New Downtown Arena

[jn1780]

Rereading this quote it makes sense now. Its going to apply to NBA logos and merchandise that NBA teams already licenses and control. So i doubt that any kind of color or other sayings on shirts will be banned.

The Wall, which will hold up to 4,500 fans in total, has a strict set of rules, too. Those seated there won't be permitted to cheer for or wear the gear of opposing teams.

"This section is for Clippers fans only," the team's website says. "If you choose to be a part of The Wall, you (and your guests) can't cheer for the opposing team or wear any gear that supports our opponents."

lol i highly doubt it. Favorite NBA team isn't a protected class lol

the mentality of society is just mind blowing to me

No, but it is very easily to accidently infringe on the rights of a protected class.

[jn1780]

From the article above about The Wall above:



It does look like it's pretty in your face from the upper sections. I'm sure the camera perspective / lens is exaggerating it some, but that will be a pretty big screen in close proximity to some fans.

Does that score board retract back into the rafters? It would be kind of distracting during concerts unless they incorporated into the act somehow?

[BDP]

Not allowing non-clippers fans on the wall sounds like slippery slope territory to me. Expect at least one 'discrimination' lawsuit. They will have to be careful how they write the guidelines and fine print.

It's really just about joining a fan club that has perks, including access to a certain section of the arena, and the barrier to entry is minimal:

https://www.nba.com/clippers/chuckmark

I'm not really sure anyone would take it seriously enough to bring a suit and try and prove damage. I do, however, think they have essentially created a challenge to opposing fans who will look at infiltrating the wall and receiving an ejection as a badge of honor. This will probably happen on day 1. lol

[PhiAlpha]

This will continue to annoy me for years to come. Our tax dollars went toward paying for over something around 90% of this building but it's the rich dudes who chipped in 5% who are going to control the space.

Your tax dollars went toward paying for the clippers new arena? Because that’s what we’re referring to.

OKC’s arena and the new one will be publicly owned as has been stated 1000 times here.

[BDP]

what message is on your clothing and what you say during a game are both free speech issues .. selling your ticket is a entire other can of worms ..

I'd assume that as long as they're selling comparable seats at comparable prices elsewhere in the arena, it would be harder to make an infringement case.

I do agree though, limiting how and to whom you can sell your tickets is legally questionable. And I'm all in favor of anyone who sues Ticketmaster. For any reason. Ha.

[dhpersonal]

Your tax dollars went toward paying for the clippers new arena? Because that’s what we’re referring to.

OKC’s arena and the new one will be publicly owned as has been stated 1000 times here.

Oh, this thread was for the new OKC arena, so I thought that's what we were talking about.

As for the publicly-owned thing, I can't believe I missed that! I'm happy to be proven wrong: this is a publicy-owned building. https://www.okc.gov/Home/Components/News/News/4564/18 However, I think I should have expressed my sentiments a little more clearly. https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...-funded-arena/

[aDark]

Oh, this thread was for the new OKC arena, so I thought that's what we were talking about.

As for the publicly-owned thing, I can't believe I missed that! I'm happy to be proven wrong: this is a publicy-owned building. https://www.okc.gov/Home/Components/News/News/4564/18 However, I think I should have expressed my sentiments a little more clearly. https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...-funded-arena/

The vote passed. The City will own the arena. Sour grapes discussions belong elsewhere.

Now, if you want to discuss this arena we're about to build, let's hear it!

[PoliSciGuy]

what message is on your clothing and what you say during a game are both free speech issues .. selling your ticket is a entire other can of worms ..

No they aren't free speech issues. The Clippers aren't the US government, they can absolutely regulate what speech is said at their private event. The First Amendment starts with "Congress shall make no law...", not "Steve Ballmer shall make no law..."

[CatholicSooner]

I'd assume that as long as they're selling comparable seats at comparable prices elsewhere in the arena, it would be harder to make an infringement case.

