RUMOR: I-240 Like Loop Through Moore/Norman Area?!?

[kawititnow]

I heard a rumor from a friend a while back saying that there is talk about putting another I-240 like loop further south somewhere between Moore/Norman, or even south of Norman. Anyone know anything about this?

[jmarkross]

I heard a rumor from a friend a while back saying that there is talk about putting another I-240 like loop further south somewhere between Moore/Norman, or even south of Norman. Anyone know anything about this?

Heard once about some plan that was an east-west thing roughly around where Indian Hills Road/I-35...from a friend of mine who has a place out there...

[flintysooner]

http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=14978&page=1

http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=23077&page=1

there are more but I didn't search for them

[Jesseda]

I believe the plan is now dead, where it was suppose to go new nieghborhoods and business are along the path of it, unless they changed the panning of where this road was suppose to go then this plan has died.. to bad becasue we really need a actual loop around the city to releive traffice coming from norman area..

[BoulderSooner]

the long range planning of odot and has always been very poor .. south west okc would explode with growth if we had a southwest loop ... and NW okc would benifit from a north west loop ..

[earlywinegareth]

The idea was proposed 10-15 years ago...connecting the Kilpatrick south to Highway 9 then moving north in the Lake Thunderbird area and reconnecting with I-240 I think. Anyway, Normanites revolted and the HE Bailey "spur" was all that came of it.

[Spartan]

That is the long-range goal, but it is certainly dead for now. A lot of the tracts where the freeway is proposed to go around Moore and SW OKC have been developed in already.

And BoulderSooner, NW OKC has a loop.

[BoulderSooner]

That is the long-range goal, but it is certainly dead for now. A lot of the tracts where the freeway is proposed to go around Moore and SW OKC have been developed in already.

And BoulderSooner, NW OKC has a loop.

you right .. my bad i meant north east ..

I remember as a kid back in The early 90's living in Choctaw and my parents and neighbors were talking about a loop from I-44(Turner) down thru Eastern OK county connecting to I-40/240!Does anyone else remember hearing this?

yep that was the plan but local residents killed it in the public comments process ..

very sad as it would have meant great growth for that area

[mburlison]

My ex-father-in-law has a place at 149th/May; I remember years ago he said they were talking about that SW Loop going along roughly at 149th --- never heard anymore about it, though, for many years.

[flintysooner]

http://www.oklongrangeplan.com/faqs/

9. What is the status of the proposed Southwest Outer Loop around Oklahoma City?

An Outer Loop Corridor Study was conducted by ODOT, the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority, and the Association of Central Oklahoma Governments between 1998 and 2002.

This study identified a Southwest Outer Loop conceptual alignment that would connect the current endpoint of the Kilpatrick Turnpike (near SW 15th and Sara Road in Canadian County) and I-35 (near Indian Hills Road in Cleveland County).

A number of preliminary steps remain before this project could proceed. These steps include updating current development and land use information and conducting an environmental assessment. Additional communication and cooperation between affected local governments, ACOG, and ODOT will need to occur.

In addition, sufficient funding sources for preliminary engineering, right of way acquisition, utility relocation, design, and construction have not been identified. As a result, these projects are not currently included in the Department’s 8-Year Construction Work Program.

[MustangGT]

To avoid development that has occurred they would have to connect much further west and south then is really feasible for a SW loop. ODOT really missed the boat.

[ljbab728]

To avoid development that has occurred they would have to connect much further west and south then is really feasible for a SW loop. ODOT really missed the boat.

The road is basically there with the HE Bailey Spur which loops around going to Mustang, It's not really developed at all and could easily be improved to limited access. It the area north of the South Canadian River in Canadian County where the problems would begin.

[venture]

It would be nice if we could get another Northbound option from Norman. About the only area that it could would though is going up 48th on the East side and on the west side of Draper Lake. That area is starting to fill in, at least around Highway 9 in Norman, but there is still room to do it. It would also get most of the traffic off of Sooner Road/12th.

[kawititnow]

It would be nice if we could get another Northbound option from Norman. About the only area that it could would though is going up 48th on the East side and on the west side of Draper Lake. That area is starting to fill in, at least around Highway 9 in Norman, but there is still room to do it. It would also get most of the traffic off of Sooner Road/12th.

It's been rumored forever that Western/60th St is supposed to be 4 lanes all the way from 134th in OKC to Robinson in Norman. I'd like to see it happen, but we'll see...

[kevinpate]

It's been rumored forever that Western/60th St is supposed to be 4 lanes all the way from 134th in OKC to Robinson in Norman. I'd like to see it happen, but we'll see...

I could be just as happy if it reached Tecumseh, now that it's been widened to the east.

[Dar405301]

aren't they already in the process of widening western to 4 lanes all the way down to norman?

[dmoor82]

I remember as a kid back in The early 90's living in Choctaw and my parents and neighbors were talking about a loop from I-44(Turner) down thru Eastern OK county connecting to I-40/240!Does anyone else remember hearing this?

