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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDollar View Post
    Lotsa opinion ............but nobody knows where transportation is headed. If you do, then you need to invest all the money you got and get rich, one way or the other

    But you people , don't invest your own money, y'all are really good at spending other people's money where there's no personal risk to you. So what if your wrong, its just the taxpayers that get screwed.

    Transportation, including public transportation, is in a state of flux, denying that is hiding from reality.
    The truly revolutionary developments that are occurring in our world right now are developments that are allowing us to transcend space and time to a degree that we've never been able to do before. Improvements to the mechanical world while nice, are just not revolutionary at this point in time. By the time cab/ride-share companies come up with a legitimately functional system for driver-less cars and can begin to address the cost to be competitive in increasingly dense cities, technology will have improved for public transit as well that moves people even more efficiently.

    By no means am I saying that one should be bearish on the push by cab/ride-share companies to introduce autonomous cars to the roadways and make profit off those...but to think they're going to be able to efficiently move multiple millions of people within the confines of small boarders, it's just never going to happen. The reason people over estimate the threat of autonomous cars to public transit is because underestimate how important ROW is in determining winners and losers.

  2. #8602

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDollar View Post
    Lotsa opinion .
    agreed... one of them being yours... hence why i posted reference to something that has 4 experts in the field discussing this very issue. 2 in favor and two against. because their opinions are more substantial on the subject than anyone's on here. but again. it isn't what you want to hear because it might be contrary to your opinion... so we will ignore it.

  3. #8603

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    Is there anyway to have a streetcar stopped at Santa Fe Hub station not continually keep the Oklahoma and Reno light green for Reno? This causes long wait times for people waiting to cross when the street car has already passed.

  4. #8604

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    I'm eagerly awaiting updated ridership numbers. Last weekend's weather was amazing. I wouldn't be surprised if it is the highest ridership in the "pay-to-ride" era.

  5. #8605

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDark View Post
    I'm eagerly awaiting updated ridership numbers. Last weekend's weather was amazing. I wouldn't be surprised if it is the highest ridership in the "pay-to-ride" era.
    Where do you get these?

  6. #8606

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    Quote Originally Posted by djohn View Post
    Where do you get these?
    This site?

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    lol.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Were the streetcars stopped for a time Friday night? I noticed an Embark shuttle bus parked with flashers on at the transit stop for a extended period of time Friday evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBatesokc View Post
    Were the streetcars stopped for a time Friday night? I noticed an Embark shuttle bus parked with flashers on at the transit stop for a extended period of time Friday evening.
    https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...21#post1075721

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    this happens. if there were a similar accident anywhere along a rail line it would be stopped until its clear.

    I hope we don't think EVERY thing and ANY thing will be the end of whatever infrastructure gets added to OKC. Other cities deal with this, so can OKC.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    this happens. if there were a similar accident anywhere along a rail line it would be stopped until its clear.

    I hope we don't think EVERY thing and ANY thing will be the end of whatever infrastructure gets added to OKC. Other cities deal with this, so can OKC.
    Fortunately, ours are empty most of the day, so no real issue!

  12. #8612

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    They have been running EMBARK vans on the streetcar routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    They have been running EMBARK vans on the streetcar routes.
    So it’s okay to be empaled in a bus but not a streetcar? ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott View Post
    So it’s okay to be empaled in a bus but not a streetcar? ��
    No, but their not confined to a track that goes through affected area.

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    https://twitter.com/OKCStreetcar/sta...98128289378305

    We're back on the rails again! Streetcar service has resumed but the Century Center Platform will remain closed until further notice. Robinson & Sheridan also remain closed to pedestrians and motorists.
    We're excited to be back, OKC! #RideOn with us.

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    I just saw the streetcar in a week ride by my office about 30 minutes ago.

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    I rode it several times yesterday with clients on a trip down to a project site. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of people riding yesterday after the downturn. I wonder if the city will pursue damages against Devon for the lost fare revenues and subcontractor technician fees lost during the catastrophe.

    We were supposed to be running signal priority tests on the next wave of equipment deployments when the catastrophe happened. The technicians were put back on planes and will have to make another trip back to install and calibrate the new equipment.

    The disruption in reliability obviously potentially also has had a negative effect on securing potential first-time users and reliant users lost during the period as well.

  18. #8618

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    Sitting in Kaiser's right now. Visiting OKC for the day and ended up taking the street car from the convention center to midtown. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the street car, since I usually just stroll around Bricktown on these occasions. The street car was cheap and really easy to use, and it really opens up the area to me as a visitor. So here's proof of a little benefit from an outsider.

    Ridership looks good. Most of the seats were taken, so I just stood in the middle area.

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    ^^ That's great to hear!

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    omg imagine what we could have done for humanity with 140m dollars! instead it is important to cater to the elite! trickle down transit is the end of us.... hope you enjoy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSteveHunt View Post
    omg imagine what we could have done for humanity with 140m dollars! instead it is important to cater to the elite! trickle down transit is the end of us.... hope you enjoy it!
    Catering to all those elite construction workers who build projects spurred on by the streetcar route? Or all the elite who ride mass trans? Or all those elite children who are educated with the taxes from increased taxes on property? Or all the elite workers in and around the restaurants, shops, etc, enhanced by the area of the streetcars?

    Find another stale argument... this pompous one isn’t born out in truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSteveHunt View Post
    omg imagine what we could have done for humanity with 140m dollars! instead it is important to cater to the elite! trickle down transit is the end of us.... hope you enjoy it!
    umm... $140 million wouldn't do much to actually help people... money adds up really quickly...

    but as we talk about catering to things... based upon your last like 30 posts, can you please provide input and actual criticism of projects, rather than just cater to your ego?

    thanks.

  23. #8623

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSteveHunt View Post
    omg imagine what we could have done for humanity with 140m dollars! instead it is important to cater to the elite! trickle down transit is the end of us.... hope you enjoy it!
    The only transit projects that cater to the elite is building roads. The cost of using a vehicle is a barrier for many. Good public transit is leveling the playing field. This is a very bad take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGators View Post
    The only transit projects that cater to the elite is building roads. The cost of using a vehicle is a barrier for many. Good public transit is leveling the playing field. This is a very bad take.
    It's funny how many people have no problem with insane spending on roads to subsidize cars, but spend a nickel on public transit and they lose their minds.

  25. #8625

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorba View Post
    It's funny how many people have no problem with insane spending on roads to subsidize cars, but spend a nickel on public transit and they lose their minds.
    For real. We're dropping more than $140 million on I-235 widening and interchange reconstruction alone.

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