Oklahoma City, In the Press

[Plutonic Panda]

Okay so discretions be damned let’s just mandate every cop issues citations for merely a mile per hour over the speed limit. Let me know how that proposal works out

[Rover]

Okay so discretions be damned let’s just mandate every cop issues citations for merely a mile per hour over the speed limit. Let me know how that proposal works out

LOL. It is mandated now. It's the law. So, we just need to acknowledge that we believe the law is whatever the legal enforcer says it is and give them discretion over certain laws, classes of laws, or just everything. Is a gram of coke enforceable... an oz? Is it whatever the cop says it is? One mile over? 10 miles over? Stealing $50? $1,000.

We either have laws for a reason, or we should amend or get rid of them. It shouldn't be a guessing game or a game of cat and mouse. Cops shouldn't decide if red cars get tickets at 5 over and blue ones don't. Or on the basis of who's driving. Or whether they are from out of state. They aren't supposed to have discretion to enforce or not enforce legitimate laws. If the speed limits are too low, then pass a damn bill to get them raised.

[Plutonic Panda]

I disagree with you but as I said try and bring fourth a proposal to mandate a citation for drivers merely going a mile per hour above the limit and let me know how that works out for you.

[jerrywall]

Yeah, I don't really want to live in a world where the police have no discretion to execute their job. Speed up a bit to quickly move past what you perceive as a dangerous driver and go a few miles over the speed limit? Ticket! Have your cruise control set for the speed limit, and come over the top of the hill and accidently go a couple of miles over? Ticket! Drive perfectly and safely every day, and get pulled over for doing 4 mph over? No warning! Ticket!

What a wonderful world.

Officers can look at a number of factors when deciding to issue a ticket. They can even issue a ticket if someone is technically under the speed limit, but is driving in an unsafe way compared to relative speed of the traffic on the road (if everyone is going 30 and you fly through going 55, weaving through traffic, for example). I prefer a system where the enforcers can take multiple factors into account. The world isn't black and white (and this from someone who is colorblind).

[Rover]

Yeah, I don't really want to live in a world where the police have no discretion to execute their job. Speed up a bit to quickly move past what you perceive as a dangerous driver and go a few miles over the speed limit? Ticket! Have your cruise control set for the speed limit, and come over the top of the hill and accidently go a couple of miles over? Ticket! Drive perfectly and safely every day, and get pulled over for doing 4 mph over? No warning! Ticket!

What a wonderful world.

Officers can look at a number of factors when deciding to issue a ticket. They can even issue a ticket if someone is technically under the speed limit, but is driving in an unsafe way compared to relative speed of the traffic on the road (if everyone is going 30 and you fly through going 55, weaving through traffic, for example). I prefer a system where the enforcers can take multiple factors into account. The world isn't black and white (and this from someone who is colorblind).

I agree. But I would love to see how many tickets on OK highways are actually given for going 5, or even 10 mph over. We hear some anecdote about some friend of a friend and we extrapolate it. In reality, I believe most people complaining are chronic speeders who believe the law does not apply to them or they just know better. EVERYONE thinks they are a good driver. However, I know plenty who regularly speed and run stop lights and red lights if they think its okay. BTW, my wife was nearly killed by such a driver.

If you want faster speed limits, go lobby for higher limits, don't just ignore them.

[jerrywall]

I agree. But I would love to see how many tickets on OK highways are actually given for going 5, or even 10 mph over. We hear some anecdote about some friend of a friend and we extrapolate it. In reality, I believe most people complaining are chronic speeders who believe the law does not apply to them or they just know better. EVERYONE thinks they are a good driver. However, I know plenty who regularly speed and run stop lights and red lights if they think its okay. BTW, my wife was nearly killed by such a driver.

If you want faster speed limits, go lobby for higher limits, don't just ignore them.

