The obese gentleman threatens to kill them as well... Lovely bunch of good ol' boys.
The obese gentleman threatens to kill them as well... Lovely bunch of good ol' boys.
I don't know what the story is supposed to be, but pulling up on the wrong side of the road on a bike next to a driver to have words with him seems like a really bad idea.
I guess this was near Bixby?
Does not put our state in good light, to say the least.
Reminds of this road rage incident in California where the cyclist got away and a couple of other people didn't.
https://signalscv.com/2017/06/biker-...-crash-injury/
The bad thing about this video is that, like many others out there, you don't get to see what led up to the to the stop on the road. So it's real easy to blame the good ole' farm boys for causing the trouble. It looks to me more like a group of hot doggers out for a ride and they took on more than they bargained for.
No matter what came before, pulling a gun and threatening people with it is a serious crime.
Yeah, at most the motorcycle could be cited for driving on the wrong side of the road.
The good old boys are guilty of assault and battery, brandishing a weapon, making threats to kill and injure, armed robbery and maybe obstruction of justice and probably more.
Agreed.
We don't know what other serious crimes may have been committed before that either. It's obvious this was some kind of ongoing traveling incident in that they drive for a couple of minutes up onto the red pickup who is stopped with a gun already pointed out the window. Had to be plenty happen before that not in the video.
Around 3:10 the voice off camera says something like "I don't have a problem with you. Don't f'ing don't cut me off when I got the kids in the car." Did he mean kids in the truck? Who cut who off? It's possible the cyclists started the whole incident with reckless actions that turned into words, cat and mouse, phone a friend, and ended with what we saw on the video. Or not even close.
It just goes to show how silly it is to get that angry over anything, but especially over some perceived cut-off while driving.
You never know who you are dealing with and there are plenty of people who don't have much to lose and/or don't value life; either their own or anyone else's. And let's face it, there are lots of people running around with guns and not a lot of sense.
Like the guy that shot and killed the younger guy in the Target parking lot after the two had some sort of road rage incident. Frankly, I'm just as concerned about the angry middle-aged dude (believe he was around 60 or so) as I am some tough-looking kid.
When someone does something ridiculous on the road I really, really try to say to myself, "It happens" and just move on. There is nothing but bad things that result if you do anything more, no matter how wrong you perceive the other person to have been.
Yep. Time to take a deep breath, slow down, back off. Forget about it.
I've never had much of a temper but certainly have a male competitiveness about me that sometimes gets misdirected. The need to stand up for myself, not take crap, etc.
But the older I get the more I realize anger is the domain of those who don't have the emotional intelligence to deal with things in any other way.
To the extent I can, I give such types a wide berth. And the last thing I want to do is engage some random stranger while they are frothing. Just them being in that state in the first place tells me a lot and reaffirms why it's so important to not interact with such types.
Stealing the camera with video evidence isn't the behavior of innocent people. And if you are going to steal one camera under threat of a gun, you better be sure you have ALL the cameras.
I'm a pretty aggressive driver at times but not in a rage about it. I wasn't driving aggressively at the time but I think I must have cut someone off on the east side of town heading back into OKC on I-40 a few weeks ago. I had a truck I had not even noticed haul up fast around me, cut me off to get ahead of me, slow down for a half mile but not like they were trying to get me to rear end them, just to assert they owned that lane I guess. Then after 30 seconds or a minute, they cut across a couple of empty lanes onto an off ramp. It was weird. No reason for it other than to prove something. Made me think I wasn't paying enough attention to my driving since I had no idea what this was about.
People are just flat out effing stupid, and this is the reason I am very pro self-driving cars. The other day I really offended someone by driving the posted speed limit. I assume I offended them, because otherwise why take the risk of passing in a clearly-marked no passing zone (which was marked that way because it was a hill)? Anyway, there was a van about 4-5 car lengths ahead of me that saw this happen in his rear-view mirror and decided he'll do 45 in a 55 for awhile, just to annoy the idiot who was now behind him/in front of me. Whenever it was safe to pass, he would speed up to the speed limit, dropping back down to 45 when there was traffic in the on-coming lane.
I'll admit I laughed, but let's be honest...the driver of the van was an asshole too. Removing both of these people from the road would be a REALLY great thing.
I like the blue shirt guy realizes he just did everything on about 4 cameras and peels his magnet logo off his truck near the end. Too late, the internet is already spam calling and emailing the company. RIP his career.
People need to just stop doing stupid things. You are on camera 24/7.
^^^ This is where I'm coming from. It's so easy to get caught up in what we see, that we forget to ask "what did we not see ?". And it was obvious the guys down the road were waiting. And they all knew each other. My point was you never know what your going to get yourself into when you take someone on.
Although the lack of privacy is a bit scary, I generally feel like if you need to be hiding something you shouldn't be doing it at all.
The law still protects all of us from violations of privacy where that privacy is to be reasonably expected. But if you are out on the road or in another somewhat public space, then it's a good thing there are cameras because that's the best protection for those of us who obey the law.
Video is awesome because it tells its own story. Yes, there often needs to be a fuller context but fundamentally the camera doesn't lie and you immediately can move past the 'I didn't do what he said', etc.
Imagine merely reading about this story: "A man on a motorcycle got into a scuffle with another man in an apparent road rage incident." Completely different that what you experience by watching that vid.
Video forces you to confront harsh realities. You see these people and the way they look and talk and how they brandish weapons and threaten lives over something absolutely silly. That's extremely unsettling for those of us who work hard to insulate ourselves from crap like this.
But it doesn't at all change there are way, way more people out there like this then any of us would like to believe and that in an instant a fit of anger could change your life forever.
Looks like some city boys on their fancy little bikes learned u can't go to the country and mess with people the hard way, guy in the helmet was begging that truck to pull over and got slapped around with his helmet on, hopefully they learn to be a little more respectful of people on the road from now on
One of the odd things in the video...the guy in the bib overalls who had the gun, later seems to be helping the biker who got the beat down, then gets in a shoving match with another biker.
Something very strange and ominous about how the pickup was already stopped up ahead and the guy was waiting and ready to use his gun.
The bottom line is that the bikers may get a slap on the wrist but those other dudes could easily go to jail and the one who pointed the gun and threatened could go to prison for a long time.
I'm morbidly curious to see how this plays out and what had happened before the camera started rolling. I suspect the bikers felt like the guy in the first truck did something uncool so they started harassing him back, then the driver called his buddy to help him deal with the bikers.
Did heavy loud mouth guy with the tats on his fat pull a knife at the end of video?
The media has picked up on this, Payne County Sheriff is investigating. Cameras are everywhere.
That other pickup on the side of the road was the first thing I noticed. The Bubba Syndicate was in full force there and those motorcyclists didn't even notice it.
Both growing up in a rural community and still spending a lot of time in rural areas. One thing you have to always realize about a lot of rural men.... There isn't a problem in this world they don't think can't be fixed with a good ass whoopin and if they have to put on a bigger boot to do it they will.
Not saying it's right but it's their culture and how they view what it means to be a "Real Man". It's also a big reason why while I enjoy a lot of the same things as most rural men. I do them by myself and stay away from the Bubba Syndicate.
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