Quote Originally Posted by irishtate View Post
Oh I totally agree. And even that turn lane "storage length" and "bay taper" (thank you Google), can't be more that 3-5 cars right there. Most drivers won't care that their a** end is hanging out into the road from that turn lane.
Yeah, unfortunately I see that happen every time I'm out, and can't really blame the driver, but I personally hate to have any effect on anybody else while I'm driving, so I try not to do that unless it's absolutely necessary. I also almost never turn left out of someplace onto May at any point, fool's errand most of the time, usually quicker to just turn right, turn left into someplace, and then turn right back out again. We might just have to take back ways up to Sprouts on our regular Sat shopping trips (we already do sometimes from right past there, turning on 57th), since it's usually a cluster from there on north to past 63rd.