I agree with that, and I'm not a fan of people trying to turn the highways into a raceway (as my wife refers to LHP, Lake Hefner Raceway). And yeah, people that always go 5-10 over will usually eventually get an unpleasant surprise. However, it doesn't mean there can't be some consideration. Running a red light is bad, AS A RULE, but there are a times where running a red light is acceptable or necessary. There's an old saying... rules are there so you'll think before you break them. So I just want officers to be able to use their judgement on if a ticket or a warning (or nothing at all) is the right tool for a given situation. This is why I don't like the idea of automated ticket systems (speed cameras, red light cameras, etc).

[OKC Guy]

LOL. It is mandated now. It's the law. So, we just need to acknowledge that we believe the law is whatever the legal enforcer says it is and give them discretion over certain laws, classes of laws, or just everything. Is a gram of coke enforceable... an oz? Is it whatever the cop says it is? One mile over? 10 miles over? Stealing $50? $1,000.

We either have laws for a reason, or we should amend or get rid of them. It shouldn't be a guessing game or a game of cat and mouse. Cops shouldn't decide if red cars get tickets at 5 over and blue ones don't. Or on the basis of who's driving. Or whether they are from out of state. They aren't supposed to have discretion to enforce or not enforce legitimate laws. If the speed limits are too low, then pass a damn bill to get them raised.

Law officers go to an intensive amount of training to know how to use discretion. Its not as random as one thinks. They might see a car in a known drug area at 2am and notice some minor traffic violations but that does give them reason to stop. If they find an old lady lost they are not gonna give her a ticket. But if they see a crack pipe laying in the console and driver acting nervous they now have cause to search car.

Its all perspective. They are not out looking for 1mph speeders, but can use that (or plate light out) to stop someone in an area that is high crime.

[mugofbeer]

There are never absolutes. In my case, going 73 in a 70 zone, l was in the wide-open, flat Texas Panhandle on an established trucking route. The HP Officer who stopped me didn't seem to appreciate that traveling south against a 30mph wind gusting to 45 may cause a sudden increase or decrease to the speed of my car. Or the cruise control on my 10 year old car may be off a tick or two. Therefore, IMO, discretion is REQUIRED by law enforcement because not all "crimes" are crimes. The same for when the sliver of paper from the HP Officer's ticket book flew off in the wind when he ripped my warning out of it - as l pointed out to him, he just littered.

[bchris02]

There are never absolutes. In my case, going 73 in a 70 zone, l was in the wide-open, flat Texas Panhandle on an established trucking route. The HP Officer who stopped me didn't seem to appreciate that traveling south against a 30mph wind gusting to 45 may cause a sudden increase or decrease to the speed of my car. Or the cruise control on my 10 year old car may be off a tick or two. Therefore, IMO, discretion is REQUIRED by law enforcement because not all "crimes" are crimes. The same for when the sliver of paper from the HP Officer's ticket book flew off in the wind when he ripped my warning out of it - as l pointed out to him, he just littered.

Texas cops are the absolute worst outside of the big cities, especially in the panhandle from my experience. Lots of ridiculous speed traps as well.

[Rover]

Law officers go to an intensive amount of training to know how to use discretion. Its not as random as one thinks. They might see a car in a known drug area at 2am and notice some minor traffic violations but that does give them reason to stop. If they find an old lady lost they are not gonna give her a ticket. But if they see a crack pipe laying in the console and driver acting nervous they now have cause to search car.

Its all perspective. They are not out looking for 1mph speeders, but can use that (or plate light out) to stop someone in an area that is high crime.

Or to stop people who you don't want in an area, or are arbitrarily suspicious of (hair too long, too old, too young, wearing a hoodie, having a red car, or...... That arbitrariness can be used as a blunt weapon of profiling also.

Your description sounds nice and constrained. But let's not be naive.

[mugofbeer]

Or to stop people who you don't want in an area, or are arbitrarily suspicious of (hair too long, too old, too young, wearing a hoodie, having a red car, or...... That arbitrariness can be used as a blunt weapon of profiling also.

Your description sounds nice and constrained. But let's not be naive.

