Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[HangryHippo]

Thanks. Far too many people going out and about IMO. Glad to see places starting to close. Kohl's, TJ maxx, Marshalls. In Michigan and Indiana even Dentist offices have closed. Factories are closing up there. Seems like to me people in Oklahoma are taking a ho hum approach to all this.

Many Oklahomans, while very nice, aren't exactly the brightest people...

[jonny d]

Does anyone know, are restaurants in cities such as Moore, Edmond, Yukon, Midwest City, and Del City also just doing takeout/delivery, or are their dining areas still open?

I think MWC and Del City are the only ones with dining rooms still open.

[Bellaboo]

Thanks. Far too many people going out and about IMO. Glad to see places starting to close. Kohl's, TJ maxx, Marshalls. In Michigan and Indiana even Dentist offices have closed. Factories are closing up there. Seems like to me people in Oklahoma are taking a ho hum approach to all this.

The ODA has shut down dentist offices 2 days ago.

[SEMIweather]

I think MWC and Del City are the only ones with dining rooms still open.

Thanks for the info.

[kukblue1]

The ODA has shut down dentist offices 2 days ago.

HUH Dental Depot in Yukon has been open my friend went yesterday and today.

[mugofbeer]

My Dentist friend in MI can open for emergency procedures.

[Stew]

I think MWC and Del City are the only ones with dining rooms still open.

The Midwest City Council has scheduled an emergency meeting tomorrow, March 20 at 7 a.m. The council will consider an emergency ordinance that would limit hours and procedures for restaurants and bars.
The proposed ordinance includes:
- All bars and similar venues that do not serve food must be closed from noon March 20 until April 12.
- All bars and similar venues with on premise food may serve take-out or delivery food, or pre-packaged alcohol (permitted under state law). They must otherwise be closed to the public from noon March 20 until April 12.
-Restaurants with dine-in service can only serve customers at every other table in the dining area. Signs stating “CLOSED FOR SERVICE” must be placed on the other tables, clearly indicating which are for dine in use.
- All tables used for service must be at least 6 feet apart.
- All tables used for service should have “sufficient space” for the party being seated to distance themselves while being served.
- Each table may have up to 6 seated customers.
- Restaurant owners or operators could face a fine of up to $200 and revocation/suspension of their municipal permit for up to 1 year for violation of the ordinance. Any patrons or staff present may also be cited for up to $200.

[kukblue1]

The Midwest City Council has scheduled an emergency meeting tomorrow, March 20 at 7 a.m. The council will consider an emergency ordinance that would limit hours and procedures for restaurants and bars.
The proposed ordinance includes:
- All bars and similar venues that do not serve food must be closed from noon March 20 until April 12.
- All bars and similar venues with on premise food may serve take-out or delivery food, or pre-packaged alcohol (permitted under state law). They must otherwise be closed to the public from noon March 20 until April 12.
-Restaurants with dine-in service can only serve customers at every other table in the dining area. Signs stating “CLOSED FOR SERVICE” must be placed on the other tables, clearly indicating which are for dine in use.
- All tables used for service must be at least 6 feet apart.
- All tables used for service should have “sufficient space” for the party being seated to distance themselves while being served.
- Each table may have up to 6 seated customers.
- Restaurant owners or operators could face a fine of up to $200 and revocation/suspension of their municipal permit for up to 1 year for violation of the ordinance. Any patrons or staff present may also be cited for up to $200.

WOW WOW WOW. Moved here 8 years ago didn't realize how Dumb this state was until now. At someone point we are going to get to the point where everything will have to close. So why not just do it now and hope 2 weeks things are better and have more test. The longer we wait to close everything the long we will have to be closed. Would you rather be closed for 2 weeks or 1-2 months.

[OKC Guy]

WOW WOW WOW. Moved here 8 years ago didn't realize how Dumb this state was until now. At someone point we are going to get to the point where everything will have to close. So why not just do it now and hope 2 weeks things are better and have more test. The longer we wait to close everything the long we will have to be closed. Would you rather be closed for 2 weeks or 1-2 months.

