Oklahoma liquor laws

[bchris02]

Another thing I was thinking of is are all the 7/11 liquor stores gone? I typically root for small businesses but if those are the liquor stores that go out of business it needs to happen. I'll still go to Freeman's simply because I like the people who work there and they have a great selection of beers especially.

[Quicker]

Another thing I was thinking of is are all the 7/11 liquor stores gone? I typically root for small businesses but if those are the liquor stores that go out of business it needs to happen. I'll still go to Freeman's simply because I like the people who work there and they have a great selection of beers especially.

Yes, with 7/11 able to sell wine and strong beer, they now view liquor stores as competitors and stopped renewing their leases...

[catch22]

Yes, with 7/11 able to sell wine and strong beer, they now view liquor stores as competitors and stopped renewing their leases...

And they aren’t necessarily being cold hearted about it; it places everyone in a bad position if you are either competing with your landlord; or competing with your tenant. Better off to not even attempt the conflict of interest.

[bchris02]

And they aren’t necessarily being cold hearted about it; it places everyone in a bad position if you are either competing with your landlord; or competing with your tenant. Better off to not even attempt the conflict of interest.

Those were also some of the worst liquor stores in OKC. They were the kind of places you find bottom-shelf wine almost a decade old that has already turned to vinegar.

[Johnb911]

With the new Oklahoma laws, why would that be necessary? Can't they sell chilled wine like cold beer?
C. T.

It would limit the amount of wine that a liquor store had to have refrigerated. You see these in a lot of the smaller package stores in Kansas. You don't have to chill any of the wine (except maybe your biggest movers) cause anyone can get a bottle of white and chill it on their own. More space in the coolers for beer.

[Johnb911]

Since I'm not a parent I've never thought of this, but there should be exceptions for minors especially below a certain age. I can understand not wanting underage teenagers in the store but infants and toddlers shouldn't be a problem.

I also was told to leave with my 6 month old in her car seat. Ridiculous.

I think all age restrictions should be gone. Under 21 need to be accompanied by an adult, but if they can go in a grocery store by themselves, they should be able to go to a liquor store. It just seems silly.

[MagzOK]

I also was told to leave with my 6 month old in her car seat. Ridiculous.

I think all age restrictions should be gone. Under 21 need to be accompanied by an adult, but if they can go in a grocery store by themselves, they should be able to go to a liquor store. It just seems silly.

I totally agree! 10 years ago we were with newborn. I had picked our newborn son up at grandmas and was headed home. Momma wanted a bottle of wine since, of course, she hadn't had wine for a loooong time. Anyway, being a new dad it took me forever to gather my son up and we went into an unnamed large liquor store and as I walked in was told I couldn't have my son in there with me. Yes at that very moment I knew that I had a newborn that wasn't 21 (LOL) and I sort of laughed at first jokingly commenting that I promised I wasn't buying liquor for this little guy. He was not as chippy about it and reiterated that I couldn't have the child in there. So I left. I felt stupid, but I guess yes the law is the law. I do think there should be some common sense laws regarding the issue.

[stile99]

I'm reminded of a time when I lived in Missouri and a friend and I were out with her rather young daughter. I want to say she was just under two years, because when the store pointed out nobody under 21, we (as noted above, jokingly, but we weren't the ones facing a fine and/or jail time) responded she was over 21 months. We both (all three actually, as the store employee thought so as well) agreed the law was pretty stupid, and we certainly weren't leaving the kid alone in the car, so we left. Because again, we weren't the ones facing a fine and/or jail time, the employee was. The law may be stupid, but it is still the law, and I imagine not a day goes by that someone doesn't walk into the store and raise a fuss over it, as if it's a store policy that can be overlooked.

Honestly, until/unless the law is changed, I think the issue should be settled with a sign clearly posted saying "Sure, you can bring your kid in here, it will cost you $25,000 and three months in jail". I guarantee nobody will be raising a fuss then, and even so the matter still isn't equal, as the store could lose its license. Maybe the sign should say $25,000, three months in jail, and you plus another handful of people lose their jobs.

