Gunman, six others dead at Wisconsin Sikh temple

[Roadhawg]

Not sure what the motive was, and may never find out, but this is a sad thing to happen.

Oak Creek, Wisconsin (CNN) -- At least seven people, including a gunman shot by a police officer, were killed Sunday in an attack on worshippers at a Sikh temple in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek, police said.

The officer was wounded but "returned fire, and that shooter was put down," said Bradley Wentlandt, the police chief in nearby Greenfield, who briefed reporters. Investigators who picked through the building afterward found four bodies inside the temple and two other victims outside, plus the gunman, Wentlandt said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/05/us/wis...html?hpt=hp_t1

[HewenttoJared]

CNN reported they were treating it as a case of domestic terrorism. Some redneck probably thought it was a mosque...

[Questor]

Some redneck probably thought it was a mosque...

Actually that was my first thought too.

[Swake2]

The killer was a Nazi.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...le-attack?lite

[Roadhawg]

[kevinpate]

former army sergeant.
dishonorably discharge over a decade back, rank reduce to specialist at the time for acts of misconduct (unspecified in the article).


former leader of a neo-Nazi music group called End Apathy.
Police looking into any other supremacy ties.
guy not on anyone's watch list.

firearm, a 9mm, was lawfully acquired.
fired on citizens and officers more than once before taken out by an officer.

So not much known on him thus far, though it seems safe to speculate he probably doesn't have many 'plays well with others' stars at his apartment.

[Roadhawg]

So not much known on him thus far, though it seems safe to speculate he probably doesn't have many 'plays well with others' stars at his apartment.

Might have a few Nazi flags though

[HewenttoJared]

Stories like this are why you should never let hate speech go without saying something. There were probably a thousand chances in this guys life for the right coworker, friend, significant other or family member to say something that could have helped dial back his hate.

[Achilleslastand]

This case has already gotten more publicity then the Ft Hood shooter{Nidal Malik Hasan}.

I wonder why............

[Jersey Boss]

This case has already gotten more publicity then the Ft Hood shooter{Nidal Malik Hasan}.

I wonder why............

What is the basis of this incredulous claim? I wonder where you got this info from?

[WilliamTell]

What is the basis of this incredulous claim? I wonder where you got this info from?

If you follow his post history he has a habit of deflecting/defending acts of terrorism and then turning around and blaming other races. When he's not doing that he's commenting on minorities and various aspects of how he feels they are the problem with society. I'm being dead serious, check his post history.

Its getting to the point where its becoming dangerous.

[Jersey Boss]

If you follow his post history he has a habit of deflecting/defending acts of terrorism and then turning around and blaming other races. When he's not doing that he's commenting on minorities and various aspects of how he feels they are the problem with society. I'm being dead serious, check his post history.

Its getting to the point where its becoming dangerous.

I wonder then why is it always caucasian males between 20 -50 that engage in these slaughters? Maybe "guitar hero" can tell us.

[Achilleslastand]

If you follow his post history he has a habit of deflecting/defending acts of terrorism and then turning around and blaming other races. When he's not doing that he's commenting on minorities and various aspects of how he feels they are the problem with society. I'm being dead serious, check his post history.

Its getting to the point where its becoming dangerous.

Defending/deflecting acts of terrorism then blaming other races? What rubbish.............
Your going to have to swing harder then that to get under my skin.

[Roadhawg]

This case has already gotten more publicity then the Ft Hood shooter{Nidal Malik Hasan}.

I wonder why............

There's something wrong with you

[Achilleslastand]

There's something wrong with you

With me?
Not hardly......
The foot hood shooter killed almost twice the amount as the Sikh temple shooter but the lamestream media did a swell job of sweeping it under the rug.
Not condoning either.
Just saying..........

[Roadhawg]

With me?
Not hardly......
The foot hood shooter killed almost twice the amount as the Sikh temple shooter but the lamestream media did a swell job of sweeping it under the rug.
Not condoning either.
Just saying..........

Swept it under the rug? How do you figure that? It was in the news for weeks... My first assessment was correct, there's something wrong with you.

[Easy180]

This case has already gotten more publicity then the Ft Hood shooter{Nidal Malik Hasan}.

I wonder why............

Getting a lot of play on Fox News...Enjoy living in your bubble

[Lord Helmet]

This case has already gotten more publicity then the Ft Hood shooter{Nidal Malik Hasan}.

I wonder why............

I don't know...enlighten us please.

[Roadhawg]

another sad case of bigotry http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...nth/?hpt=hp_t3

[WilliamTell]

another sad case of bigotry http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...nth/?hpt=hp_t3

wow, that is crazy. after all that town has been through its insane that people would do that to other people in the town. tornado or not, how could that person live with themselves?

[PennyQuilts]

Horrible. Just horrible. I am amazed it hasn't made MORE news.

[Swake2]

Horrible. Just horrible. I am amazed it hasn't made MORE news.

Imagine what he would have done if he had an assault rife like in Colorado. Then imagine Colorado if the 100 round magazine hadn't jammed.

[PennyQuilts]

Imagine what he would have done if he had an assault rife like in Colorado. Then imagine Colorado if the 100 round magazine hadn't jammed.

I honestly don't think it would have made any more news if the magazine hadn't jammed. At a certain point, the mind just explodes at the horror.

I wish someone at either the temple or the theatre had taken the shooters out. You notice we're not seeing a lot of this carnage at grocery stores, public parks or other places where people can carry - Giffords being the exception and that was by a nut who was completely fixated on her.

[Roadhawg]

I honestly don't think it would have made any more news if the magazine hadn't jammed. At a certain point, the mind just explodes at the horror.

I wish someone at either the temple or the theatre had taken the shooters out. You notice we're not seeing a lot of this carnage at grocery stores, public parks or other places where people can carry - Giffords being the exception and that was by a nut who was completely fixated on her.

You really think people at the Sikh temple should have been carrying? This was a hate crime directed at a certain group of people, who's to say if they were having a picnic in a park it wouldn't have happened there too. I would imagine somebody who's deranged enough to do something like this would want a congregated group of people in a place where maximum damage could be done and not one that's scattered out like in a park or grocery store. I haven't seen too many grocery sackers that were packing. Why is it some peoples answer to madmen opening fire on a crowded group of people is more guns?

[PennyQuilts]

You really think people at the Sikh temple should have been carrying? This was a hate crime directed at a certain group of people, who's to say if they were having a picnic in a park it wouldn't have happened there too. I would imagine somebody who's deranged enough to do something like this would want a congregated group of people in a place where maximum damage could be done and not one that's scattered out like in a park or grocery store. I haven't seen too many grocery sackers that were packing. Why is it some peoples answer to madmen opening fire on a crowded group of people is more guns?

I don't think someone should carry where it is illegal. But I can't imagine why carrying a gun in a mosque or a church or the like would be a problem, short of them being a nut who is just as likely to "go off" anywhere. Guns are all over the place. I don't think walking into a church is going to make someone suddenly turn violent (unless they think they could get away with it or were nuts). You can bet your bottom dollar that if someone walked into a place of worship and began harming others, the ones that could would use violence to stop him, if they could - doesn't matter if it was a church. If that means banging them atop the head with a candlestick or one of those smoking teaballs, I'm betting they'd do it.