2018 Oklahoma City Aviation Thread

[brianinok]

Monster month for April.

ViaAir starts off with 24% load factor.

https://flyokc.com/sites/default/fil...nplanement.pdf

Wow, American. And they haven't even started Philadelphia service yet.

[OUman]

I'm guessing Frontier entering the market has had at least something to do with the large jumps in passenger numbers, but it does look like more of the public is getting in more planes. Good figures overall. Also hoping Via's numbers improve but we'll see.

[catch22]

I hate to speak too soon, but if this growth maintains for the year we should hit 4.3 million or so.

[no1cub17]

Wow, American. And they haven't even started Philadelphia service yet.

Right? That is stunning growth by AA - 23% is amazing. I'm really curious how their PHL flights do. They're timed very well for European connections.

[rezman]

The Madras Maiden B-17 is in town this weekend at Wiley Post. I enjoyed the beautiful sight and sound of the four radial engines of this silver aircraft as it flew over my house several times today.

http://www.libertyfoundation.org/schedule.html

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.koco....ekend/20270518

[Richard at Remax]

I'm taking Allegiant to LV in July. How have they been flying out of OKC in terms of delayed/cancellations? I went against my own judgement but the price and flight time worked the best for me. I always hear the big problems come out of LV on departing flights. Fortunately I am flying SWA coming back.

[catch22]

Right? That is stunning growth by AA - 23% is amazing. I'm really curious how their PHL flights do. They're timed very well for European connections.

This summer will be huge for AA. Record capacity to DFW this summer, plus PHL and PHX as mentioned. 8x mainline (738/S80) 1x CR9. Previous years were such as 2005-2013 (7x MD80) and 2012-2017 (6x mainline 3x RJ)

I believe some days are 9x mainline.

[catch22]

Just found Aug 21-Sep 4 (minus Saturday) AA will also be running 3x daily to CLT.

[pure]

I'm taking Allegiant to LV in July. How have they been flying out of OKC in terms of delayed/cancellations? I went against my own judgement but the price and flight time worked the best for me. I always hear the big problems come out of LV on departing flights. Fortunately I am flying SWA coming back.

Good thing you're on Southwest coming back because there's this story....

http://kfor.com/2017/07/24/its-ridic...-in-las-vegas/

I believe the flight was suppose to come back to OKC on a Sunday but was cancelled due to mechanical issues and they couldn't get the passengers back to OKC until Thursday. Four-day delay, ouch.

[poe]

I'm excited for the Philadelphia add since I'm looking at heading there sometime in the fall months. I'd much rather drive to OKC from Amarillo to catch a direct flight than have to fly through Dallas or Houston and spend the entire day traveling. Good to see all this air activity.

[catch22]

Frontier to begin OKC-SAT (as part of a larger SAT expansion) 4x weekly beginning in August. Fares are bookable right now.

[HangryHippo]

Frontier to begin OKC-SAT (as part of a larger SAT expansion) 4x weekly beginning in August. Fares are bookable right now.

That’s a great addition. Is there enough traffic?

[catch22]

That’s a great addition. Is there enough traffic?

I think it’s a larger business market (for OKC) than Austin. So, it will be interesting to see if they can make it work. Low fares will be sure to stimulate the leisure side of that market. I can’t see them capturing any business traffic. AA WN and UA serve the business market very well from OKC to Texas.

[HOT ROD]

nice addition. AUS and now the return of SAT. IAH/HOU, DFW/DAL, SAT, AUS - Only missing major city in Texas from OKC is ELP.

It'd be very nice to get a regional to do OKC-AMA as well given OKC is the closest major city and there seems to be significant connection.

[damonsmuz]

Can someone explain this flight today? American MD-80 from Tulsa to OKC. (Not OKC to Tulsa which did have a divert because of weather). The flight number would explain that this is a rev flight and not a ferry flight.

UPDATE: NEVERMIND, I SEE IT. AA FILED IFR FROM DFW-TUL AND THEN HAD TO FILE A NEW IFR PLAN FROM TUL TO OKC BECAUSE OF STORMS

[PaddyShack]

I am looking at flying to PA in July. Now in the past I have usually flown SWA OKC to BWI for the nonstop service and I usually can't beat their price, especially with the free baggage. However, now that AA flys nonstop to PHL it gives me another option. However, is AA worth paying $50 more plus the baggage fee over SWA? For background, once I land I drive to Lancaster, PA which is 1 hr 49 minutes from BWI or 1 hr 21 mins from PHL. Both cities have places that I enjoy to visit once I land. This is strictly wondering whether AA is a better experience and if PHL is a better airport to go through than BWI. Both flights leave OKC at the same time and arrive at the same time. Just an interesting question to see what y'alls thoughts are, thanks!

