Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Teo9969]

The most recent chart (I'll have to go find it) I saw we are still spiking higher than them... we're not leveling off. We're just behind them. As of now, we should expect to have a similar situation in about a week.

If we grow to 50,000 cases on day X and Italy had 25,000 cases ton their day X, then we had less cases than Italy because a raw number is miscontextualized. Divide all of our numbers by 5 and that paints a more realistic picture.

ON EDIT: A more realistic picture if we're using Italy as a reference point for where we are at in this process.

[mkjeeves]

So many variables...I don't know that any comparison makes sense.

For instance, population density in the US is 94 people per square mile. Italy 532. OKC Metro 220.

[Teo9969]

So many variables...I don't know that any comparison makes sense.

For instance, population density in the US is 94 people per square mile. Italy 532.

I could get down with comparing NYC to Italy, but not the US as a whole.

And we continue to find that there are large number of factors in play that we need to understand better (i.e. the pollution argument things like the blood type determining risk factor etc.)

Hopefully we have some news this week that can help alleviate the concerns that we are unable to treat or manage a widespread infection without a curative vaccine and it sounds like some of the more recent information with smaller insights are giving us a shot to be able to release a wide swath of the public back into the world.

This is probably the one time you will hear me be glad that we are a more sprawled out city, because that should help us return to a more normal life quicker.

[SoonerDave]

Updated numbers for Saturday 3/21:

The great trend in these numbers, one I obviously hopes persists, is that the rate of increase in positives is flattening/decreasing as *more* test results return. This, to me, is very hopeful! If that rate of increase continues to slow, it definitely a positive for OK!

In particular, we went from 44 to 49, then from 49 to 53. That's a percentage delta from 11.3% to about 8.1%. That's the direction we want it to go!

[Rover]

Wondering why the heck so many are going to the grocery stores as couples, with kids, etc. need to designate a shopper. Stores limiting numbers of shoppers and there’s really not a reason for social shopping

[SoonerDave]

Wondering why the heck so many are going to the grocery stores as couples, with kids, etc. need to designate a shopper. Stores limiting numbers of shoppers and there’s really not a reason for social shopping

Some folks may not have options. I went this morning for what I hope is the last time for at least a week. Went to Crest at SW 104 and May and it was really busy, and lots of "group* shoppers. Fortunately, I was able to do the " distance" issue fairly easily.

[dankrutka]

To the discussion on the last page, here are some charts that show both our trajectory of cases and deaths.

This Biuzzfeed site is a week old, but helpful: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-world-compare

The Atlantic has really good state-by-state data: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...merica/608413/

What are some other good sites for tracking COVID-19?

[Pete]

What are some other good sites for tracking COVID-19?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Edmond Hausfrau]

coronavirus.jhu.edu
That's the John Hopkins site. Solid science only.

[TheTravellers]

Wondering why the heck so many are going to the grocery stores as couples, with kids, etc. need to designate a shopper. Stores limiting numbers of shoppers and there’s really not a reason for social shopping

Both me and my wife go (no kids, so it's just us), have done that forever, because there are always decisions to be made for recipes we're making - what if they don't have that meat, they're out of this specific veggie that goes in it, do we adapt the recipe or blow it off and fix something else, do we try another store, now what do we fix, let's figure this out..... Saves us a ton of time calling each other and taking pics of things and sending them and asking "what about this?" or "they're out of this Lean Cuisine, what do you want instead?" if we went alone.

[BBatesokc]

Wondering why the heck so many are going to the grocery stores as couples, with kids, etc. need to designate a shopper. Stores limiting numbers of shoppers and there’s really not a reason for social shopping

I used to do a bulk of the shopping. But we also would shout out items to Alexa as needed and a couple of times a week I'd go to WalMart and pull up my Alexa shopping list. However, I'd do the shopping at about 4am and the wife isn't about to go with me then.

Now that Walmart doesn't open until after I'm usually at work, we shop together because I go during normal business times. We won't stop going together until where we go institutes a limit on the number of people allowed inside at any one time.

I personally don't get the logic behind WalMart shortening their hours. They've always restocked in the middle of the night and at least at that time it allowed some people to shop when hardly any other shoppers were present.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Both me and my wife go (no kids, so it's just us), have done that forever, because there are always decisions to be made for recipes we're making - what if they don't have that meat, they're out of this specific veggie that goes in it, do we adapt the recipe or blow it off and fix something else, do we try another store, now what do we fix, let's figure this out..... Saves us a ton of time calling each other and taking pics of things and sending them and asking "what about this?" or "they're out of this Lean Cuisine, what do you want instead?" if we went alone.

I just had my first laugh in days! (Thanks)
This sounds ohhh so familiar over here!

[Bill Robertson]

I just had my first laugh in days! (Thanks)
This sounds ohhh so familiar over here!