Damn! I'm too old and drive a red car........

[Plutonic Panda]

OKC suggested as top market for tech expansion:

“ Oklahoma City and Kansas City lead the list of markets where tech companies should consider locating. These cities rank high in affordability — where typical income earners are spending a relatively smaller share of their income on housing, livability (Kansas City tops the list in this category) and the availability of tech skills.”

- https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/04/wh...ook-to-expand/

[Plutonic Panda]

OKC NAMED TO TRAVEL + LEISURE'S TOP 50 DESTINATIONS IN 2020

Meredith Corporation's Travel + Leisure announced yesterday the 50 Best Places to Travel in 2020, the annual list of the most anticipated places to visit in the year ahead, according to the editors of Travel + Leisure. Now available on TravelandLeisure.com, this year’s global list includes seven destinations across the United States, including Oklahoma City, with MAPS 3 projects like the streetcar, convention center and Scissortail Park, the Omni hotel and new arts venues (including Chamber members Factory Obscura and Oklahoma Contemporary Arts Center) cited as catalysts for OKC's inclusion on the list.

- https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/ins...tions-in-2020/

[Plutonic Panda]

Was also featured on The Today Show:

Travel + Leisure editor-in-chief, Jacqui Gifford, stops by the 3rd hour of TODAY to share the best places to travel in 2020. Gifford recommends Oklahoma City for art and culture, the central California coast for wine, and more.

- https://www.today.com/video/the-best...20-75948101921

[BridgeBurner]

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nat...-oklahoma-city
Positive article with a lot of recommendations that I would agree with.

[Bellaboo]

^^^ Well written article ^^^

[SEMIweather]

Great article, and really touches on some "hidden gems" in the city, you can tell the author did her research. Only complaint, how do you not mention Pho Cuong when it comes to hole-in-the-wall pho spots?

[Thomas Vu]

Great article, and really touches on some "hidden gems" in the city, you can tell the author did her research. Only complaint, how do you not mention Pho Cuong when it comes to hole-in-the-wall pho spots?

I'm legit surprised Magasin table made it. It was for banh mi, but impressed none the less!

[Plutonic Panda]

Another top ranking for tech companies relocation and expansion by Zillow. If only companies would see this. I wish OKC could land some of these electric car start ups and a telsa production factory or two.

https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/eco...ies-to-expand/

[Plutonic Panda]

OKLAHOMA CITY SCORES WITH TOP 10 RANKING AMONG ‘BEST CITIES FOR BASKETBALL FANS’

WalletHub ranked Oklahoma City #7 out of 291 of the most populated cities nationwide for the best cities for basketball fans.
In terms of the NBA, Oklahoma City was ranked #5 for best cities for basketball fans.

WalletHub used a total of 21 metrics to help determine the best cities for basketball fans. Each metric was graded on a 100-point scale, with 100 representing the most favorable conditions for basketball fandom.

These metrics consisted of looking at top-performing teams, revenues and traditions, fan attendance and engagement, and much more.

- https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/eco...ack=super_blog

[Rover]

Another top ranking for tech companies relocation and expansion by Zillow. If only companies would see this. I wish OKC could land some of these electric car start ups and a telsa production factory or two.

https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/eco...ies-to-expand/

I had a client in the late 70s that was an all-electric car company based at around I-40 & Meridian. They converted those small AMC coupes into electric cars. They were just too far ahead of their time.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

https://kfor.com/news/local/study-tw...es-in-the-u-s/
Oklahoma City comes in at number 13.
FYI, Tulsa comes in at number 6.

[Dustin]

There is no way Tulsa is fatter than OKC.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

There is no way Tulsa is fatter than OKC.

I'm curious why you think this?
Eastern Oklahoma has traditionally had much poorer health metrics than Central Oklahoma.

[Rover]

There is no way Tulsa is fatter than OKC.

Lol. Who needs facts. We all know Tulsans are smarter, fitter, and just better.