I don’t appreciate you calling the whole state dumb thats a bogus gaslighting label would hope you reconsider use of words

[kukblue1]

I don’t appreciate you calling the whole state dumb thats a bogus gaslighting label would hope you reconsider use of words

Would soft be a better word. I mean after all we are so soft when it comes to other parts of your lives any more. People don't like hearing the cold hard truth. The cold hard truth is we need to close everything. Our state thinks well if we don't test anyone then we will have very low numbers and that is a soft way to be approaching all this

[OKC Guy]

Would soft be a better word. I mean after all we are so soft when it comes to other parts of your lives any more. People don't like hearing the cold hard truth. The cold hard truth is we need to close everything. Our state thinks well if we don't test anyone then we will have very low numbers and that is a soft way to be approaching all this

Regardless all that, you labeled a whole state dumb. Not cool

[TheTravellers]

I don’t appreciate you calling the whole state dumb thats a bogus gaslighting label would hope you reconsider use of words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nal_attainment

34th in high school degrees, 44th in bachelor's and advanced degrees, seems fairly accurate to me (at least going by education levels).

[OKC Guy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nal_attainment

34th in high school degrees, 44th in bachelor's and advanced degrees, seems fairly accurate to me (at least going by education levels).

Just stop!

The topic he was talking about was MWC and a few other cities. He took what they are doing and made that apply to the whole state and called all Okies dumb. Your post is not relevant to his so why add to it? His application of dumb is different than your google search of education levels jfc dude just stop!

My point stands he called every Okie dumb for no reason!

[dankrutka]

But what I’m asking is if that’s all it takes then what is the difference between ordering to go and sitting down? If distance is the issue then shut down some tables and keep a smaller number of them open for use...?

DISTANCE IS THE DIFFERENCE! DISTANCE. How is this so hard to understand? I have been carrying out/ordering out for days and haven't even come within 10 feet of a person in the last 5 days besides my wife. We don't even do a hand off. I ask them to set it down and then I come and pick it up. In a restaurant I would always be close to people in a closed environment. It's not comparable.

[dankrutka]

So many don’t want to believe or simply don’t understand how or financial system works. If we as a county do what we are currently doing for 30 more days we will be I. A Great Depression type environment. Do it for 60 more days. And our way of life might be over for ever.

I agree that this is a serious concern. However, there's some hypocrisy since I can insert "health/medical" for "economic/financial" and this statement applies to your comments.

[dankrutka]

By the way, really good article on why the you-don't-need-masks, only-medical-professionals-need-masks message was totally wrong. I fell for it and repeated it and it was the wrong message: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/o...ace-masks.html

[cliff.ferguson]

HUH Dental Depot in Yukon has been open my friend went yesterday and today.

They just made a recommendation and not a mandate. They aren’t a regulating board. The board of dentistry recommended to follow the ODA/ADA recommendations. I think they are trying to avoid legal issues.

So you will see some offices open. IMO all offices should be closed and only open to true dental emergencies. I am on call for my patients, but my office is closed until April 6 (at least). The governor of Washington just mandated all dental offices to remain closed except for emergencies until May 18th.

The problem is this virus can be suspended in air by dental instruments. It’s hard to prescreen patients because they can be asymptomatic carriers. Dental professionals are at great risk of contracting the virus without taking airborne precautions. In addition, hospitals desperately need masks and proper PPE. We should be closed to alleviate the strain on hospitals. I will see true emergencies only to help those patients that would otherwise go to the ER putting additional strain on hospitals. Closing my office was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do and I am trying to help my employees as long as I can, but it’s also the right thing to do IMO. Tough times.

[cliff.ferguson]

So when I see people not social distancing, it can be extremely frustrating. People are losing their business, their livelihoods and if we all don’t do this now and all together, it won’t work. We will slowly bleed out. IMO we need to shutdown everything. Rip the bandaid off to help stop the spread and flatten the curve. This would help businesses as well imo.

