2019-20 OKC Thunder

[dankrutka]

the thunder had the 5th highest average ticket price in the NBA last season


in the resale market the thunder was the 4th highest last year

Can you provide some evidence? I did some searches and they did not show that OKC as a top 5 most expensive ticket. I mean, I have $16 tickets season tickets in the lower part of the upper bowl. Either way, the secondary market will go down this season.

[OkiePoke]

Can you provide some evidence? I did some searches and they did not show that OKC as a top 5 most expensive ticket. I mean, I have $16 tickets season tickets in the lower part of the upper bowl. Either way, the secondary market will go down this season.

THis is for the current season. Which I think the re-sale market will soften.
https://blog.ticketiq.com/blog/nba-t...-prices-trends

From 13/14
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/whic...st-affordable/
"Behind young superstars Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, the Thunder is now one of the best teams in the NBA year in and year out. Although the team is in a relatively small market, it is the only major professional sports team in the state and its TFC of $719 is the fourth highest in the league. Ticket prices on the resale marker are the third highest of all teams, only costing less than Knicks and Lakers games. The good news? Parking costs are the lowest in the NBA and beer prices are tied for third lowest."

OKC has averaged some of the highest ticket prices in the NBA for quite a while. Next year may change that.

[Laramie]

OKC seems to fall slightly above the middle of the road when you look at all things ticket related. What's most impressive is where we are among the small markets like Milwaukee, Memphis, New Orleans & Salt Lake City.

A city like Milwaukee where you have 1.6 million MSA and 5.8 million in Wisconsin where the state supports MLB (Brewers), NFL (Green Bay Packers) & NBA (Bucks) vs a smaller state like Oklahoma where the NBA (Thunder) is king in a state of 4 million with no other major competing pro sports like MLB, NFL & NHL.

I still think Tulsa (400,000 urban/1 million MSA) could support an NHL team in the 17,100-seat BOK Center. You would definitely sell a good share of season tickets & ticket packages in Oklahoma City & Wichita.

[Laramie]

Magic 94 @ Thunder 102

Box score: https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401160743

Attendance - 18,203

[dcsooner]

This team has loads of potential. They may not make the playoffs but if they stay as constructed it should be close (9-10th). We appear to have a potential star play and a couple reliable starters in development. These trades and draft picks have me more optimistic about the team in 2-3 years

[OkiePoke]

Uh, SGA is going to be great. Hopefully we get to keep him around for a while.

[dankrutka]

Reality check: this team will NOT stay as constructed. Gallo is 100% getting moved and that’ll crater the offense. But it’s the smart move long term. Really enjoying this team.

[Laramie]

Thunder @ Spurs

AT&T Center, San Antonio
Thursday, November 7, 7 p.m.
TV/Radio: FSOK/98.1 FM

OKC - M. Muscala (PF) Day-To-Day - A. Roberson (SG) Out

Injury report

S. A. - No injured players

[OKCRT]

Reality check: this team will NOT stay as constructed. Gallo is 100% getting moved and that’ll crater the offense. But it’s the smart move long term. Really enjoying this team.

That is prob. correct that Gallo - CP3 and just about any other player on this team could be traded and prob. will for the right price. But, this team is good enough to make a push if they were to add one high quality player. I kind of like the make up of this team and if they would have kept J. Grant this would be a playoff team IMO. They might still be able to make the playoffs as is if they keep the team together. These young players will get better as the season goes on hopefully. I hate to see a team tank but that's todays NBA.

[SEMIweather]

I really don't think this team should attempt to completely tank this season. SGA is already very good and I'm not in favor of doing a full-on tank that would potentially hamper his development.

[dankrutka]

I really don't think this team should attempt to completely tank this season. SGA is already very good and I'm not in favor of doing a full-on tank that would potentially hamper his development.

How would a full on tank hamper his development? Lots of superstars started on awful teams. As long as the culture isn’t bad, it can provide an environment for growth.

[Laramie]

Keep this group together. You want SGA in a position where he has help and doesn't take it upon himself (recall Westbrook's struggles post Durant) to do it all. Players get injured when they are stretched too far.

Shai is young; he can learn from the experience of a Chris Paul, Abdel Nader and Danilo Gallinari. Right now we're seeing the best spacing & ball movement since the Thunder entered the OKC market.