[Celebrator]

I would stick with SWA. BWI is easier to navigate and Baltimore is a smaller city/metro so you're likely to run into less traffic. Also, AA likely will be using some sort of regional jet equipment on the route (probably an Embraer E-Jet series) which are a bit smaller than the 737s SWA uses. And then, as you already mentioned, free bags on SWA. However, if you just want to change it up and try a new aircraft, new city/airport, then give it a shot. My gut just tells me using BWI with SWA will be easier.

[no1cub17]

I am looking at flying to PA in July. Now in the past I have usually flown SWA OKC to BWI for the nonstop service and I usually can't beat their price, especially with the free baggage. However, now that AA flys nonstop to PHL it gives me another option. However, is AA worth paying $50 more plus the baggage fee over SWA? For background, once I land I drive to Lancaster, PA which is 1 hr 49 minutes from BWI or 1 hr 21 mins from PHL. Both cities have places that I enjoy to visit once I land. This is strictly wondering whether AA is a better experience and if PHL is a better airport to go through than BWI. Both flights leave OKC at the same time and arrive at the same time. Just an interesting question to see what y'alls thoughts are, thanks!

Which airline do you plan on flying most in the future? If you're mostly a WN flyer then just stick with WN. If you're planning on shifting some flying to AA then maybe worth getting a Citi or Barclays AA credit card which gets you a free checked bag. I think the E75s are AA's most comfortable airplane actually so I wouldn't let that deter you.

[HangryHippo]

Which airline do you plan on flying most in the future? If you're mostly a WN flyer then just stick with WN. If you're planning on shifting some flying to AA then maybe worth getting a Citi or Barclays AA credit card which gets you a free checked bag. I think the E75s are AA's most comfortable airplane actually so I wouldn't let that deter you.

Took the words right out of my mouth. My loyalty to AA gets me miles so that would impact my decision and I love the Embraer jets. But if neither is of any consequence to you, stick with Baltimore.

[PaddyShack]

Thanks, I have primarily flown with SWA mainly because of the free baggage. But I also never enjoyed having to fly through DFW or IAH. SWA has always been more direct for my particular trips. I would love to have more nonstop flights to the New England area though.

[catch22]

I would stick with SWA. BWI is easier to navigate and Baltimore is a smaller city/metro so you're likely to run into less traffic. Also, AA likely will be using some sort of regional jet equipment on the route (probably an Embraer E-Jet series) which are a bit smaller than the 737s SWA uses. And then, as you already mentioned, free bags on SWA. However, if you just want to change it up and try a new aircraft, new city/airport, then give it a shot. My gut just tells me using BWI with SWA will be easier.

So 2x2 assigned seating with 18 rows is worse than 3x3 unassigned seating with 25rows? I hate the stigma that RJ’s have. I prefer the E175 to literally any mainline sized jet.

[Celebrator]

So 2x2 assigned seating with 18 rows is worse than 3x3 unassigned seating with 25rows? I hate the stigma that RJ’s have. I prefer the E175 to literally any mainline sized jet.

Never said that, just stating facts--my post said that the E-Jets are smaller than a 737.

I have flown on AA E-Jets and liked them a lot. But I would take a 737 over an ERJ or Canadair. I just hope the PHL route is served with an E-Jet--I assume it will be.

[PaddyShack]

Never said that, just stating facts--my post said that the E-Jets are smaller than a 737.

I have flown on AA E-Jets and liked them a lot. But I would take a 737 over an ERJ or Canadair. I just hope the PHL route is served with an E-Jet--I assume it will be.

Based on the AA website it is an ERJ... I am not that tall of a person, but I have never been quite comfortable in the smaller jets compared to the 737.

However, I forgot to mention that I plan on flying on July 4th, so PHL might be out due to the traffic congestion for the holiday. BWI seems to be an easier in and out.

[Celebrator]

Based on the AA website it is an ERJ... I am not that tall of a person, but I have never been quite comfortable in the smaller jets compared to the 737.

However, I forgot to mention that I plan on flying on July 4th, so PHL might be out due to the traffic congestion for the holiday. BWI seems to be an easier in and out.

Probably a good move. Too bad it's an ERJ, too, those are really cramped feeling to me. I mean, I can handle it flying down to DFW from here, but all the way out to PHL would seem long. WRWA's ads for the service on Instagram have been showing E-Jets, so I assumed that was going to be the equipment on the route.

[no1cub17]

Based on the AA website it is an ERJ... I am not that tall of a person, but I have never been quite comfortable in the smaller jets compared to the 737.

However, I forgot to mention that I plan on flying on July 4th, so PHL might be out due to the traffic congestion for the holiday. BWI seems to be an easier in and out.

OKC-PHL will be operated by an E75, not ERJ.