[OKC Guy]

DISTANCE IS THE DIFFERENCE! DISTANCE. How is this so hard to understand? I have been carrying out/ordering out for days and haven't even come within 10 feet of a person in the last 5 days besides my wife. We don't even do a hand off. I ask them to set it down and then I come and pick it up. In a restaurant I would always be close to people in a closed environment. It's not comparable.

How do we reconcile grocery shopping? They are now and will stay packed every day.

[SEMIweather]

How do we reconcile grocery shopping? They are now and will stay packed every day.

Need to limit how many people can go into the store at one time. Maybe let people sign up online and get a timeslot. Place markers at the checkout lines to ensure that people are standing six feet apart. I'm sure there are other ideas that I am not thinking of, but I do agree with your point, there are too many people in grocery stores at the same time right now.

Also, this is entirely my opinion, but now is the time to be ordering groceries online, if you're able. Going grocery shopping is unironically one of my favorite things to do in normal times, but I'm ordering everything off of Amazon for now. Our hospitals are likely about to be overwhelmed and you really want to limit your exposure to that as much as possible. If you're out and about right now, get infected, and that infection results in you needing to go to a hospital two weeks from now, that is not going to be a good situation, so take whatever steps you can to prevent it. Obviously nothing is going to be perfect, there are still going to be people handling my grocery order at different steps in the supply chain, but it's just about minimizing risk.

[mugofbeer]

WOW WOW WOW. Moved here 8 years ago didn't realize how Dumb this state was until now. At someone point we are going to get to the point where everything will have to close. So why not just do it now and hope 2 weeks things are better and have more test. The longer we wait to close everything the long we will have to be closed. Would you rather be closed for 2 weeks or 1-2 months.

Neither time period is guaranteed and not every business is geared solely for takeout food. Either way, closing the dining room severely damages the ability for the restaurant to ever open again. The COVID rate in OK isnt as high as other places so it may not be a necessity to resort to this action. But, while it may be in OKC, it may not be in Ft. Gibson or Woodward.

Its not being dumb or stupid. Oklahoma isnt just Tulsa and OKC. Imposing statewide measures may kill off hundreds of small town businesses completely unnecessarily.

[TheTravellers]

How do we reconcile grocery shopping? They are now and will stay packed every day.

Went today and Uptown in The Village and Homeland south of it were not packed at all, we were the only ones in our checkout line at Uptown and did self checkout at Homeland (they really need to get rid of the "item not bagged" crap, I thought everybody had done away with that) and were the only ones at that register. Only about 2-3 people per aisle at Uptown and 3-4 at Homeland.

[dankrutka]

How do we reconcile grocery shopping? They are now and will stay packed every day.

I have done this too without human contact: we order groceries (which are left at our door) or pick them (put in our backseat of our car). I followed the experts reports so I picked up some supplies 4 weeks ago to spread out the demand. So, we haven't had to pick up too much recently.

You do your best. Go at off peak hours if you have to go in a store. Honor and encourage social distancing in lines by spreading out.

[mugofbeer]

DISTANCE IS THE DIFFERENCE! DISTANCE. How is this so hard to understand? I have been carrying out/ordering out for days and haven't even come within 10 feet of a person in the last 5 days besides my wife. We don't even do a hand off. I ask them to set it down and then I come and pick it up. In a restaurant I would always be close to people in a closed environment. It's not comparable.

^^^^

[BoulderSooner]

So 11 million dead is a worthwhile price to pay to save the economy while we wait 18 months for (hopefully) a vaccine? You might feel that way until the victims are people you love. I don’t see any easy answers here.

for one if everyone in the cournty got infected there would not be 11million dead ...

but lets say that is the correct number ...

in 90 days from today with the same economic activity we have currently this entire courntry will be in Martial law and unemployment will top 50%

it would go down hill from there ...

and that would cause far far more than 11 mil deaths ...


the potential economic disaster could be far far worse than the great depression ..