2020 Oklahoma City Aviation Thread

[gopokes88]

I would imagine the number of people flying to Dallas for a weekend from OKC or Tulsa (or Stillwater) is pretty small. It’s a 3.5 hour drive from OKC and 4.5 hours from Stillwater/Tulsa plus you have your car. There is definitely business traffic during the week. Most are still likely flying to DFW for connections.

Do you have any idea how many rich Dallas sorority girls are at OSU?

[AP]

^Very true. I knew quite a few people in school who would fly home to Dallas for the weekend instead of driving.

[damonsmuz]

Was flying out of OKC today and the people at United were working a Sun Country flight. Had no idea that Sun Country had charters here. Where do they fly?

[catch22]

Was flying out of OKC today and the people at United were working a Sun Country flight. Had no idea that Sun Country had charters here. Where do they fly?

Usually casino charters to Laughlin.

[no1cub17]

Was flying out of OKC today and the people at United were working a Sun Country flight. Had no idea that Sun Country had charters here. Where do they fly?

Looks like they flew to Gulfport/Biloxi yesterday:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...905Z/KOKC/KGPT

I had no idea these flights existed, and can't even find anything on the internet. Must be a private charter.

[catch22]

Looks like they flew to Gulfport/Biloxi yesterday:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...905Z/KOKC/KGPT

I had no idea these flights existed, and can't even find anything on the internet. Must be a private charter.

Usually casinos will comp them to their frequent gamblers. Or comp the stay if you cover airfare.

[catch22]

Casino Express does some

https://casinosexpresstours.com/16-reservations.html

[gopokes88]

https://oklahoman.com/article/565612...ome-new-routes

[Bunty]

Good news out of Stillwater Regional Airport. Passenger count was up 8% in 2019 vs 2018. Stilly only has service to DFW on AA, but the fact that AA is increasing service out of OKC and 58,000 passengers flew out of SWO last year on AA shows that the love for AA in Oklahoma is strong. I wonder who is flying out of Stillwater,though. People that would've flown out of OKC or TUL?

https://www.poncacitynow.com/stillwa...enger-traffic/

Hopefully, another destination, such as Chicago can be added in the near future and encourage more passengers. Manhattan, KS airport passenger count was 70,705 in 2018 and offers DFW and Chicago.

[BG918]

https://www.poncacitynow.com/stillwa...enger-traffic/

Hopefully, another destination, such as Chicago can be added in the near future and encourage more passengers. Manhattan, KS airport passenger count was 70,705 in 2018 and offers DFW and Chicago.

I would think either ORD on AA or DEN on United are possible future adds from SWO. United is going to be starting a large expansion from DEN once they get their new gates and routes like these could be part of that expansion.

[gopokes88]

Burns Hargis said he wants ORD next but the city of Stillwater has to get the terminal built first. Both the Dallas and ORD flights would leave really close together so 2 gates are needed.

[BoulderSooner]

Usually casinos will comp them to their frequent gamblers. Or comp the stay if you cover airfare.

yep the Beau Rivage Casino resort has a charter comp flight out of Okc 2-4 times a year

[gopokes88]

February will have good numbers, or at least should, because of the extra day.

[catch22]

Tomorrow night united will load in systemwide network cuts for the april schedule. 10% domestic, 20% international. Will be interesting to see what gets trimmed out of OKC.

[runOKC]

Catch - any United cuts for OKC?

[catch22]

Catch - any United cuts for OKC?

Schedule uploads tonight (usually every friday) around midnight central time

[catch22]

Catch - any United cuts for OKC?

On first glance it appears like OKC made it without any cuts. I didn't look too deep into it though. I also don't know UA's strategy for their 10% domestic cut. That won't be clear until I see what is happening in other markets. Their strategy may be to keep service in as many markets as possible but perform what is called "day of week reductions". For example, cutting an OKC-ORD frequency on tuesday and wednesday. Reducing a OKC-DEN on Saturday. Reducing a frequency to IAH on Sunday, etc.

To be clear that is just an example not what I have seen. That preserves the schedule as much as possible while trimming capacity. They may make broader cuts.

[no1cub17]

Looks like AA's OKC-PHL is down to 1x daily for the summer, pretty sure they'd planned for 2x daily prior to the recent developments.

Unrelated but I'm guessing the airlines aren't too worried about rushing the MAX into service at this point!

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Some really good prices on airline Tix out of OKC, and all the airlines doing no fee on changes if ticket booked before March 31.
Don't fly if you are sick, but if you are well then round trip into Vail/Aspen for under $250 is a bargain.

[gopokes88]

February is up. Decent growth. Probably the last month of growth for a few months.

SW off 5%
AA up 10%

https://flyokc.com/sites/default/fil...nplanement.pdf

[jdizzle]

AA is going to overtake SW soon, it seems!

[catch22]

February is up. Decent growth. Probably the last month of growth for a few months.

SW off 5%
AA up 10%

https://flyokc.com/sites/default/fil...nplanement.pdf

If you account for the extra day February was down slightly compared to last year.

[gopokes88]

If you account for the extra day February was down slightly compared to last year.

We’ll take the Ws when we can get them. March will be a bloodbath at $30 oil and the virus

[catch22]

We’ll take the Ws when we can get them. March will be a bloodbath at $30 oil and the virus

Right. Just pointing out that it is an artificial number. March will be fine. We (UA) are holding on to the low 70% load factors right now systemwide which is amazing given the circumstances.

April bookings are down 70% systemwide domestic and greater than 100% international (Passengers are canceling itineraries). For comparison, United's future booking were down 40% following 9/11.

April will be the true bloodbath. 30% domestic load factors will be tough.

Edit: by fine i mean relative to april and may

[catch22]

Tomorrow's avg load factor.

OKC-DEN 82%
OKC-IAH 66%
OKC-IAD 71%
OKC-ORD 61%
OKC-SFO 53%

Not good but far from terrible for the moment.