The franchise is in a position to add key pieces to build around its youth. Really impressed with Diallo fit.

[Roger S]

Right now we're seeing the best spacing & ball movement since the Thunder entered the OKC market.

It's beautiful isn't it!

[emtefury]

I am here to exclaim I was right about Westbrook. I was blasted many times on here when saying Westbrook was the offensive problem and sucked the oxygen out of the offense.

It is good to see real offensive teaming is happening.

[chuck5815]

I am here to exclaim I was right about Westbrook. I was blasted many times on here when saying Westbrook was the offensive problem and sucked the oxygen out of the offense.

It is good to see a real offensive teaming is happening.

I'm proud of you for making that call when it wasn't necessarily in your interests to do so.

[emtefury]

Thanks for the kudos. Hopefully realize I had some lighthearted sarcasm in my post.

[okatty]

Dead last in assist to TO ratio; 2nd to last in assist %; 5th from bottom in overall offensive rating and 6th from last in effective FG rating. I'm enjoying watching SGA, CP3, Gallinari et al., but lets not pretend this is a good offensive team.

[BoulderSooner]

I am here to exclaim I was right about Westbrook. I was blasted many times on here when saying Westbrook was the offensive problem and sucked the oxygen out of the offense.

It is good to see real offensive teaming is happening.

of course the offensive rating of the team is way down .. . but you know facts ..

[king183]

I am here to exclaim I was right about Westbrook. I was blasted many times on here when saying Westbrook was the offensive problem and sucked the oxygen out of the offense.

It is good to see real offensive teaming is happening.

We have one of the worst offensive ratings in the league.

[Roger S]

We have one of the worst offensive ratings in the league.

And we're not getting blown out despite all these stats being posted.... No one is arguing this team isn't a work in progress. We all accepted that when Presti lit the fuse and blew things up.

[king183]

And we're not getting blown out despite all these stats being posted.... No one is arguing this team isn't a work in progress. We all accepted that when Presti lit the fuse and blew things up.

Well, the other part of the equation is that we have one of the best defensive ratings in the league. That’s why we aren’t getting blown out.

The note about our terrible offensive rating was in response to the poster exclaiming vindication on their stance that removing Westbrook from the team would result in a reinvigorated offense. That’s clearly the opposite of reality.

[dankrutka]

I am here to exclaim I was right about Westbrook. I was blasted many times on here when saying Westbrook was the offensive problem and sucked the oxygen out of the offense.

It is good to see real offensive teaming is happening.

Here's more info on BoulderSooner's point about offensive rating.

Here's OKC's offensive rating and league ranking:
2019-2020: 103.57 (26th)
2018-2019: 110.85 (9th)
2017-2018: 111.48 (6th)
2016-2017: 108.95 (10th) - remember, this season was solo Russ, which is pretty good evidence Russ was great offensively
2015-2016: 113.76 (3rd)

So, in short, the offense is dramatically worse without Russ. Nice try though, everyone! The Russ hating is pretty much a fad here at this point!

The reason this team is hanging in, and winning, games is because the defense is really good.

[Roger S]

So, in short, the offense is dramatically worse without Russ. Nice try though, everyone! The Russ hating is pretty much a fad here at this point!
The reason this team is hanging in, and winning, games is because the defense is really good.

What did the offense look like Russ's first few years here? Remember we are in rebuilding mode here. Not in championship chasing mode like the years you chose to compare this team to.

[Roger S]

And how do we compare 7 games in to a season?

[okatty]

Here's more info on BoulderSooner's point about offensive rating.

Here's OKC's offensive rating and league ranking:
2019-2020: 103.57 (26th)
2018-2019: 110.85 (9th)
2017-2018: 111.48 (6th)
2016-2017: 108.95 (10th) - remember, this season was solo Russ, which is pretty good evidence Russ was great offensively
2015-2016: 113.76 (3rd)

So, in short, the offense is dramatically worse without Russ. Nice try though, everyone! The Russ hating is pretty much a fad here at this point!

The reason this team is hanging in, and winning, games is because the defense is really good.

+100... Exactly. As noted earlier - just enjoy the new guys without the need to try to make it "better now" without Russ. That's a completely unnecessary comparison. Franchise won more games during his time here than all but 2 other franchises! The Russ bashing is just bizarre. It doesn't have to be better to still be enjoyable.