Oklahoma liquor laws

[Libbymin]

Is that a Walmart issue or an everywhere issue?

I do know that the 3.2 distributors are stopping the sale of 3.2 beer to a lot of the Oklahoma restaurants in September.

[jedicurt]

I do know that the 3.2 distributors are stopping the sale of 3.2 beer to a lot of the Oklahoma restaurants in September.

and a large reason for that is that AB InBev has stopped production of most of it's 3.2 beers as of the start of this month. this is because Colorado, Kansas, Minnesota and Utah are the only other 3.2 beer states remaining. and Colorado is only 3.2 in grocery stores. AB InBev announced back in December that they were going to stop producing most of their 3.2 brands, as Oklahoma was close to %50 of all of the 3.2 beer sales. I don't know if MillerCoors is doing the same.

[bchris02]

and a large reason for that is that AB InBev has stopped production of most of it's 3.2 beers as of the start of this month. this is because Colorado, Kansas, Minnesota and Utah are the only other 3.2 beer states remaining. and Colorado is only 3.2 in grocery stores. AB InBev announced back in December that they were going to stop producing most of their 3.2 brands, as Oklahoma was close to %50 of all of the 3.2 beer sales. I don't know if MillerCoors is doing the same.

I've always wondered that out of the five states that held on to 3.2 beer why Oklahoma was the only state where AB and MillerCoors didn't offer the full-strength versions of their most popular products. I'm sure that is the reason 3.2 beer has remained so popular in Oklahoma while being only a very small percentage of beer sold in the other four states.

[Jersey Boss]

^^ It had to do with Oklahoma not allowing the breweries to supply exclusive distributors.

[Urbanized]

^^ Yes and I believe also the lack of refrigeration in liquor stores. They simply were going to sell far more cold product that room temp, so why bother with the strong product? There honestly was very little difference in the alcohol content between most 3.2 offerings and their full strength counterparts, anyway.

[jedicurt]

There honestly was very little difference in the alcohol content between most 3.2 offerings and their full strength counterparts, anyway.

shhh... be careful saying this because people don't want to believe it! lol

[bchris02]

shhh... be careful saying this because people don't want to believe it! lol

It's both true and not true. When it comes to domestic light beers eg. Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Light, etc, then yes, the difference between the 3.2 version and the full-strength version is usually somewhere between 0.1-0.5% ABV which is negligible. The difference is much greater for full-strength brews. I can definitely taste the difference in the 3.2 version of Budweiser, PBR, Blue Moon, Dos Equis, etc. The 3.2 version tastes watered down and it is.

[Bullbear]

Sams is clearing out their 3.2 stock. two 12 packs of Modelo for 6.91. Mikes hard lemonade 24 pack for 3.91

[barrettd]

It's both true and not true. When it comes to domestic light beers eg. Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Light, etc, then yes, the difference between the 3.2 version and the full-strength version is usually somewhere between 0.1-0.5% ABV which is negligible. The difference is much greater for full-strength brews. I can definitely taste the difference in the 3.2 version of Budweiser, PBR, Blue Moon, Dos Equis, etc. The 3.2 version tastes watered down and it is.

Agreed. I'm looking forward to a better tasting Miller Lite, not a higher ABV Miller Lite, for those occasions when I stock my fridge with cheap domestic beer.

[Urbanized]

It's both true and not true. When it comes to domestic light beers eg. Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Light, etc, then yes, the difference between the 3.2 version and the full-strength version is usually somewhere between 0.1-0.5% ABV which is negligible. The difference is much greater for full-strength brews. I can definitely taste the difference in the 3.2 version of Budweiser, PBR, Blue Moon, Dos Equis, etc. The 3.2 version tastes watered down and it is.

I'm definitely not defending 3.2 beer. I'm on record here many times hating on it, and pointing out that in many cases it is LITERALLY watered down. Just saying that the big beer companies obviously decided along the way that under the old laws they were going to sell tons of cold 3.2 vs very little of the strong beer version of the same, warm and in a liquor store. So they ran with it. Oklahoma created the perfect business conditions for crappy beer.

[Jersey Boss]

3.2 or 6.0 it does not matter to me. "Beer" from AB, MC, or any other factory brewery operation still will not cross my lips.

