Despite all our flaws we're competing well. We're not the only city/state that struggles with education, infrastructure, goofy politics etc
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Despite all our flaws we're competing well. We're not the only city/state that struggles with education, infrastructure, goofy politics etc
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
I'm still of the opinion that once the park, convention center, and hotel are up and running the city and chamber of commerce needs to make a new publicity video like the one made several years ago and advertise the city on the internet and on TV in as many markets as possible. There's so much more to downtown and the city than there was when the last video was made. Plus, who knows what will happen in the next couple years? I still hold out hope that another high rise will be announced for one of the lots in the core, or we'll get more corporate relocations.
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
If you haven't already, you need to read Anderson's book. The praise from literary critics for his erudite but humorous style will win some 2019 prizes. But it's a great story and would have even worked as a novel! Boom Town is one of the best books of the year. (Great podcast, too. Thanks to gman for posting it.)Originally Posted by SEMIweather
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Yep, Boom Town and Killers Of The Flower Moon are both on my list for Oklahoma-centric books. If you have any other suggestions, feel free to let me know!
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
The fattest states in America: Mississippi is still the country's obesity capital and Colorado is the fittest as the South swells and the West slims down, study reveals.
Oklahoma needs to get healthier, exit the top 10; let Texas continue to brag & boast about being the 'biggest.'
As children, we use to laugh about our aunts from Texas. The heavier aunt was always toughing on her dress while the healthier aunt teased her about looking like a 'tub-in-a-bucket' (slang for looking like a tub stuck inside of a bucket). So cruel in those days it was to poke fun of fat folks.
Does these factors contribute & reflect the rising costs of health insurance?
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
They do, but the main reason is boomers are getting older and younger people don't have health insurance at high rates. Product mix is badThe fattest states in America: Mississippi is still the country's obesity capital and Colorado is the fittest as the South swells and the West slims down, study reveals.
Oklahoma needs to get healthier, exit the top 10; let Texas continue to brag & boast about being the 'biggest.'
As children, we use to laugh about our aunts from Texas. The heavier aunt was always toughing on her dress while the healthier aunt teased her about looking like a 'tub-in-a-bucket' (slang for looking like a tub stuck inside of a bucket). So cruel in those days it was to poke fun of fat folks.
Does these factors contribute & reflect the rising costs of health insurance?
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Walkability fans, have some fuel for the fire.
https://kfor.com/2019/03/11/oklahoma...r-pedestrians/
Interesting to note the vast majority (3/4 in both cases) happen outside of intersections/crosswalks, and at night. Make of that what thou wilt.
Platinum Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
I literally have lost count of the people walking *on* a major road (Western, May, 36th, etc., not just highways), both with and facing traffic (with is far more common) that won't step up on the grass if a car is coming (yeah, I know, no sidewalks). Also, living around NW 36th/May and driving around that area quite a bit, I see way too many people wearing dark clothes at night, just walking across the street at random spots. Basically, seems like there are too many idiots out walking that have no idea how to do it properly. Does not excuse them getting hit at all, but just a small bit of common sense would probably cut the accidents down hugely.
Platinum Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
One time that it's OK for Tulsa to be ahead of OKC. Tulsa = 7th fattest city in the USA, OKC = 12th.
https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-ci...america/10532/
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Oddly enough, searching for 2018's list doesn't appear to exist? I'll take it though.
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Are Tulsans eating up the profits of those 'All You Can Eat Buffet' food establishments.One time that it's OK for Tulsa to be ahead of OKC. Tulsa = 7th fattest city in the USA, OKC = 12th.
https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-ci...america/10532/
The Run to Remember (Oklahoma City Memorial Marathon), increase in fitness & wellness centers, tracks on Oklahoma River, State Fair Park & Will Rogers Park, Rowing & Kayak, Riversport Rapids these are outlets where people can workout. Not sure of all the methodology, qualifications or criteria they use; however following the relocation of the Supersonics and Mayor Cornett putting the city on a diet--we became the FAT FOLKS CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
Memphis at #3 is living high on the hog. All that sausage, BBQ pork & beef sandwiches.
Surprise to see some cities within a -tenth of OKC like Little Rock, New Orleans, Louisville, Nashville & San Antonio. Can't believe these cities have just as many TUBS-IN-A-BUCKET as OKC.
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
.
Banned
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Surprised about them? NO has cajun (not healthy) food, Nashville has hot chicken (also not healthy). Louisville (KFC/Yum Brands). San Antonio has BBQ and Mexican. All seem perfectly reasonable as to why they would be high up there with OKC.
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Gold Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
"It has to do with the job opportunities here relative to other places. It’s not just total job availability, but the kinds of jobs relative to the skills people have.”
This hits the nail on the head. We're going to have to diversify from oil, warehouse, and service jobs. And while we can expand on our impressive biotech and aeronautics industries, we need more general tech jobs that don't require micro-specialization and therefore are more flexible.
This is also indicative of the continued decline of rural Oklahoma (and rural America), with most people in the western part of the state leaving for better opportunity.
