KFOR story on Canton Lake

[law]

Yesterday, KFOR ran a story on Canton Lake. At the end of the story, Ed Donley said the OKCWT said they had a two year water supply. That statement was blatantly false or totally incorrect for those dependent on Hefner for their water supply. Hefner has approx 20,000 acre/ft of water. OKC uses 1 to 1 1/2 acre/ft per week (depending on the time of year, evaporation/etc). Without rain, OKC has 3 to 5 months of water available in Hefner.

Wouldn't it be better to start conserving some water now, and avoid an extreme situation later?

[Of Sound Mind]

No.

[CuatrodeMayo]

No.

Why not?

[Plutonic Panda]

oh boy, another thread on Canton lake to keep the conversation going. The lake was built with the purpose to serve other water needs, not for the city. If the people of Canton want to act entitled, then fence off the entire lake and do NOT let anyone on or near it even when it is full.

[RadicalModerate]

Regardless of the details of the latest K4NewZStory, MY "plan" is for less lawn and more xeriscaping.
Pet Lawns require a lot of water that actual people who like Pet Lawns could be drinking.
I will continue to water the herb garden. On account of I like to cook.
And wash dishes, flush the toilet, etc. =)

[Urban Pioneer]

Regardless of the details of the latest K4NewZStory, MY "plan" is for less lawn and more xeriscaping.
Pet Lawns require a lot of water that actual people who like Pet Lawns could be drinking.
I will continue to water the herb garden. On account of I like to cook.
And wash dishes, flush the toilet, etc. =)

Simply forcing the addition of rain and freeze sensors to existing and new lawn sprinkler systems would make a huge difference. And also, what is it with the obsession with short grass in OKC? I have a four inch Bermuda lawn that I keep at my girl's house. All it needs is 10 minutes of water twice a week in the hottest part of the summer.

[catch22]

Simply forcing the addition of rain and freeze sensors to existing and new lawn sprinkler systems would make a huge difference. And also, what is it with the obsession with short grass in OKC? I have a four inch Bermuda lawn that I keep at my girl's house. All it needs is 10 minutes of water twice a week in the hottest part of the summer.

Also, people don't condition their yards very well...

From the first sunny day in late winter, early spring, the watering begins. The roots never grow deep, because water is always available to it. By letting the grass grow and seek water on it's own during the spring, by the summer time the roots are much deeper and they are much stronger and use less tap water to stay alive and green.

[Plutonic Panda]

Also, people don't condition their yards very well...

From the first sunny day in late winter, early spring, the watering begins. The roots never grow deep, because water is always available to it. By letting the grass grow and seek water on it's own during the spring, by the summer time the roots are much deeper and they are much stronger and use less tap water to stay alive and green.

That's true in some cases. Others, people just put grass in that have shallow roots and can't tolerate drought very well, but again, that is up to the people to be smart with their lawns. I am all for free market and being able to decide for ourselves what is good, so hopefully people plant the right grass so the city doesn't have to make an ordinance regulating what kinds of grasses are allowed here.

[Just the facts]

I am amazed the City of Oklahoma City still allows new homes to be built with lawns, especially with the existing inventory of single family large lot homes available in the metro area. If I was a the owner of one of the existing single family homes the last thing I would want is more built - especially with 2nd housing collapse coming. They should cut off the creation of new large-lot inventory to protect the existing investments made by 10's of thousands of city residents.

[RadicalModerate]

I am amazed the City of Oklahoma City still allows new homes to be built with lawns, especially with the existing inventory of single family large lot homes available in the metro area. If I was a the owner of one of the existing single family homes the last thing I would want is more built - especially with 2nd housing collapse coming. They should cut off the creation of new large-lot inventory to protect the existing investments made by 10's of thousands of city residents.

Hold up thar' jist a minute amigo/pardner . . . Are you sayin' 'r implyin' that the gubmint has some sorta "right" t' interfere wif MY PERSONAL landscapin' ideas? 'r "ideals" as the case may be? We're tawkin' 'bout water here, fer cripes sake . . . Do I really have t' post that thar Eddie Arnold/Sons o' The Pioneers/Roy Rogers/Whomever vid clip t' git the point across? (the "Cool Water" vid clip . . . not that other one =)

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[Garin]

I am amazed the City of Oklahoma City still allows new homes to be built with lawns, especially with the existing inventory of single family large lot homes available in the metro area. If I was a the owner of one of the existing single family homes the last thing I would want is more built - especially with 2nd housing collapse coming. They should cut off the creation of new large-lot inventory to protect the existing investments made by 10's of thousands of city residents.