[ultimatesooner]

Agreed. I'm looking forward to a better tasting Miller Lite, not a higher ABV Miller Lite, for those occasions when I stock my fridge with cheap domestic beer.

I like cheap domestic beer because i also like expensive toys

[bluedogok]

. . not sure about shipping to home, but was in Sam's Club (39th/May) and one of their personnel showed me where the wine will be. . .back of the store between the cold food (West wall) and the seasonal. He reminded me no hard liquor (unlike Texas). . .but baby steps!!

The Texas Sam's or Costco stores that I have been in (Austin, Dallas, Midland) did not liquor in the store itself, just beer and wine. That was true when I was in the Sam's in Midland on Tuesday. The Costco stores (and Costco/Sam's here in Colorado) have separate liquor stores attached to their buildings operated by independent sellers leasing space from them. The Southpark Meadows Sam's in Austin was built about 2009 and did not have the liquor store at all, none of the ones in the Austin area had one at that time. The Costco at Mopac & WM Cannon and Research Pkwy had one. You don't need a card to buy in those attached liquor stores, it is a separate purchase.

[ctchandler]

Bluedogok,
You do know that the Texas liquor laws vary by county don't you? That could explain what you have found in some Sam's or Costco's.
C. T.

[barrettd]

I like cheap domestic beer because i also like expensive toys

I do enjoy craft beer, IPAs, etc. but if I'm drinking in bulk (football-watching, meat-smoking, sitting-on-the-patio-all-day Saturdays), I'm drinking Miller Lite or its equivalent. Plus it frees up money for ribs, or brisket, or a new smoker, or....

[Bill Robertson]

I do enjoy craft beer, IPAs, etc. but if I'm drinking in bulk (football-watching, meat-smoking, sitting-on-the-patio-all-day Saturdays), I'm drinking Miller Lite or its equivalent. Plus it frees up money for ribs, or brisket, or a new smoker, or....

I used to drink a lot of craft beer but the last few years I find myself just drinking Coors Light or Michelob Ultra. So the law changes won’t affect me at all unless it causes beer to change price considerably.

[sooner88]

Homeland on May already has their shelves stocked with wine, etc. - seems a little early, but still cool to see.

[bchris02]

I do enjoy craft beer, IPAs, etc. but if I'm drinking in bulk (football-watching, meat-smoking, sitting-on-the-patio-all-day Saturdays), I'm drinking Miller Lite or its equivalent. Plus it frees up money for ribs, or brisket, or a new smoker, or....

I agree. I’m usually a craft beer drinker but once I get to the point where I just want to maintain my buzz and not get any more inebriated I’ll switch to domestic light beer.

[d-usa]

Noticed that the 7/11 on Santa Fe and Danforth expanded and is putting in more coolers.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Gas stations are going to make killing if they get more selection!

[dankrutka]

My favorite location for craft beers where I live in Texas is a small, old convenience store that specializes in craft beer. The owner is awesome and has created a local landmark through exceptional service. He orders anything I request. Their selection is tremendous for such a small space. For example, they probably carry 10 Oklahoma beers from Prairie, Coop, and Roughtail.

[shawnw]

https://twitter.com/stevelackmeyer/s...17304325754880

Homeland has their alcohol display up at 18/Classen.

[Pete]

I took these yesterday:

[bchris02]

That's a beautiful sight! I cannot wait for October 1st. As somebody who has lived out of state and has been able to enjoy modern liquor laws, I think a lot of people underestimate how big of a deal this is. I think an even bigger deal is the fact you will now be able to get real beer for off-premises consumption past 9PM, cold, and on Sundays. Oklahoma will now finally treat adults like adults when it comes to booze.

[Pete]

We use this term too often, but this really will be a game-changer.

And there are lots of less predictable outcomes, like how all the various breweries go forward with a big new playing field... And how it will encourage many more.

I hate we can't include liquor in retail stores because we then lose out on BevMo and Wine & More (which are both fantastic) or even the ability for Costco to sell their high-quality and fantastic value vodka, tequila, etc.

But... This is a great step forward. Can't wait!