[Johnb911]

I should clarify, I'm not upset with the stores for enforcing what they have to enforce, but with the law that won't allow me to take my kids into the liquor store under my supervision.

[bluedogok]

I saw a wine chiller in Total Wine in Dallas - you put the hot wine bottle in water and it swirls around and chills it. Will something like this be allowed under the new laws?
Sorry for the sideways picture!!
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The liquor store at NW 122nd & Penn had one of those 20 years ago.

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Oklahoma law dictates that other than liquor stores, only these types of retailers can carry wine & beer: Supermarket, grocery store, convenience store, drug store, warehouse club and supercenter.

This eliminates places like BevMo and I doubt they would come here anyway if they could only sell wine and beer.

When I looked into a liquor store was allowed only one license and the state had a 10 year continuous Oklahoma residency requirement.

[Martin]

the crest on sw 104th & may is set up for the change... was there this morning and they have two 20-25 foot shelving sections for wine

(maybe more... the whole section was roped off)

where they once stocked seasonal items. the beer case was also full with a sign stating that nothing can be sold until october 1.

[Bullbear]

I saw yesterday that the little corner liquor store at Main and western had a sign out that all liquor was 50% off. never had been in there before. went in and mostly he carries small sizes and 50% off was only for over 10.00. but I picked up a bunch of liter of Vodka for my Halloween party for super cheap. owner said he's closing and going to travel.

[Mott]

This might be of interest regarding who can get a liquor liscence......https://www.winespectator.com/webfea...18BreakingNews

[fromdust]

This is such a long thread so it may have already been mentioned, but apparently, there are a lot of gotchas in the law? If somebody could help me out, but no more beer specials at bars like buying buy the pitcher or bucket? What else?

[shawnw]

The TLO article seemed pretty thorough but didn't mention anything about pitchers

[Libbymin]

This is such a long thread so it may have already been mentioned, but apparently, there are a lot of gotchas in the law? If somebody could help me out, but no more beer specials at bars like buying buy the pitcher or bucket? What else?

Where did you hear that?

[fromdust]

Where did you hear that?

A couple of bartenders while visiting Tulsa.

[jerrywall]

They did have pretty strict rules in place about how much liquor can be sold at once. I know of strong beers they had to sell in smaller glasses to avoid crossing the quantities. And places that serve margaritas pitchers serve a very weak version. So it depends how new rules take stuff into account such as abv on beer, since there's no longer a classification for 3.2 and under which had special allowances.

[ctchandler]

Just a curiosity question, but I own a kegerator and have always had to take a warm keg home and let it chill overnight before I could drink the beer. But, yesterday I picked up three kegs (1/6th barrel) and all of them were chilled. I don't want to get my store in trouble, just wondering if maybe the distributors have gotten an early start or if liquor stores could always have chilled kegs.
C. T.

[Eric]

Not sure if there are any golfers out there so no one may care. None the less, the new law is potentially going to cause some problems for municipal golf courses.

As deadline looms, golf courses struggle with beer law @ The Journal Record

Essentially municipal courses are being forced to attempt to circumvent the law as currently written. Pretty sad.

[bchris02]

Happy new liquor laws!! I bought a six pack of beer right at midnight to celebrate.

[Bunty]

Darn. Not happy. Wal-Mart unveiled their beer only to reveal my favorite, Miller Lite, labeled at 3.2%. At least the price is the same as before. Just $12.23 for an 18 pack. So 3.2 beer not ready to go away yet.

[Timshel]

^ I wonder if they're just getting rid of existing inventory before making the switch?

[Johnb911]

Just a curiosity question, but I own a kegerator and have always had to take a warm keg home and let it chill overnight before I could drink the beer. But, yesterday I picked up three kegs (1/6th barrel) and all of them were chilled. I don't want to get my store in trouble, just wondering if maybe the distributors have gotten an early start or if liquor stores could always have chilled kegs.
C. T.

They can start selling chilled kegs as of today. So....I'd say thank your local liquor store for the early cold beer and don't tell anyone where you got it!

[PaddyShack]

So as someone a few posts brought up, are beers now smaller at bars and restaurants?