Shannon threatens arson and murder again.

[OkcMetal]

I know some of you will be sick of this, BUT...Markkk Shannon again is on air threatening politicians with Gun violence. Again, how is it possible for someone to threaten another person with murder?? What if someone called in to his show, and told Shannon We need to come down there and burn your building!?? Would not that be an arson threat?? Markkk Shannon also stated WE NEED TO burn Nebraska corn fields!! ARSON THREAT!!! What if someone from Nebraska spewed.."We need to go down and burn the oilfields!! ARSON!!! and all this after threatening our Mayor with arson during the maps3 vote. I again am contacting our DA, Nebraska DA, the Secret Service, the media, and an attorney. Some one has to stop this mad man, before he kills. and ktok radio will be held responsible. Please contact officials and maybe we can have a class action lawsuit against Mark Shannon, and ktok radio.

[SkyWestOKC]

You guys take him way too seriously.

[grantgeneral78]

You guys take him way too seriously.

I agree, he is just trying to razz up some ratings.....boy it seems to be working!!

[OkcMetal]

Murder and arson should be taken seriously!!!

[mugofbeer]

Murder and arson should be taken seriously!!!

The kind of talk he is spouting is no different than radical Islamic Imams preaching death and destruction in the mosque or over the internet. As the 5 kids recently arrested in Pakistan seems to prove out, as the kook in Texas that mowed down his fellow army servicemen, as all the people who gather in Iraq and Afghanistan and Packistan to fight the "American Devils," a lot of things can happen just by someone saying something on the radio. He really should be stopped and pulled way back by the station.

[mugofbeer]

Thats really not the point. He's not going to be the one to do it, unless his illness truly has gone to his head. Its the radical kooks who would be the ones to do it at the urging of people like him.

[OkcMetal]

A caller just stated 'WE need to do something to those Democrats so they cannot physically vote'!!!!

[SkyWestOKC]

There's violence on both sides. What about those SEIU workers who beat the sh*t out of a conservative at a Tea Party?

[soonerguru]

There's violence on both sides. What about those SEIU workers who beat the sh*t out of a conservative at a Tea Party?

This is urban legend, promoted by right wingers, just like the two undercover conservatives who dressed up like pimps and hos to implicate ACORN.

Conservatives used to be led by thinkers, like William F. Buckley. Now they they are led by ranting morons.

MarKKK Shannon is just the latest.

I may be liberal, but I think to run a country we need people of all perspectives. Right now, we have no rational conservative voice. The ones we hear are just snide or psychotic "entertainers" like Rush, Beck, and Shannon, or we have out and out bigots and freaks.

We have people like Rick Perry advocating secession from the Union. Nobody even believes the sincerity of this blowdried moron -- including his conservative base.

We need to have rational, thoughtful conservatives contributing to the public discourse. We do not have this right now.

[SkyWestOKC]

This is urban legend, promoted by right wingers, just like the two undercover conservatives who dressed up like pimps and hos to implicate ACORN.

YouTube - Obama Thugs Punch Twice As Hard

Looks like an urban legend to me.

You are taking your eye off of the ball. It doesn't matter how the videos were shot, they still exposed the corruption and illegal activities of ACORN. Underage prostitution and trafficking aren't funny.

[soonerguru]

YouTube - Obama Thugs Punch Twice As Hard

Looks like an urban legend to me.

You are taking your eye off of the ball. It doesn't matter how the videos were shot, they still exposed the corruption and illegal activities of ACORN. Underage prostitution and trafficking aren't funny.

No, they're not. But the ACORN thing has been completely blown out of proportion. There are a lot of people in this country who actually believe that ACORN stole the election for Obama.

Yes, there are union thugs, just like there are thugs that represent all variety of political positions. But union thugs aren't on the radio night after night recommending things like burning the mayor's house down, killing liberals etc.

How old are you? Have you read any history? Do you actually think it's OK to make light of things like assassination and violence?

I don't want to malign you for no reason, but why do you care so much about defending Shannon? Does he hold a special place in your heart or something? You really seem to "admire" him a great deal, especially now that you're his number one public defender.

[OUGrad05]

This is urban legend, promoted by right wingers, just like the two undercover conservatives who dressed up like pimps and hos to implicate ACORN.

Conservatives used to be led by thinkers, like William F. Buckley. Now they they are led by ranting morons.

MarKKK Shannon is just the latest.

I may be liberal, but I think to run a country we need people of all perspectives. Right now, we have no rational conservative voice. The ones we hear are just snide or psychotic "entertainers" like Rush, Beck, and Shannon, or we have out and out bigots and freaks.

We have people like Rick Perry advocating secession from the Union. Nobody even believes the sincerity of this blowdried moron -- including his conservative base.

