Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
From my experience, you're actually a lot more argumentative than I am. I am getting really tired of having to explain in yet another thread the value of keeping discussions topical and evaluating based on only the merits that are evident. Not many of you OKC Talkers these days would make good Erasmuses.

What's funny is that after you flipped out on me several more posters chimed in that this project is visibly falling apart. The Century Center is not a renovation-worthy structure and there isn't much way to argue that, especially when you consider the site that it occupies. Yet, this gets "preserved" and "redeveloped" whilst the Stage Center site, equally as valuable, must be razed to make way for growth! These outcomes are too incongruent to not notice.

This Century Center project was acceptable on this site given that the structure was to be expanded, reskinned, and for the most part repurposed. Now that this project is falling apart and the MOL sf is shrinking faster than this board's credibility lately, the smart thing would be to just call the whole thing off. This site needs a real development.
I agree. This site is the most central location with the most worthy building of being torn down and having a 40 story tower built on it. It can be torn down sold to the second highest bidder of the Stage Center site, redeveloped having OPUBCO on the second and third floors with retail on the first floor having a parking garage on floors 4 through 12 building services on 13 (unlucky floor) and then residential or offices floors 14-40. That is what I think would be a better use for the site. Stretching the building from one corner of the lot to the other would add square footage and probably an extra 40 spaces per floor at least. Mahogony can still go on the first floor the jumbotron can still go on the second floor, but after that we can have development worthy of the site overlooking the Myriad Gardens, next to 3 hotels, and a block from the Devon Tower and First National.