Big 12 conference talks this week

[metro]

I thought we could start a seperate discussion solely on this weeks negotiations about the state of the Big 12 and the upcoming season. I believe they started meeting yesterday.

[Kerry]

Looks like this is the end of the line for the Big XII. The only thing I don't like about the PAC-10 plan is UCLA should go to the PAC-10 South and Colorado to the PAC-10 North. This would divide up the LA market for both divisions.

Report: Pac-10 to invite six Big 12 schools including OU, OSU | NewsOK.com

The move would leave out Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska and Missouri — of which several schools have been reported as being interested in moving to the Big Ten.

According to the report, the six teams from the Big 12 would be in an eight-team division with Arizona and Arizona State. The other eight-team division would consist of USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.

Combining the Big 12 South division powers with the Pac-10 would likely make the new league able to develop its own television network that would rival the current Big Ten Network. It would also be able to deliver seven of the country's top 20 TV markets (Los Angeles, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston, Phoenix, Seattle and Sacramento).



Read more: Report: Pac-10 to invite six Big 12 schools including OU, OSU | NewsOK.com

[lasomeday]

I hate to see the Big 12 die, but if we could be with the PAC 10, that would be awesome!

[mugofbeer]

I hate to see the Big 12 die, but if we could be with the PAC 10, that would be awesome!

I'd rather see an alliance with the SEC. What fantastic games!

[possumfritter]

I'd rather see an alliance with the SEC. What fantastic games!

I'm with you on this one mugofbeer!

[Caboose]

I really dont get the point of the super-conferences (outside of the money).

Let's say OU, OSU, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech all follow Colorado to the Pac-10.

The new Pac 10 would have two 8 team divisions like so:

--West--
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon State
USC
UCLA
Washington
Washington State

--East--
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
OU
OSU
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech


Each team would play their 7 division mates each season, then either 1 or 2 of the teams in the other division, leaving 4 or 3 non conference games.

So my question is, what is the point? What is the point in OU being in the same conference as Cal if they only play them once every 8 years?

[mugofbeer]

I hate to see the Big 12 die, but if we could be with the PAC 10, that would be awesome!

I'd rather see an alliance with the SEC. What fantastic games!

I'm sorry, disasterous games with USC and the officiating debacle at Oregon State left a very bad taste in my mouth for the PAC 10.

[jbrown84]

Bye bye to conference tournaments in OKC...

[LIL_WAYNE_2012_PREZIDENT]

Bye bye to conference tournaments in OKC...

this really isnt funny but LOL

[ultimatesooner]

a combination of big 12 and pac 10 officials would be a disaster

[SoonerBent]

a combination of big 12 and pac 10 officials would be a disaster

The current problem is that they are PAC 10 officials. Of course the OU-Oregon game comes to mind. But after this we'll all be one big happy family. We won't be a competing conference any longer.

[earlywinegareth]

I like it a lot. oSu & Tx Tech should send flowers and thank-you notes to OU & Texas.

[Bunty]

I like it a lot. oSu & Tx Tech should send flowers and thank-you notes to OU & Texas.

Yes, ain't it amazing that thd Pac 10 would want oSu and Stillwater.

[SoonerBent]

Yes, ain't it amazing that thd Pac 10 would want oSu and Stillwater.

Some media sources (for what they're worth) are saying that this has a lot to do with a certain, very wealthy Texas resident/OSU backer. You can guess who.

[Thunder]

I don't like this at all. Schools broken up everywhere is just way too weird. I like the way things are right now. To me, the conference names represent the location of schools within a region.

[kevinpate]

... I like the way things are right now. To me, the conference names represent the location of schools within a region.

Yeah, nothing screams Plains State or Heartland quite like shouting out Big 12!

Sorry Thunder. Some conference names are regional based, but nah, ours ain't one of those.

[metro]

Yeah, nothing screams Plains State or Heartland quite like shouting out Big 12!

Sorry Thunder. Some conference names are regional based, but nah, ours ain't one of those.

In fairness to Thunder, he didn't state ours was a regional name, just made a general comment. i.e. Pac 10, Southeastern, Mountain West etc.

[OKCisOK4me]

I don't like this at all. Schools broken up everywhere is just way too weird. I like the way things are right now. To me, the conference names represent the location of schools within a region.

And I think Pluto is still a planet. I read the pros and cons for both ou and osu in the paper yesterday. Overall, it would do more for both teams I think... We'll see what happens...

[Bunty]

And I think Pluto is still a planet. I read the pros and cons for both ou and osu in the paper yesterday. Overall, it would do more for both teams I think... We'll see what happens...

It all depends what Texas decides to do.

[bombermwc]

Well one nice thing about the Big XII was that you could drive from OKC to pretty much every school for an event, without it taking forever. If we joing the PAC 10, you'll see coastal games, so we go from the middle to the edge of the conference. It's true that we won't get conference championships anymore too....if we're competing with Portland, LA, etc...why would they go to the smaller OKC market? It's unfortunate that it's going to end like this.....but this could all be a big stink just to get better contracts out of the deal too you know. We could come back in a month and everything could be back to business as usual....who knows.

[Spartan]

We have to be able to compete with the west coast now. Perhaps this new paradigm will encourage us to think about sustainability a lot more.

[okclee]

We have to be able to compete with the west coast now. Perhaps this new paradigm will encourage us to think about sustainability a lot more.

This is a good point. I have thought about this as another positive too. Sports are huge in Oklahoma and if being part of the Pac 10 exposes OU and OSU sports fans to other regions besides Texas and Kansas, it could be good.

[blangtang]

anyone speculated when we'd actually start playing these games, would it be a few years out or possibly this season? i know OU has a bunch of non-conference games scheduled many years out with the likes of tennesse, tulsa, notre dame, etc. or would it be based on the tv contracts and when they expire. i havent heard ...

oh here's a link that shows games scheduled out to 2019, but those are non-conference.

OUInsider.com - 2010 Oklahoma Football Schedule

[Spartan]

OMG! Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU! (Faint)

Boomer!

[redrunner]

According to various media outlets Nebraska will be announcing they are leaving the Big 12 any day now. I really don't have a problem with the Big 12 South joining the Pac-10 but I would rather see Colorado get an invite instead of Baylor. The Big 12 North is not as strong as the South and playing a competitive west division in the possible Pac 16 superconference will be more exciting. Plus it means you can travel to CA for games.