LIT proposes music mural

[jbrown84]

Besides...did everyone start calling it pretty-buffalo-town when all of those retarded (sorry) buffalos were put up on every corner?

Don't apologize. They are tacky as hell. Now that's folksy. Has nothing to do with the fact that they are bison.

[bricktownlife]

What's your beef?



You paint over them or give them a touch up. Not rocket science.



That's quite the hyperbole. There's what, like 3 murals in Bricktown? A nameless alley was named after a world famous band from Oklahoma. There is plenty of Brick still showing and plenty of streets that haven't changed.



When they are painted without the permission of the building owner and other authorities. Again, doesn't take a rocket scientist...



Oh, so public art is sad now??

Well first, jbrown84, what's your definition of public art? I would define public art as any art that's accessible to the public, contrasted to a private collection that's on display in a person's home. I've always thought that public art could be found in museums, art galleries, and parks. OKC has terrific public art, including permanent and traveling exhibits at the OKC Museum of Art, IAO, Untitled Art, and in Paseo. In fact, OKC's downtown even has some pretty intriguing outdoor sculptures. So, I'm not against public art. In fact, I believe art is critically important to any community, including OKC.

But I guess I'm a little curious about people's obsession with painting murals on walls in Bricktown. Do you have the same desire to paint murals on Downtown's First National Bank Building, on Western Avenue's Will Rogers Theater, or on your own house? Probably not. But based on your definition, if it's painted on an outdoor wall, then it's public art, right? Funny, but I'm pretty sure that you (or your neighbors) wouldn't be as enthusiastic about painting murals on every exterior wall in the neighborhood.

So why are we so driven to paint murals in Bricktown?

[metro]

I'm not a fan of these huge murals. I suppose if it is done right, it could look good. Also, isn't there one that is suppose to be painted on the north end of the canal? I think I saw a rendering and thought it looked kinda tacky. Hopefully it will look good.

Actually it will be a mural although it will be made of Mosaic Tile

[jbrown84]

Well first, jbrown84, what's your definition of public art? I would define public art as any art that's accessible to the public, contrasted to a private collection that's on display in a person's home. I've always thought that public art could be found in museums, art galleries, and parks. OKC has terrific public art, including permanent and traveling exhibits at the OKC Museum of Art, IAO, Untitled Art, and in Paseo.

Nope. From wikipedia:

The term public art properly refers to works of art in any media that has been planned and executed with the specific intention of being sited or staged in the public domain, usually outside and accessible to all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_art

I've never heard of anything indoors being considered public art, especially if you have to pay to see it.

But I guess I'm a little curious about people's obsession with painting murals on walls in Bricktown. Do you have the same desire to paint murals on Downtown's First National Bank Building, on Western Avenue's Will Rogers Theater, or on your own house? Probably not. But based on your definition, if it's painted on an outdoor wall, then it's public art, right? Funny, but I'm pretty sure that you (or your neighbors) wouldn't be as enthusiastic about painting murals on every exterior wall in the neighborhood.

So why are we so driven to paint murals in Bricktown?

The reason Bricktown is different from the side of First National or my house is because it's an eclectic entertainment district. If you've ever been inside LIT, you know that whatever they have planned will be classy, modern, and cool.

[maestro]

The proposed mural seemed like a good cross-section of music to me. I know Underwood won a contest, but didn't she also win grammys this year?

In any case, I applaud the owners of LIT for the effort.

[smacketyanne]

I vote Yes to a new mural. Good Luck Guys!

[BDP]

I agree. The mural sounds cool. Of course, you can't really say without seeing it, but on the surface, I don't see how a mural of important musicians from the area wouldn't be appropriate for an entertainment district. It's almost strange that we don't have one yet.

I also think it's good that they've focused on some of the ones that aren't quite appreciated as much here as they are in many parts of the world. Let's face it, many artists leave simply because they aren't supported here. This would at least be one small way to let them know that they are appreciated back home as well.

[Easy180]

Heading there tonight w/ a group of friends for a grad celebration...Hope the weather is nice enough to hang out up top

Favorite place to be in the spring and summer and the beer prices are pretty good

[ksearls]

Minutes from BT Urban Design. On to the Arts Commission


III. CASES FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION

3A. BCA 07-003, at 209 Flaming Lips Alley. Consideration and possible action on an application for a Bricktown Certificate of Approval by M. Lane Peyton, LiT Lounge, for Joe S. Wylie, to (1) add awnings; and (2) add mural.

Mr. Brian Barnes appeared for the applicant. He submitted color renderings of the proposed mural. Mr. Rob Lewis, Parks Department, spoke about the Arts Commission process.

