[QUOTE=fromdust]
Quote Originally Posted by okieopus
Thanks Scribe.

The "attack on Christmas" bloviating morons like Bill O'Rielly made it up!

i know he totally made it up! like he would say put down the kool aid. i'd like to see you prove that he made it up. youve been reading too many news papers, man.

every one have a happy ramahaunakwanzmas!

I'm not sure if you're referring to okieopus or myself, but I'll chime in anyway.

Yes, yes... you are right from dust. We are all better off sticking our head in the sand than "reading too many news papers." Ignorance is bliss, as they say. Here's a sampling of some of what I learned the past couple of weeks from "reading too many news papers," as demonstrated in the Bill O'Reilly thread:


  • "Bill O'Reilly is making the claim that Saginaw Township officials banned residents from wearing red and green during the holiday season. Local officials say he's dead wrong." (Read story here)

  • "Bill O'Reilly falsely claimed that the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) no longer offers Christmas postage stamps with a "spiritual" theme... In fact, in addition to the "Holiday Cookies" stamps the caller cited, the USPS continues to offer the commemorative "Madonna and Child" stamp." (Read the story here)

  • "On December 9, Bill O'Reilly falsely claimed on both Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor and the nationally syndicated The Radio Factor with Bill O'ReillyPlano Independent School District (Texas) "told students they couldn't wear red and green because they were Christmas colors." He labeled the alleged ban "fascism." On December 12, the school district released an official statement by Superintendent of Schools Dr. Doug Otto refuting O'Reilly's contention: "The school district does not restrict students or staff from wearing certain color clothes during holiday times or any other school days," noted Dr. Otto, who said that the school district's attorney has requested that Mr. O'Reilly retract the statement." (Read the story here)

I, for one, am not claiming that there is not effort by a few non-Christian secularists to remove religious symbols and overt religious expression from public places; it's nothing new. However, I am challenging Bill O'Reilly's crusade against a vast conspiracy to "take Christ out of Christmas." There may be a small minority who is doing just that, but IMHO there is no massively coordinated "War on Christmas." And, indeed, Bill O'Reilly is making much of it up, as illustrated in the above three examples.