I would be all in favor of astro turf yards, seeing that I hate mowing.

[OKCRT]

I would be all in favor of astro turf yards, seeing that I hate mowing.

With the dry conditions and all the wild fires breaking out everybody needs to water their yards pronto! I am gonna let my sprinklers run tonight for several hours and do it again tomorrow.

[trousers]

With the dry conditions and all the wild fires breaking out everybody needs to water their yards pronto! I am gonna let my sprinklers run tonight for several hours and do it again tomorrow.

Odd/even evidently doesn't mean a lot to some.

[venture]

With the dry conditions and all the wild fires breaking out everybody needs to water their yards pronto! I am gonna let my sprinklers run tonight for several hours and do it again tomorrow.

Hopefully this was sarcasm. If not, mind sharing your address so we can have the city come by to see how amazing your yard is?

[Plutonic Panda]

Hopefully this was sarcasm. If not, mind sharing your address so we can have the city come by to see how amazing your yard is?

what a waste of the taxpayers money.... Taking services away and devoting them to a show of yards now because you are not fond of people that take pride in their yard and water it? I hope your yard is xeriscaped; mine is halfway xeriscaped.

[CuatrodeMayo]

I would be all in favor of astro turf yards, seeing that I hate mowing.

[BBatesokc]

I would be all in favor of astro turf yards, seeing that I hate mowing.

I looked into it a few years ago when we were in our old house with a much smaller yard. Problem was the expense. I was shocked how expensive a typical yard is to convert. But, the quality has gone way up over the years. I saw some around homes in Austin and you could not tell the difference between the fake grass and the real grass.Between the cost of the materials and the prep involved in doing it right - it was WAY out of reach for me.

[Garin]

I looked into it a few years ago when we were in our old house with a much smaller yard. Problem was the expense. I was shocked how expensive a typical yard is to convert. But, the quality has gone way up over the years. I saw some around homes in Austin and you could not tell the difference between the fake grass and the real grass.Between the cost of the materials and the prep involved in doing it right - it was WAY out of reach for me.

I've worked on a couple houses in recent that both opted for turf in the backyard, it didn't hurt that one of the owners sold turf for a living. They both used the same turf that the colleges use on their football field. it looked and felt awesome.

[law]

In response to some, my thread was not about Canton, but rather about OKC's situation, especially the last comment made in the story. Those dependent on Canton/Hefner do not have two years of water stored. I have presented the facts about the amount of water stored in Hefner and the amount of water used by those dependent on Hefner.

[OSUFan]

In response to some, my thread was not about Canton, but rather about OKC's situation, especially the last comment made in the story. Those dependent on Canton/Hefner do not have two years of water stored. I have presented the facts about the amount of water stored in Hefner and the amount of water used by those dependent on Hefner.

If you didn't intend this to be about Canton Lake maybe you shouldn't have put Canton Lake in the title of the thread.

[Snowman]

Yesterday, KFOR ran a story on Canton Lake. At the end of the story, Ed Donley said the OKCWT said they had a two year water supply. That statement was blatantly false or totally incorrect for those dependent on Hefner for their water supply. Hefner has approx 20,000 acre/ft of water. OKC uses 1 to 1 1/2 acre/ft per week (depending on the time of year, evaporation/etc). Without rain, OKC has 3 to 5 months of water available in Hefner.

Wouldn't it be better to start conserving some water now, and avoid an extreme situation later?

I could almost see the phrase two year water supply being chosen for another reason, there are already plans to build a second pipeline to Atoka and some yet to be selected method to Sardis, I am pretty sure that it was expected to take two years to construct. Which if there is only two years the current system can be assured without disruption, it might give an extra political push to starting construction now.

[mkjeeves]

KFOR's reporting could be inaccurate too. Does anyone besides the people in NW Oklahoma watch KFOR?

[RadicalModerate]

KFOR's reporting could be inaccurate too. Does anyone besides the people in NW Oklahoma watch KFOR?

I ain't shure . . . does they?

[Plutonic Panda]

I ain't shure . . . does they?

retiny

[RadicalModerate]

I could almost see the phrase two year water supply being chosen for another reason, there are already plans to build a second pipeline to Atoka and some yet to be selected method to Sardis, I am pretty sure that it was expected to take two years to construct. Which if there is only two years the current system can be assured without disruption, it might give an extra political push to starting construction now.

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