We need to have rational, thoughtful conservatives contributing to the public discourse. We do not have this right now.

Boortz is pretty good for a talking head, he has a lot of serious and more rational discussion unlike the other talking heads...though he definately gets his entertainment squeezed in

[OUGrad05]

This is urban legend, promoted by right wingers, just like the two undercover conservatives who dressed up like pimps and hos to implicate ACORN.

That is not urban legend, the whole incident is on video...and I'm not sure how anyone can defend the actions of acorn, trapped or not they were engaging in illegal activity.

[soonerguru]

That is not urban legend, the whole incident is on video...and I'm not sure how anyone can defend the actions of acorn, trapped or not they were engaging in illegal activity.

For the record, I'm not a fan of ACORN, at all. I'm only commenting on how this incident is being used to exaggerate the activities of ACORN.

There will be nothing substantial to come out of this investigation, at least to implicate the organization. That is all I'm talking about.

Personally, I'm not a fan of paying people to register voters. And I say this because I think it should be a voluntary activity.

[OUGrad05]

Personally, I'm not a fan of paying people to register voters. And I say this because I think it should be a voluntary activity.

It should be voluntary and paying for registration creates a massive conflict of interest as demonstrated by the dozen plus ongoing investigations into voter fraud and registration fraud.

[hipsterdoofus]

For the record, I'm not a fan of ACORN, at all. I'm only commenting on how this incident is being used to exaggerate the activities of ACORN.

There will be nothing substantial to come out of this investigation, at least to implicate the organization. That is all I'm talking about.

Personally, I'm not a fan of paying people to register voters. And I say this because I think it should be a voluntary activity.

I'm not sure how it is an exaggeration when it happened at multiple cities. And no, there won't be anything that will come of it - due to their buddy in the white house. I don't know why it is so hard to believe that there is corruption there - not everything is a "right wing conspiracy", Hillary.

[Midtowner]

Conservatives used to be led by thinkers, like William F. Buckley. Now they they are led by ranting morons.

Trouble is, the movement has become so damn anti-intellectual it's not even funny. To be educated and intelligent are things most in this party look at with distrust. The leadership is fine with that situation because it allows them to take up positions which cause thinking people to exclaim "WTF," while having the rank and file unthinkingly jump on the bandwagon.

The Dems aren't any better though. At the national level, they *claim* to be thoughtful, intelligent, etc., aren't so outwardly hostile to smart folks [so long as those people agree with the Dems]. On the other hand, the Dems do talk a good game, but they're just as much in the pockets of K Street types as the Republicans. I say this about Dems at the national level because the Dems at the state level do pretty much nothing. Despite losing power, they still seem to think that being in power in this state is some sort of birthright. They do nothing to craft a unified message or theme or really do any sort of marketing. In short, the Oklahoma Democratic Party is a failed party. But that's neither here nor there.

The terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' have really been stripped of all inherent meaning just as the parties have. We're arguing over name brands. Might as well be Pepsi vs. Coke.

Ultimately, we the people do have all the power. We're just too dumb to exercise it. We latch onto these useless name brands because change is scary.

The anti-intellectual crap is just bad. When I discuss things like tort reform (which is probably more properly referred to as 'well-connected-special-interest-lawsuit-immunity), they talk about 'trial lawyers' as if being a 'trial lawyer' is something which is inherently evil. They don't grasp the depth and breadth of the subject, don't know that these protected special interests want to be protected from swindling royalty owners or being able to get off scott free (or at least be subsidized) when they kill or maim people through their reckless or willful acts. The anti-intellectual argument has become this:

premise #1 = lawyers are bad
premise #2 = lawyers file lawsuits
conclusion = lawsuits are always bad and must be prevented at all costs.

[Good syllogisms there, but the underlying premises are flawed as all get out.]

I shouldn't be surprised. Thinking is not something which is really valued in society unless it's going to sell something or accomplish some sort of objective for a client. Thinking abstractly about things which we aren't directly involved with isn't really something most people are very interested in. Especially when the name-brand you associate with, your team, is telling you that 'x is good, therefore we must support x, go team.'

Mark Shannon and his ilk tend to think about things on the most simplistic level. It's all his audience is really capable of. They distrust the word of experts and educated people who actually believe things are complicated and should be subjected to careful reasoning.

This may be a reflection on society. Why should society trust the smart/elite to run the show when the smart/elite time and time again have simply used their status to line their own pockets? I'm not sure. One thing I'm sure of though -- government composed of and for the lowest common denominator in at least 50.1% of a given electorate is probably not the way to go.