APPROVED, in part. Motion: Scaramucci / Bright to approve item (1) of BCA 07-003. Ayes: Wilson, Scaramucci, Bright. Nays: None. Absent: Pitman, Yoeckel.

REFERRED and CONTINUED, in part. Motion: Scaramucci / Bright to refer item (2) of BCA 07-003 to the Oklahoma City Arts Commission, and continue it for two months. Ayes: Wilson, Scaramucci, Bright. Nays: None. Absent: Pitman, Yoeckel.

[CuatrodeMayo]

So in English, this means it is partially approved?

[ksearls]

I think what this means is it has to be approved by the Arts Commission first, then it will come back to the BT Design Comm for approval.

[TheImmortal]

What I got out of it is that once the Oklahoma City Arts Commission grants their approval of the mural, then it is a go.

[ksearls]

Part one was approved (the awnings) Part two was REFERRED (to the Arts Comm)and CONTINUED (which means it comes back to them for approval. They want to see what the Arts Comm will say about it before they approve)

[John]

I'd like to see the rendering...

Anyone have access to it?

[jbrown84]

I'm glad they are going through all the steps to make sure this is a good mural. I don't doubt it is in this case, but if Jim Brewer were wanting to put up a mural of the Mathis Brothers we'd all be glad there's so much red tape.

[maestro]

Amen to that!

[SpectralMourning]

I'm glad they are going through all the steps to make sure this is a good mural. I don't doubt it is in this case, but if Jim Brewer were wanting to put up a mural of the Mathis Brothers we'd all be glad there's so much red tape.

...You're saying you wouldn't enjoy that?!

[metro]

Yeah, I'd love a huge mural on the side of Harkins with Larry Mathis in his Lazy Boy and his dog on a Natuzzi couch. That would scream Urban!

[jbrown84]

The south side of Harkins is missing something...

[CuatrodeMayo]

The south side of Harkins is missing something...

It's going to be a lovely facade on the new Boulevard.

[OKC PATROL]

Right on.

Personally, I would like to see graffiti. Graffiti would mesh better with the more urban and "hip" feel of LIT. Woohoo...another mural. Same ol, same ol. Once again, lets do what everybody else does.

Forgive me, Underwood fans, but really...she won a "reality" TV contest. Being an artificial star doesn't earn you a spot on a wall in Bricktown.

I almost have a MFA at OU and I believe that the graffiti idea would be so euro and very advanced. You can find Graffiti art or outside installations all over Amsterdam, Brugge/Antwerp, Berlin. Most of the art capitols of the world accept the spontaneity of its expression. Its a great idea to use the Flaming Lips along with other artists using graffiti as a movement and a technique instead of pasting on country music stars-barf. I hate the mural on the west side of the railroad tracks. It makes me sick when I visit Bricktown. I would have liked the more corporate sea life approach OKC was given but denied it. Although I despise what the artist is doing- i forget his name- where every city is dubbed as a city that has his mural, losing the originality of his work. His mural would have been a million times better. The mural we have now is a joke with all the dorky people waving as you go by- no better than frontier city. My mouth dropped when i saw it- its that bad. I wish a group of people could paint it one color over night. Why couldnt we had just left the dern thing alone and enjoyed the gray entrance. Now we have a a cheap disneyland mural to barf on. It might be our heritage, but we could have applied a better design and style than that hideous joke of an entance- Howdy partners...y'all come back now...ya' hear.

[jbrown84]

I have no problem with the graffiti style, as long as it's not vandalism.

[BDP]

Now we have a a cheap disneyland mural to barf on.

But it sooooo matches the Disneyland font used for the brightly lit 'Bricktown' sign on the bridges.

[jbrown84]

You don't like those Bricktown signs??

[CCOKC]

I almost have a MFA at OU and I believe that the graffiti idea would be so euro and very advanced. You can find Graffiti art or outside installations all over Amsterdam, Brugge/Antwerp, Berlin. Most of the art capitols of the world accept the spontaneity of its expression. Its a great idea to use the Flaming Lips along with other artists using graffiti as a movement and a technique instead of pasting on country music stars-barf. I hate the mural on the west side of the railroad tracks. It makes me sick when I visit Bricktown. I would have liked the more corporate sea life approach OKC was given but denied it. Although I despise what the artist is doing- i forget his name- where every city is dubbed as a city that has his mural, losing the originality of his work. His mural would have been a million times better. The mural we have now is a joke with all the dorky people waving as you go by- no better than frontier city. My mouth dropped when i saw it- its that bad. I wish a group of people could paint it one color over night. Why couldnt we had just left the dern thing alone and enjoyed the gray entrance. Now we have a a cheap disneyland mural to barf on. It might be our heritage, but we could have applied a better design and style than that hideous joke of an entance- Howdy partners...y'all come back now...ya' hear.

The artists name is Weyland.