are not being included in the 30 deaths. Those 30 are people who have been in the hospital, generally on ventilators, who we tested and were positive and then ended up dying. So that’s all we’re looking at is our hospitalized patients who have died in the hospital with classic symptoms. But there are far more than that. But we don’t really know how many more there are.

You can read the rest on the Oklahoman website.

This fits a lot of what's being said in Italy as well..

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italys-...ed-11585767179

[Greggo71]

This is like tornado season multiplied by a million. However, we ask the same thing every year: are the weathermen overreacting on broadcasting warnings? Will this event be another disaster like the Moore tornadoes, or maybe it will be like that day last spring in which the warnings came for a full week, but relatively few lives and property were lost after all. Was it overblown or justified?

And just like tornado season, many Oklahomans should not hesitate to pop a xanax to calm their nerves.

[Pete]

Press release:

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Mayor Holt to hold news conference at 1 p.m. Friday

4/2/2020

Mayor Holt will extend the state of emergency to April 30 to help limit the spread of COVID-19 during a news conference at 1 p.m. on Friday. The news conference will be closed for safety. News outlets can get the feed from Facebook at City of OKC or OKC-County Health Department.

[PhiAlpha]

I've been told the Tulsa area Walmarts have started restricting the amount of shoppers that will be allowed in the store at one time and reducing to only one entrance. If that hasn't happened hear yet, I would guess its coming.

[betts]

I've been told the Tulsa area Walmarts have started restricting the amount of shoppers that will be allowed in the store at one time and reducing to only one entrance. If that hasn't happened hear yet, I would guess its coming.

I honestly don’t understand why everyone isn’t ordering online. Why risk a trip inside a store? But at least someone is getting wise. It’s sad that people don’t care enough to protect others, even if they don’t care about themselves. It’s no one’s constitutional right to infect others.

[Teo9969]

I honestly don’t understand why everyone isn’t ordering online. Why risk a trip inside a store? But at least someone is getting wise. It’s sad that people don’t care enough to protect others, even if they don’t care about themselves. It’s no one’s constitutional right to infect others.

Perhaps they don't have internet?