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    It looks like they are finally starting something on this location!

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    Hopefully it's not the design in post #38!

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    I think Rick Dowell is doing a great service to architectural education and hope the replica Campanile di San Marco is the first in a series of developments somewhat after the style of the WinStar World Casino on I-35.

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    Also worth noting that the bell tower at St Mark's square is itself a replica finished in 1912 after the original collapsed in 1902. Useful construction duration benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timtoomany View Post
    I think Rick Dowell is doing a great service to architectural education and hope the replica Campanile di San Marco is the first in a series of developments somewhat after the style of the WinStar World Casino on I-35.
    Now you are just taking the piss.

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    I do think Oklahomans could look further than Texas for architectural inspiration, but no, I was not entirely in earnest. I would rather look at the backside of Homeland than the Dowell scheme, which has less gravitas then the gas station it replaced.

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    It has less gravitas than the junky, rocky dirt pile it is replacing.

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    I may be wrong, but what I think is going on now is removing contaminated soil. There was a soil survey done over the summer and now they appear to be digging out specific areas. The day they started digging the smell of gasoline was thick over the entire area.

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    The full building permit has yet to be issued, so that would make sense.

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    As we know from his downtown project (with the asbestos), Rick Dowell is happy to do environmental remediation and then continue sitting on an undeveloped property forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorTaco View Post
    As we know from his downtown project (with the asbestos), Rick Dowell is happy to do environmental remediation and then continue sitting on an undeveloped property forever.
    That seems like the best case scenario for this property right now.

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    I just checked the building permit application and there has been no progress on this since August 2018.

    What typically happens is the application is submitted and several weeks later the city puts the ball back in the applicant's court and waits for them to respond with additional info. In this case, the ball has been in Dowell's court for a year and a half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I just checked the building permit application and there has been no progress on this since August 2018.

    What typically happens is the application is submitted and several weeks later the city puts the ball back in the applicant's court and waits for them to respond with additional info. In this case, the ball has been in Dowell's court for a year and a half.
    So it's still super early for Dowell.

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    Just curious Pete, have you met Mr. Dowell/get any vibes from him? Any idea if he creeps on OKCTalk?

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    I've met him. IMO too old/old school. Don't think he could be bothered. Perhaps one of his employees would or something, but I would be very surprised to find he was one of us.

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    ^^^
    Still, I'm keeping an eye out for the username "Blackwindows4ever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    Just curious Pete, have you met Mr. Dowell/get any vibes from him? Any idea if he creeps on OKCTalk?
    I've spoken to him at length several times.

    He's a character. A former college professor.

    I don't think he's an on-line type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    Just curious Pete, have you met Mr. Dowell/get any vibes from him? Any idea if he creeps on OKCTalk?
    I've spoken to him at length several times.

    He's a character. A former college professor.

    I don't think he's an on-line type.

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    They freshly graded the lot but the building permit application has seen no action for two years:


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    Well that is somewhat better

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    Seriously, this is my favorite thread on OKCTalk.

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    I wonder how long they'll keep dilly dowelling before they file a permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zefferoni View Post
    I wonder how long they'll keep dilly dowelling before they file a permit.
    He filed one a long time ago but has not done anything with it all this time.

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