/rant

[soonerguru]

Trouble is, the movement has become so damn anti-intellectual it's not even funny. To be educated and intelligent are things most in this party look at with distrust. The leadership is fine with that situation because it allows them to take up positions which cause thinking people to exclaim "WTF," while having the rank and file unthinkingly jump on the bandwagon.

The Dems aren't any better though. At the national level, they *claim* to be thoughtful, intelligent, etc., aren't so outwardly hostile to smart folks [so long as those people agree with the Dems]. On the other hand, the Dems do talk a good game, but they're just as much in the pockets of K Street types as the Republicans. I say this about Dems at the national level because the Dems at the state level do pretty much nothing. Despite losing power, they still seem to think that being in power in this state is some sort of birthright. They do nothing to craft a unified message or theme or really do any sort of marketing. In short, the Oklahoma Democratic Party is a failed party. But that's neither here nor there.

The terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' have really been stripped of all inherent meaning just as the parties have. We're arguing over name brands. Might as well be Pepsi vs. Coke.

Ultimately, we the people do have all the power. We're just too dumb to exercise it. We latch onto these useless name brands because change is scary.

The anti-intellectual crap is just bad. When I discuss things like tort reform (which is probably more properly referred to as 'well-connected-special-interest-lawsuit-immunity), they talk about 'trial lawyers' as if being a 'trial lawyer' is something which is inherently evil. They don't grasp the depth and breadth of the subject, don't know that these protected special interests want to be protected from swindling royalty owners or being able to get off scott free (or at least be subsidized) when they kill or maim people through their reckless or willful acts. The anti-intellectual argument has become this:

premise #1 = lawyers are bad
premise #2 = lawyers file lawsuits
conclusion = lawsuits are always bad and must be prevented at all costs.

[Good syllogisms there, but the underlying premises are flawed as all get out.]

I shouldn't be surprised. Thinking is not something which is really valued in society unless it's going to sell something or accomplish some sort of objective for a client. Thinking abstractly about things which we aren't directly involved with isn't really something most people are very interested in. Especially when the name-brand you associate with, your team, is telling you that 'x is good, therefore we must support x, go team.'

Mark Shannon and his ilk tend to think about things on the most simplistic level. It's all his audience is really capable of. They distrust the word of experts and educated people who actually believe things are complicated and should be subjected to careful reasoning.

This may be a reflection on society. Why should society trust the smart/elite to run the show when the smart/elite time and time again have simply used their status to line their own pockets? I'm not sure. One thing I'm sure of though -- government composed of and for the lowest common denominator in at least 50.1% of a given electorate is probably not the way to go.


/rant

Great post. I agree that the Democrats have aligned themselves with some anti-intellectualists in the name of populism. Certainly, brutish union organizers have some anti-intellectuals in their midst, and they tend to be a Democratic constituency.

That said, it's not exactly a scarlet letter in the Dem Party today to be known as a thinker.

[OkcMetal]

seiu did not go on air, calling for widespread death!!

[Kerry]

seiu did not go on air, calling for widespread death!!

Then you don't listen to left-wing talk radio. Listen to Randy Rhodes and some of her callers for a while. I also recall a movie about killing President Bush. I think it won some awards.

In fact: Here it is.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

It won six awards.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/awards

The real President is probably off somewhere doing what he does best, which is vacationing, but the fictional assasination of President George W Bush did make it to the screen at the Toronto Film Festival and with great reviews. "Death Of A President", the controversial British drama, which shows Bush shot dead in Chicago, Illinois in 2007, was recently slammed as "irresponsible" and "horrible" by U.S. politicians.

However, director Gabriel Range claims critics are judging the film unfairly as they have yet to see it. He says, "I think the film makes it clear it would really be a horrific event. I really don't think that anyone would get the idea of assassinating Bush from this film." He adds, "It is using the lens of the future to look at the present. It is about issues that have affected us all in the last five years. It is a film about America today. "The central conceit of the film was that it is a drama, but told in the style of what we hope is a fairly authentic, classic, retrospective documentary. Clearly, if we had told a retrospective documentary with a fictional president, it would have undermined and undercut that central idea."

I am sure many of you Shannon haters will defend this directors comments. I wonder if he will do "Death of President II" starring Obama? I think not.

[Spartan]

Why is anyone listening to him? It seems like he's one of the most successful shock jocks I've seen in a while..

[SkyWestOKC]

He's not calling for widespread death.

[OkcMetal]

If success means your on a bobsled to hell, well, than yes

[Stan Silliman]

If success means your on a bobsled to hell, well, than yes

I really thought it was hand baskets. Now they're taking bobsleds?....

[OkcMetal]

What if he did talk his listeners to actually doing something?? Guns would have to be pointed at our own national guard. That never turns out good