Here too! We’ve shopped together since we’ve been married.

[mkjeeves]

State by state "Point Of No Return" to hospital overload

Oklahoma: https://covidactnow.org/state/OK

[BoulderSooner]

3 months is well past the point of no return for the economy

[G.Walker]

My 2 Cents:

The main issue is that we are 2 weeks behind the virus, before we implemented measures to suppress the spread. The federal government is now playing catch up in a reactive rather than preventative measure. You can't fight this type of virus from the hospital room and behind a desk. You need people on the ground actually going to communities & homes, testing people, and providing treatment. Other countries, like China, South Korea, and Japan had a mobile task force on the ground, going to communities, homes, and businesses, sanitizing and testing. They set up checkpoints on major thoroughfares taking people's temperature.

Being in Oklahoma we have an advantage of not being so populating and congested like bigger cities, making it easier for us to contain the virus. If Governor Stitt will quit just following Trump's footsteps and implement new practices, Oklahoma can beat the virus. Stitt needs to use the resources available and set out mobile task forces in the most infected communities and provide testing and care. Disinfect communities while everyone is inside. Order the directive for the whole state to lock down for 14 days. Set up mobile hospital tents now in major communities in OKC & Tulsa now, not when we get overrun.

[Laramie]

[SEMIweather]

My 2 Cents:

The main issue is that we are 2 weeks behind the virus, before we implemented measures to suppress the spread. The federal government is now playing catch up in a reactive rather than preventative measure. You can't fight this type of virus from the hospital room and behind a desk. You need people on the ground actually going to communities & homes, testing people, and providing treatment. Other countries, like China, South Korea, and Japan had a mobile task force on the ground, going to communities, homes, and businesses, sanitizing and testing. They set up checkpoints on major thoroughfares taking people's temperature.

Being in Oklahoma we have an advantage of not being so populating and congested like bigger cities, making it easier for us to contain the virus. If Governor Stitt will quit just following Trump's footsteps and implement new practices, Oklahoma can beat the virus. Stitt needs to use the resources available and set out mobile task forces in the most infected communities and provide testing and care. Disinfect communities while everyone is inside. Order the directive for the whole state to lock down for 14 days. Set up mobile hospital tents now in major communities in OKC & Tulsa now, not when we get overrun.

This is correct. While I consider the current shutdowns to be necessary, they are useless unless we take the time they are giving us to vastly improve our testing. That's the only way we get our lives (and by extension, the economy) back to anything resembling normal anytime soon.

I feel like I've mentioned this half a dozen times before at this point, but regardless of whether or not the government was mandating these shutdowns, people are just going to start locking themselves down on their own accord en masse as case numbers, hospitalizations, and deaths continue to skyrocket. I agree that there's no way we can expect people to stay inside and everything to remain closed for more than a couple of months, much less the 12-18 months it'll likely take to develop a vaccine, and the way we get out of this current state as soon as possible is by developing the testing system needed to make people feel comfortable about leaving their houses and living some sort of normal life once again.

[Bunty]

a much better plan would be for everyone to just go back to normal life

Okay, please name a country where COVID-19 cases are skyrocketing, yet the country's response to it is to continue on as normal. And how their hospitals are doing.

[Bunty]

From what I’ve read, all an infected person has to do to infect someone is merely breath and the virus is airborne infecting those up to 5+ feet away. It also can linger in the air for hours and live on surfaces for days. With proper cleaning of tables I fail to see how allowing dine in would be any worse then what we are currently doing.

If the shutdown didn't include barber shops, then I hope the barbers are wearing M95 masks.

[BBatesokc]

If the shutdown didn't include barber shops, then I hope the barbers are wearing M95 masks.

Where would they get these masks? The mask doesn't address your eyes - which is an exposed part of the body everybody seems to just ignore and is a potential infection point for the billions of droplets in the air.

[Bunty]

Wondering why the heck so many are going to the grocery stores as couples, with kids, etc. need to designate a shopper. Stores limiting numbers of shoppers and there’s really not a reason for social shopping

Maybe because they're not hoarding. I'd say it's time for the hoarders to stay at home. Supposedly they were hoarding to build up a good supply so they could stop going to the stores and exposing themselves.

[Bunty]

Where would they get these masks? The mask doesn't address your eyes - which is an exposed part of the body everybody seems to just ignore and is a potential infection point for the billions of droplets in the air.

Good points. I think I will venture with cutting my own hair.

[SEMIweather]

Good points. I think I will venture with cutting my own hair.

Lol, I haven't had a haircut since July and I am already regretting not getting it at least trimmed a little bit before this all blew up. Might have to order some clippers and do it myself if this goes on long enough.

[mugofbeer]

I'm going man-bun.