I do agree though, limiting how and to whom you can sell your tickets is legally questionable. And I'm all in favor of anyone who sues Ticketmaster. For any reason. Ha.

I don't think they would be limiting who you sell your ticket to. They would be limiting what you can wear in a certain area.
I guess dress codes at restaurants or golf courses are an infringment too?

[BoulderSooner]

I don't think they would be limiting who you sell your ticket to. They would be limiting what you can wear in a certain area.
I guess dress codes at restaurants or golf courses are an infringment too?

no they are going to try to limit who you can sell a ticket to only those preapproved and only in the clippers ecosystem ..

[bison34]

no they are going to try to limit who you can sell a ticket to only those preapproved and only in the clippers ecosystem ..

And they can do that, because they are a private company. If it hurts their bottom line in the long run, they either change or don't.

[BoulderSooner]

And they can do that, because they are a private company. If it hurts their bottom line in the long run, they either change or don't.

maybe maybe not ... a court will likely decide

[Laramie]

It's decision time; let's get the location and some preliminary designs released; much like we did with the Bricktown Ballpark.

[bison34]

It's decision time; let's get the location and some preliminary designs released; much like we did with the Bricktown Ballpark.

You won't get all of that until next year, or at least the last quarter of this year. Might get the location, though. If you are holding your breath to get designs released, you will be holding it for a while.

[PhiAlpha]

maybe maybe not ... a court will likely decide

I mean I try never to underestimate the stupidity of the general public…but why? Just purchase tickets somewhere else in the arena if you want to go. There will be 13,500 other seats that fans of any team can purchase and an entire upper deck that is probably in a similar or lower price range. Highly doubt this ever ends up in any court.

[bison34]

I mean I try never to underestimate the stupidity of the general public…but why? Just purchase tickets somewhere else in the arena if you want to go. There will be 13,500 other seats that fans of any team can purchase and an entire upper deck that is probably in a similar or lower price range. Highly doubt this ever ends up in any court.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

[OkieBerto]

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

I kid you not I had a t-shirt that said this quote.

[CatholicSooner]

no they are going to try to limit who you can sell a ticket to only those preapproved and only in the clippers ecosystem ..

I still see no issues with it

[CatholicSooner]

maybe maybe not ... a court will likely decide

I really really doubt it

[CatholicSooner]

You won't get all of that until next year, or at least the last quarter of this year. Might get the location, though. If you are holding your breath to get designs released, you will be holding it for a while.

So where do you guys think the new arena will be?

[Laramie]

So where do you guys think the new arena will be?

Prairie Surf Media (Old Myriad Convention Center (4 square blocks of prime land) in downtown. They will need to
clear this site and build from the garage basement parking up.

[CatholicSooner]

Prairie Surf Media (Old Myriad Convention Center (4 square blocks of prime land) in downtown. They will need to
clear this site and build from the garage basement parking up.

I'd put my money there as well.

[Bill Robertson]

I was just told by someone who "knows" that the Mayor has decided to use the arena funds for other things and do a new arena campaign/vote. Oh, and they're going to leave the old fairgrounds arena and have two side by side.
Where does this kind of stuff get started?

[bison34]

I was just told by someone who "knows" that the Mayor has decided to use the arena funds for other things and do a new arena campaign/vote. Oh, and they're going to leave the old fairgrounds arena and have two side by side.
Where does this kind of stuff get started?

What in the Qanon is that guy smoking?

[Tyson]

I was just told by someone who "knows" that the Mayor has decided to use the arena funds for other things and do a new arena campaign/vote. Oh, and they're going to leave the old fairgrounds arena and have two side by side.
Where does this kind of stuff get started?

This made me laugh. OKC seems to hold many who hate their own city, which is really sad and quite unreasonable, and make up falsehood like this to influence how others see the city. I hear disinformation and complaints about OKC at work far too frequently. Obviously we can't expect everyone to be fully knowledgeable of city developments but the straight up lies are sad to me.