[KTB]

I grew up and lived in SW okc and there was always talk about it. The path I heard last was crossing I-44 near SW 149th and then cutting through south Moore/north Norman ending at I-35. I actually saw a sign a few wears ago at 149th and May that said "No to Z route" or something similar. I remember an article that said the proposed path took it right through Moore's nicest neighborhood. If they would have put this in 15 years ago it would have been great but I think it's essentially dead now.

[QUAPAW5]

A Plan at one time (dot is buying right of way ... have a relative that lives on 102S ) Starting at Hwy 102 S (Grand Casino Exit) Going S to Hwy #9 Then West to Norman and I-35. This Would be a Loop, 4 lane hwy all the way.
Then there was a Plan to 4 lane all the way From Norman into Tecumseh up to Hwy 177 on hwy 9 , Hwy 177 4 lanes ends at Hwy 9 east of Tecumseh. Then use the existing 4 lane (Hwy 177) to link into I-40 going North.
Yes i remenber that east of Choctaw going s to hook up at I-40 and I believe it was Choctaw rd as the loop rd. This weeks Choctaw news is has a piece of news about 6 lanes for I-40 from I-240 east to county line.

[Plutonic Panda]

Do you have a link to that news article?

Something like this would be pretty neat to see someday.

[bchris02]

Do you have a link to that news article?

Something like this would be pretty neat to see someday.

I think the western extension of the Kilpatrick you show from Yukon down to north Norman could be doable and successful even today. I am not sure there is currently the demand for the eastern loop though. I do like the spur from the 44/35 junction down to Tinker AFB. I think a better way is needed to get from Edmond to the east metro area. However, there is so much development along that path through Midwest City I don't see a freeway ever being possible there.

[LakeEffect]

I think the western extension of the Kilpatrick you show from Yukon down to north Norman could be doable and successful even today. I am not sure there is currently the demand for the eastern loop though. I do like the spur from the 44/35 junction down to Tinker AFB. I think a better way is needed to get from Edmond to the east metro area. However, there is so much development along that path through Midwest City I don't see a freeway ever being possible there.

The routing of the SW loop from Yukon to Norman has been elimated due to construction of neighborhoods across the alignment... Any loop would have to go far SW, taking it too far out to make any sort of sense.

Rep. Joyner has filed a bill to require ODOT to complete a study for a 4-lane highway/expressway in eastern Oklahoma County this session, FYI. HB2494 Bill Information I, for one, would be opposed to any new highway construction in Oklahoma County or the surrounding counties.

"The Department of Transportation shall conduct a comprehensive
engineering study concerning the construction of a high-speed
limited-access four-lane highway solution in Oklahoma County, east
of Tinker Air Force Base. The results of the study shall be
submitted to the Governor, the Speaker of the House of
Representatives and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate no later
than December 31, 2015."

[Just the facts]

The routing of the SW loop from Yukon to Norman has been elimated due to construction of neighborhoods across the alignment... "

I don't get it. Why would ODOT care about cutting a neighborhood in half? They never cared before because every freeway they ever built did exactly that.

[Plutonic Panda]

The routing of the SW loop from Yukon to Norman has been elimated due to construction of neighborhoods across the alignment... Any loop would have to go far SW, taking it too far out to make any sort of sense.

Rep. Joyner has filed a bill to require ODOT to complete a study for a 4-lane highway/expressway in eastern Oklahoma County this session, FYI. HB2494 Bill Information I, for one, would be opposed to any new highway construction in Oklahoma County or the surrounding counties.

"The Department of Transportation shall conduct a comprehensive
engineering study concerning the construction of a high-speed
limited-access four-lane highway solution in Oklahoma County, east
of Tinker Air Force Base. The results of the study shall be
submitted to the Governor, the Speaker of the House of
Representatives and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate no later
than December 31, 2015."

I would support it. I know, I know, big surprise, but I think it could some good out there.

[Plutonic Panda]

I do have a question though and this is not related to this, but I found this link through trying to find the news article.

ODOTS long range plan has this in it

► I-35 Corridor The I-35 Trade Corridor Study completed in 1999 made the following recommendations for I-35 in Oklahoma:
 From the Kansas/Oklahoma Border to
northern transition of Oklahoma City:
six lanes
 From the northern transition of
Oklahoma City to the Oklahoma City
core: eight lanes
 For the Oklahoma City Core: eight lanes
with additional construction of a relief
route
 From the Oklahoma City Core to
southern transition of Oklahoma City: six lanes with additional construction of a relief route
 From the southern transition of Oklahoma City to the Oklahoma/Texas border: eight lanes
 Construction costs were estimated at $880 million for Oklahoma

Are they suggesting widening I-35 to six lanes all the way through Oklahoma? I didn't really get that. That is some serious road work if they want to do that. Couldn't imagine what it'd cost.

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/p-r-d..._with-maps.pdf