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  1. #351
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    What in the hell was wrong with the original design? I don't understand what this city does sometimes... Why do we pick apart this development when RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD there's a parking lot being built with a hideous hotel as a side project?

  2. #352

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOne View Post
    What in the hell was wrong with the original design? I don't understand what this city does sometimes... Why do we pick apart this development when RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD there's a parking lot being built with a hideous hotel as a side project?
    That hotel down the street isn't approved yet - and won't be in the configuration we saw.

  3. #353

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    That hotel down the street isn't approved yet - and won't be in the configuration we saw.
    they didn't have a big problem with that site layout during the informal presentation

  4. #354

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    they didn't have a big problem with that site layout during the informal presentation
    That is probably because they were dumbfounded by the building itself.

  5. #355

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    Original, Alt 2, or Alt 3 - IMO.

  6. #356

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    good design, good project.

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    Option 3 please

  8. #358

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    I think Alternative 4 is the best option.
    I agree. That is my pick.


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    It really is ridiculous considering the crap that has been approved. This project is high quality and some of the comments were ridiculous. I loved that they pointed out that they weren't trying to create a fake Disney Land atmosphere.

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    This is an okay project, but please don't confuse it for a high quality project. As long as they continue to allow cheap and noisy through the wall air conditioning units they will be marginally better than motels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    This is an okay project, but please don't confuse it for a high quality project. As long as they continue to allow cheap and noisy through the wall air conditioning units they will be marginally better than motels.
    Amen

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    And please tell me how you would give each room it's own unit without making it cost twice as much?

    And did they remember all the utter crap they approved in lower bricktown? Please

  13. #364

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombermwc View Post
    And please tell me how you would give each room it's own unit without making it cost twice as much?

    And did they remember all the utter crap they approved in lower bricktown? Please
    They have no say or sway over Lower Bricktown.

  14. #365
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafeboeuf View Post
    They have no say or sway over Lower Bricktown.
    Cafe, how is Lower Bricktown excluded from design reviews? Or is it under the watch of a different review board?

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    The city never placed Lower Bricktown under the design ordinance. Design for Lower Bricktown is regulated by the Urban Renewal Authority.

  16. #367

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOne View Post
    Cafe, how is Lower Bricktown excluded from design reviews? Or is it under the watch of a different review board?
    It's because the BDC doesn't have purview over Lower Bricktown. It's under a different review board, not sure if its Downtown Review or another, or if at all.

  17. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    The city never placed Lower Bricktown under the design ordinance. Design for Lower Bricktown is regulated by the Urban Renewal Authority.
    That's our problem!

  18. #369

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    The city never placed Lower Bricktown under the design ordinance. Design for Lower Bricktown is regulated by the Urban Renewal Authority.
    thanks for the great blog post steve

  19. #370

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidburgess View Post
    It is certainly part of it. The other part is that there isn't a major planning vision that guides either of these bodies.
    That's not entirely true. Bricktown has regulations and design guidelines that should shape design issues. They also have their Strategic Plan, a great work by AJ and others.

  20. #371

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOne View Post
    That's our problem!
    And when the City informally approached the owner of Lower Bricktown about having design review... well, you can imagine the answer.

  21. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafeboeuf View Post
    And when the City informally approached the owner of Lower Bricktown about having design review... well, you can imagine the answer.
    I sure enough can. Can the city implement design review without his consent? Is it something property owners have to agree to be bound by? Or how does that aspect work?

  22. #373

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOne View Post
    I sure enough can. Can the city implement design review without his consent? Is it something property owners have to agree to be bound by? Or how does that aspect work?
    It's a zoning overlay or base zoning (depending on the type). They City would have to initiate a rezoning and send it through Planning Commission and City Council. Doing it without his consent would normally never work. The City just withdrew its application from the NE 8th and Lincoln area where they were rezoning a whole neighborhood without consent. While this is different, the politics involved are not dissimilar.

  23. #374

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    Besides, Lower Bricktown is built out isn't it. I thought KD's took the last site.

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    officially - yes. technically - HE%L no.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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