Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
If someone cuts me off in my car on my way to Target, and I honk at them, and they then follow me to the parking lot and shoot me in a fit of road rage, did I use "poor judgement" because I should have reasonably suspected the guy to be crazy?

Two groups shouting stupid stuff at each other = two groups being stupid and using poor judgement. But when one group gets a pose together with guns and knifes and threatens death while beating someone up, the verbal stupidity stops mattering and the group that escalates becomes the stupid party.
The bikers are the first to escalate the situation. They had 14 miles to go away.