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shawnw Dowell NW 17 & Classen 09-06-2018, 12:56 AM
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  1. #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by sroberts24 View Post
    Then why on earth did he get approval for demo? There should clearly be a rule that allows demo only after all plans have been approved and a timeline established.

    Obviously this isn’t nearly the scale of stage center but still absolutely redicilous this continues. Especially with somebody with the track record Dowell does.
    1 that isn't a rule ...

    and 2 it wouldn't be enforceable in any event ..


    and 3?? a track record of development??

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    ^^at least they will be able to tell the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross MacLochness View Post
    ^^at least they will be able to tell the time


    I believe HP Commission has the authority to weigh in on items that are immediately adjacent to HP districts, but it might be non-binding at best.

    Classen really needs more design controls, not necessarily a design review board, but some minimum urban design layout standards (Form Based Code).

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    ^^To add on to that a bit, I see classen from downtown to NWE as one of OKC premier streets in the future. Lots of housing all along with decent building stock and a wide enough street to support streetcars/brt and protected bicycle amenities. If a form based code were to require a certain level of density and we move toward incorporating a wide variety of transport modes, I think classen could be an extension of Downtown.

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    Classen is basically a collector for a ton of great neighborhoods on the near NW side, including the one I inhabit.

    It's perfect for mass transit and dedicated bike lanes / paths.

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    And now a special message from Dowell Properties.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQhoZgFZgk

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHE View Post
    And now a special message from Dowell Properties.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQhoZgFZgk
    i mean, sure, but most real estate investors actually like their properties to create spendable cash flow, and it's very difficult to get financing for vacant land.

  8. #8

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    nm

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  10. Default Re: Dowell NW 17 & Classen

    That guy is a consistent April fools joke

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    Thinking about ideas... what is a structure that could actually go here and work? Maybe something like the flatiron on Harrison and NE 5th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SagerMichael View Post
    Thinking about ideas... what is a structure that could actually go here and work? Maybe something like the flatiron on Harrison and NE 5th?
    I feel like this footprint sets up nicely for some type of drive-thru convenience store, but between the failure of Cube in Norman and OnCue going in down the street, I doubt it'll happen.

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    Behold! (And no, this is not an April's Fool joke)





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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Behold! (And no, this is not an April's Fool joke)




    Found one from another angle:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Behold! (And no, this is not an April's Fool joke)




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    Did he make this building on the newest Sims game? This is hideous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Behold! (And no, this is not an April's Fool joke)




    What... in the actual f&*k is that...

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by warreng88 View Post
    What... in the actual f&*k is that...
    It's Venice!

  19. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It's Venice!
    Narrator: it wasn’t Venice...

  20. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by warreng88 View Post
    What... in the actual f&*k is that...
    So... My main complaint is the 90 degree parking on Western is dangerous, because of the speed people drive up Western from NW 16th and Western.

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    I love it

  22. #22

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    Really hoping Alley Cafe expands to this location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    Really hoping Alley Cafe expands to this location.
    I wish they'd just *move* there instead and let a real restaurant/cafe/anything take their space.

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    Anything we can do to make this less of an eyesore until Dowell's son kicks off construction in 2030?

  25. #25

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    We can only pray it stays a weedy, muddy lot vs. him building what he wants to build there.

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