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    Default SIAP: Off-duty OHP trooper kills would-be burglar in Deep Deuce

    Suspect Killed After Attempted Home Invasion In Deep Deuce - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

    Well then. Definitely makes me feel better to know a cop lives right down the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1cub17 View Post
    Suspect Killed After Attempted Home Invasion In Deep Deuce - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

    Well then. Definitely makes me feel better to know a cop lives right down the street.
    Right down the street from me. Something tells me there's more to this story, this isn't really a "random home invasion" neighborhood.

    Also, you'd probably be surprised how many law enforcement live in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadanth View Post
    Right down the street from me. Something tells me there's more to this story, this isn't really a "random home invasion" neighborhood.

    Also, you'd probably be surprised how many law enforcement live in the neighborhood.
    I'd like to think so too since I also live here. Definitely glad I have a somewhat secure garage to park in - not that those can't be broken into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadanth View Post
    Right down the street from me. Something tells me there's more to this story, this isn't really a "random home invasion" neighborhood.

    Also, you'd probably be surprised how many law enforcement live in the neighborhood.
    Seeing the news, it looks fairly straightforward. I'll retract my statement.

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    Dead offenders can never be repeat offenders........

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    Shouldn't he have just gone out on the balcony with a 12 gauge shot gun and fired off a couple of blasts? Then whoever is coming in is not going to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjl View Post
    Shouldn't he have just gone out on the balcony with a 12 gauge shot gun and fired off a couple of blasts? Then whoever is coming in is not going to.
    Warning shots are fired in movies and on TV, but not IRW by people who know. You fire at the threat with intent to kill, not to warn, not to wound. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomokc View Post
    Warning shots are fired in movies and on TV, but not IRW by people who know. You fire at the threat with intent to kill, not to warn, not to wound. Period.
    You must have missed Joe Biden's advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjl View Post
    You must have missed Joe Biden's advice.
    Perhaps you missed Post #9? =)
    I'll sure miss Joe Biden when he's gone . . .
    (the DP surely wouldn't consider nominating him for President . . . yet stranger things have happened)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Perhaps you missed Post #9? =)
    I'll sure miss Joe Biden when he's gone . . .
    (the DP surely wouldn't consider nominating him for President . . . yet stranger things have happened)
    No I didn't. Can I not reply to the member that quoted me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjl View Post
    Shouldn't he have just gone out on the balcony with a 12 gauge shot gun and fired off a couple of blasts? Then whoever is coming in is not going to.
    The Biden way.

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    Don't cut on superman's cape
    Don't spit into the wind
    Don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
    And cop's garages ya don't break in

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpate View Post
    Don't cut on superman's cape
    Don't spit into the wind
    Don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
    And cop's garages ya don't break in
    I always thought it was "ya don't tug on superman's cape".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleslastand View Post
    I always thought it was "ya don't tug on superman's cape".
    Poetic License, Amigo. (geezfercryinoutloud . . . =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleslastand View Post
    I always thought it was "ya don't tug on superman's cape".
    Oops. What can I say ... some memories from the 70's are less crystal than others.

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    Did the person gain entry or was he still outside the house attempting to break in? Shot from inside the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkjeeves View Post
    Did the person gain entry or was he still outside the house attempting to break in? Shot from inside the house?
    From what I saw on the news, the altercation started in the officer'a attached garage and the shooting occurred inside the apartment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkjeeves View Post
    Did the person gain entry or was he still outside the house attempting to break in? Shot from inside the house?
    Once he breached the perimeter of the house (could include the garage depending on the way the condo is built) the intruder can be shot. If someone removes your screen off of the window they have breeched the perimeter of your house and are considered a threat.

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    "According to police reports of the incident, the officer fired a warning shot . . . into the center of the burglar's chest. It wasn't a warning shot for the perpetrator of the crime in question but to those who might be considering copycat crimes."

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    I've heard through the grapevine that the suspect in this case may have also been involved in an attempted kidnapping/robbery at Central Avenue Villas earlier yesterday morning. If so, good riddance.

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    Pellets and projectiles shot into the air will not dissolve. They do land somewhere. May not do major harm, but any harm done, you're responsible for it.

    It's really quite simple. If you fire a weapon, hit what you mean to hit. If you only intend to aim at the sky, load only blanks.

    Or better yet, leave real firearms to others and get yourself a somewhat noisy water pistol.

    Warning shots ... maybe for the nerf gun crowd, but they don't belong in real life situations.

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    When I took my cc class the attorney that spoke to the class also included that covered porches counted as part of your home. I had always thought they had to breech the home or garage before shooting....he challenged on it and stood by his statement. I never did check it out to see if that was the case.

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    I was less concerned with letter of the law than if a trained OHP had used deadly force as the first response to what was billed as an attempted breakin. It sounds like he may not have. As far as the law goes and what I remember from cc class, the primary fact has to be if you feared great bodily injury or death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garin View Post
    When I took my cc class the attorney that spoke to the class also included that covered porches counted as part of your home. I had always thought they had to breech the home or garage before shooting....he challenged on it and stood by his statement. I never did check it out to see if that was the case.
    If your life is in danger, you can pull the trigger. Doesn't really matter where you are, as long as its not a place where firearms are prohibited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuplar View Post
    If your life is in danger, you can pull the trigger. Doesn't really matter where you are, as long as its not a place where firearms are prohibited.
    The only condition being, you'd better be able to convey that same fear for your life to a potential prosecutor and possibly a jury.

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