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Oklahoma exodus
https://journalrecord.com/2019/04/09...lahoma-exodus/
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
People may disagree with my comments and will likely result in some saying I am always negative and must be banned, but, they reflect my honest views and really come from a place of frustration over many years of hearing the negative comments of people about the place I was born and love. It's not JUST about jobs (although I think this is primary) but low educational atttainment (college graduates), inept State government that focuses on things (Guns, Abortion, Marijuana) that in and of themselves are great issues but do little to spur high paying Job growth and expansion. States across the nation announce new large plants being built or tech centers etc. Where is Oklahoma? OKC C of C tells us of all the great things people are saying abou the city but I ask myself why then aren't those accolades translating to people desiring to take up residence in the city? Oklahoma, a ruby red limited government state that relies heavily on government spending and employment. Amazon is OK, but almost every State has one or more of these facilities (it fits their distribution model). Poor health care, subpar infrastructure, racial intolerance. What really is there for a College Educated person to aspire to in Oklahoma? Oil and Gas? Tinker continues to lament the inablility to attract sufficient engineers to fill the jobs. What are OU and OSU doing to educate MORE software, electronic, mechanical engineers? and truth is where would they work in those technical fields in Oklahoma? Oklahomas leadership (Governor and State Legislature) has been horrid. The Republican Party runs Oklahoma however across many objective measures the State continues to rank in the bottom 1/3. Why don't those living there demand more of elected officials? Why won't they try the Democrats? They couldn't do much worse (Oh, I forgot they are socialists). Many of the people who comment on this board live elsewhere, they will say for a variety of reasons but, how many of us would move back from wherever we live? truth is my Hoosier wife would leave me first.
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Save you guys a click.
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
And the the top 10 fattest states voted for Trump...
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
I’m pretty sure by now most assume unless it’s an editorial they will be needing a sub to view JR articles. But thanks I guess for the screenshot.
Save you guys a click.
At the risk of being mislead by a clickbait title, the article shows there is many people leaving the state. This kind of news is good or bad depending on how you look at it. I see it as bad that it is happening and a good thing it is being reported on to get people in denial that it is happening aware it really is which may lead to something being done about it.
There is no reason for this to be happening in Oklahoma, a state with some of the most natural resources. Oklahoma is also a very geographically diverse state with rich culture and history of people would take the time to learn which could be helped with the state showcasing it more.
Unfortunately, and this is in no way shape or form directed at you, but it exhausting to vocalize the slightest ounce of criticism as it seems every time you do you get the old Oklahoma mantra “you don’t like then leave.” Or I’m just told I don’t like Oklahoma or I should mind my own business because I live in LA. All three of those are weak arguments indicative of someone who doesn’t have sound argument to come back at mine with. Alas, if I had a nickel every time I was told that maybe I could find education in Oklahoma to proper levels.
Platinum Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
i would guess that the huge majority of the negative coments you hear about oklahoma are from poeple that have never been here ...
as for TInker not sure what you are talking about .. the federal postings are always filled very very quickly
Banned
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
I agree with a few of your points. But the Tinker one, not so much. They are CONSTANTLY posting new jobs there. And they wouldn't do that if they weren't able to fill the ones they already have open.
Now with regards to tech jobs, I agree, OK needs to do better. They always tout all these manufacturing jobs. Makes it seem like they don't even try to recruit companies for white-collar jobs or IT jobs. Kind of blows me away how OK can't get one of the 100's of Bay Area companies fleeing there and heading east to HQ. I doubt they even try. Maybe Pete knows of some possible companies looking to expand or locate here, but until we get some new companies in here, people will keep flocking south to DFW.
VIP Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
dc, I don't think it's so much what you say it is just that when given an opportunity to write something negative on this site, you pounce on it with the vigor of a Sooner Fan pouncing on the Longhorns in Dallas. I doubt there are many people who move in or out of a place due to the level of education or politics unless they are on the extreme other end of the spectrum but move because of job opportunities - pure and simple. Oil and Gas has been down and OK is a non-diversified O & G state. That is a problem that needs great improvement.
As for some of your other issues, such as Tinker having a problem getting engineers or the infrastructure, that sounds more like opinion rather than fact. What part of the infrastructure are you referring to? The interstates are pretty nicely paved from border to border - a great improvement over 6-8 years ago. Secondary highways can always see improvement but are decent compared to other states. Yes, there are segments that are far overdue for repair and replacement. Large city highway systems in OKC and Tulsa are superior (in the case of some cities, far superior) to most cities and just need fixes here and there to better handle peak times.
Education? Sure, probably the #1 problem and needs a ton of improvement. It does seem there are steps being taken there but it's going to be baby steps.
As far as posters on here who have never lived in OK or OKC - Who? I think any of us who post frequently either live in OK or have in our past or, like me, have lived here but visit frequently.
My opinion is that most of you who are in OKC and complain the most don't know how good you have it. There are unique, local problems living anywhere so the grass isn't necessarily greener. And yes, if all you can do is say negative things about a place, there is a point when it goes beyond just constructive criticism and just becomes complaining, whining and destruction.
Participating Member
Re: Oklahoma City, In the Press
Good points. Out of curiosity - and for context - what city do you live in and compare and contrast with Oklahoma City? Do you have a family and did that play a role in your now being out-of-state?
I appreciate your posts mugofbeer. I always read someone who is conservative, but not a flame thrower and debate in a way that reminds me of times I remember without the highly charged and inflammatory rhetoric, that we’ve always had, but not as everyday rhetoric thrown back and forth.
There are currently 25 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 25 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks