Big 12 Championship Title

[MonkeesFan]

The Sooners will have to win at TCU next week and the Longhorns to defeat Kansas State to win their 8th Big 12 Championship Title, it will be hard to do but anything can happen

[Easy180]

Certainly backed into championships before lol

[SoonerBoy18]

I will root for Texas to win but do you really think they are gonna try to win and let their rival become conference champions? Lol

[MonkeesFan]

I will root for Texas to win but do you really think they are gonna try to win and let their rival become conference champions? Lol

Probably not but Kansas State is their rival too so it is a lose lose situation for the Longhorns

[bluedogok]

I will root for Texas to win but do you really think they are gonna try to win and let their rival become conference champions? Lol

A team worth anything doesn't think that way, they want to win no matter the circumstances. A team that throws a game for any reason is worthless.

[Easy180]

The shorthorns have very little chance up north so hoping for an OU win and a trip to the Sugar Bowl for a rematch with the Gators

[Hawk405359]

The shorthorns have very little chance up north so hoping for an OU win and a trip to the Sugar Bowl for a rematch with the Gators

If OU doesnt' win the conference championship, they may not even get to a BCS bowl, depending on if Kent State can move up 1 spot.

[venture]

If OU doesnt' win the conference championship, they may not even get to a BCS bowl, depending on if Kent State can move up 1 spot.

Indeed. Mixed feelings on this one for me. I grew up in MAC country (even though you could claim it was Big Ten as well, bu I can't stand them LOL) and it would be nice to finally see one of their teams break into the BCS.

However a Texas win over KSU would likely block them from moving up to #16. They also need Stanford to win, which isn't that far fetched at all. Of course it means nothing if they don't beat Northern Illinois in the MAC Championship this week.

[dankrutka]

The Sooners will have to win at TCU next week and the Longhorns to defeat Kansas State to win their 8th Big 12 Championship Title, it will be hard to do but anything can happen

This is inaccurate. Under the old system tiebreakers sent teams to the championship game where the champion was determined. That is not the case anymore. If KSU and OU finish with the same record then they are co-champions. The tiebreaker will only determine who goes to the Fiesta Bowl to represent the Big 12.

If OU beats TCU then they can put Big 12 champs on the stadium. This happened a million times in the old Big 8 when there was no conference championship.

[MonkeesFan]

This is inaccurate. Under the old system tiebreakers sent teams to the championship game where the champion was determined. That is not the case anymore. If KSU and OU finish with the same record then they are co-champions. The tiebreaker will only determine who goes to the Fiesta Bowl to represent the Big 12.

If OU beats TCU then they can put Big 12 champs on the stadium. This happened a million times in the old Big 8 when there was no conference championship.

Thank you for the correction but if OU beats TCU and Kansas State wins, the Sooners are not going to put Big 12 champions on the stadium since Kansas State will have a better record than the Sooners by 1 game

[Just the facts]

Thank you for the correction but if OU beats TCU and Kansas State wins, the Sooners are not going to put Big 12 champions on the stadium since Kansas State will have a better record than the Sooners by 1 game

They play the same number of conference games and both will have lost 1.

[MonkeesFan]

They play the same number of conference games and both will have lost 1.

Sooners are 9-2 Kansas State are 10-1

[kevinpate]

Sooners are 9-2 Kansas State are 10-1

each team has one conference loss. The hurt put on OU by the Irish was a non-conference schoolin'

[venture]

Sooners are 9-2 Kansas State are 10-1

Overall doesn't matter when it comes to conference records. That is the one only that will matter in this case.

[BoulderSooner]

Thank you for the correction but if OU beats TCU and Kansas State wins, the Sooners are not going to put Big 12 champions on the stadium since Kansas State will have a better record than the Sooners by 1 game

your wrong ..

[ljbab728]

I won't expect OU to be putting any Big 12 champs signs on the stadium anytime soon even if they win it this year.

[BoulderSooner]

I won't expect OU to be putting any Big 12 champs signs on the stadium anytime soon even if they win it this year.

you will be disappointed then if OU and kstate win on sat the conf champs number on the stadium will go up one

[MonkeesFan]

I won't expect OU to be putting any Big 12 champs signs on the stadium anytime soon even if they win it this year.

Reminds me of Texas A&M putting conference champions on the wall even they did not even win one which is stupid

[dankrutka]

Reminds me of Texas A&M putting conference champions on the wall even they did not even win one which is stupid

Not the same at all. Texas A&M claimed a conference championship for being a co-division champion. Under that system you had to win the conference championship game to get a conference championship. What A&M did was not only lame, but against the rules that were agreed to prior to the season. I have no problem if they had claimed a co-division championship (even if that is kind of lame). If OU wins this week then they are playing by the rules agreed to by all teams prior to the season. I have no problem with it. Big 8 teams did it for 50 years. Comparing the two situations is silly because they're totally different.

[Martin]

you will be disappointed then if OU and kstate win on sat the conf champs number on the stadium will go up one

i'm not sure i follow... if both teams win this saturday, then they both finish with one conference loss. wouldn't ksu's head-to-head win over ou make them conference champs?

-M

edit: nevermind... looked up the rules on big12sports.com. apparently the tiebreaker is for determining the big 12 bcs representative and not the big 12 champ.

[SoonerDave]

Big 8 teams did it for 50 years.

Exactly. One of the most memorable ties was back in 1978, when a dominant Sooner team went up to Lincoln and basically fumbled away a national title shot at Nebraska, with Heisman winner Billy Sims fumbling at the 3 yard line as he was tightroping the sidelines for what would have been a game-winning score. Nebraska won 17-14, and it looked like they'd win the Big 8.

The next week, Oklahoma played OSU in Norman in what was then a mop-up game, and Nebraska played Missouri in Lincoln. While OU was wiping the floor with the Pokes to the tune of something like 62-7, strange cheers would come up from the crowd at weird times (remember, this is WAAAAY before cell phones and internet) because they were listening to their RADIOS as announcements of the Husker score came in. Finally - the scoreboard and the PA announcer (the late Bill Boren) announced "Final from Lincoln - Missouri 35, Nebraska 31" The crowd went nuts. OU and NU finished the Big 8 at 7-1, as official "co-champs." Out of conference records mattered not one bit, just as they don't matter now in the round-robin Big 12.

The end-game? While Nebraska won the head-to-head match to get the "conference" berth in the Orange Bowl, the Orange Bowl reps decided that the best possible game was to rematch the Huskers against the Sooners, in a game the Sooners won 31-17 in a game that wasn't that close (NU scored a garbage TD literally as time expired).

I'll never forget the film of the phone call to Tom Osborne inviting them to play OU. It was dead silence, like they'd had their Christmas turkey stolen. The Orange Bowl rep heard nothing after the invite, and said "Hello? Hello?" And Osborne finally said "We're here." The expression was priceless.

As is the memory.

[bluedogok]

I'll never forget the film of the phone call to Tom Osborne inviting them to play OU. It was dead silence, like they'd had their Christmas turkey stolen. The Orange Bowl rep heard nothing after the invite, and said "Hello? Hello?" And Osborne finally said "We're here." The expression was priceless.

As is the memory.

You mean this one?

[SoonerDave]

Bingo. Absolute classic.

[ou48A]

IF both OU & KSU win Saturday as said before there will be Co big 12 champions according to the conference rules…. Since OU would be awarded a share of the conference title they would add it to the list giving OU 44 all-time conference titles...That more than any other university in the US.


PS:Many of the old Big 8 conference championships were split

[MonkeesFan]

The Sooners just won their 8th Big 12 title but honestly, I do not think they should be shared