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  1. Default Severe Weather Risk - May 7 Thurs

    Instability will be increase across the area tomorrow, though storm coverage is not expected to be widespread in our area. Here is the current outlook...







    DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    0106 AM CDT WED MAY 06 2009

    VALID 071200Z - 081200Z

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM ERN PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL/SRN PLAINS THROUGH THE OH/TN VALLEYS...AND CENTRAL GULF
    COAST STATES TO CAROLINAS/SERN VA...

    ...SYNOPSIS...
    MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH THE EVOLUTION OF THE MID/UPPER
    LEVEL FLOW REGIME ACROSS THE CONUS ON DAY 2 /THU/. ONE SHORTWAVE
    TROUGH...CURRENTLY LOCATED ACROSS SRN SASKATCHEWAN PER WATER VAPOR
    IMAGERY...WILL PROGRESS EWD THURSDAY INTO NRN ONTARIO WITH SOME
    AMPLIFICATION/HEIGHT FALLS ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION.
    MEANWHILE...THE NERN PACIFIC CLOSED LOW SHOULD BE MOVING INLAND OVER
    SRN BC/WA AS AN OPEN WAVE WITH THIS SYSTEM AMPLIFYING SEWD ACROSS
    THE NRN ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS ON DAY 2. SEVERAL WEAKER MID LEVEL
    IMPULSES ARE EXPECTED TO TRAVERSE THE FAST WNWLY FLOW ALOFT THROUGH
    THIS FORECAST PERIOD AND WILL BE THE IMPETUS FOR TSTM DEVELOPMENT.
    WNWLY MID/UPPER LEVEL WINDS ARE FORECAST TO BECOME MORE ZONAL BY 12Z
    FRIDAY FROM THE NRN GREAT BASIN/CENTRAL ROCKIES TO THE OH VALLEY AS
    HEIGHTS FALL ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST.

    ...CENTRAL OK/ERN KS TO LOWER OH/TN VALLEYS THU AFTERNOON/NIGHT...
    MID LEVEL IMPULSE LOCATED AT 39N 139W...AND NOW APPROACHING NRN
    CA/ORE...WILL MOVE INLAND THROUGH THE NRN INTERMOUNTAIN WEST
    TODAY...AND SHOULD REACH NEB BY START OF DAY 2 AS IT TRANSLATES
    ESEWD WITHIN FAST WNWLY MID LEVEL FLOW. THIS MID LEVEL FEATURE AND
    ANOTHER POSSIBLY OVER CO AT 12Z THURSDAY WILL PROGRESS ESEWD ACROSS
    THE ERN PLAINS TO MO/OZARKS REGION AND WILL BE THE IMPETUS FOR TSTM
    DEVELOPMENT THURSDAY AFTERNOON. AT THE SURFACE...A BOUNDARY IS
    EXPECTED TO EXTEND ESEWD FROM NRN KS THROUGH NRN MO TO SRN IL...WITH
    A SURFACE LOW TRACKING ALONG THIS FRONT INTO NERN KS/NWRN MO BY
    08/00Z. A FRONT TRAILING SWD FROM THE LOW SHOULD EXTEND THROUGH
    CENTRAL KS TO WRN/CENTRAL OK BY LATE AFTERNOON. MOISTURE RETURN
    ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR /SURFACE DEWPOINTS IN THE 60S ACROSS KS/MO
    AND LOWER 70S INTO OK COMBINED WITH SURFACE HEATING AND STEEP MID
    LEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL RESULT IN MODERATE INSTABILITY ACROSS ERN
    KS/MO AND VERY STRONG INSTABILITY OVER OK/NRN TX.

    THE FAVORABLE THERMODYNAMICS COMBINED WITH INCREASING ASCENT AHEAD
    OF THE MID LEVEL IMPULSE AND INCREASING EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR /IN
    EXCESS OF 50 KT/ WILL PROMOTE THE LIKELIHOOD FOR SUPERCELLS
    PRODUCING TORNADOES AND VERY LARGE HAIL. MODELS SUGGEST THE
    POTENTIAL FOR THIS ACTIVITY TO GROW UPSCALE INTO A FORWARD
    PROPAGATING MCS ACROSS MO/NRN AR INTO THE LOWER OH VALLEY AS THE SLY
    LLJ VEERS TO WLY AND STRENGTHENS TO 40-50 KT. DAMAGING WINDS WOULD
    BE THE PRIMARY THREAT WITH THIS ACTIVITY OVERNIGHT.

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    Finally back to spring. Tomorrow could be intersting. I'll really have to wait to see if the sun comes out before I get to specific with my foreecast/guess but if its sunny in the morning and theres no MCS messing things up we may have our first really good visual chase day. Do you think the cap will hinder things Venture?

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    Cap? Don't jinx it, WSS!

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    Tomorrow looks like it possibly has potential but I am looking at Friday more than tomorrow.

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    Sorry T-man I don't want to jinx it. And Charlie, Friday appears to be the more promising day. Agreed!!! The SPC already noted on their day 3 page that parts of Oklahoma may need to be upgraded to moderate for Friday. But sometimes the best day is the day before the big show. I'm concerned that a MCS may scour the atmosphere, or worse yet the front and/or dryline may progress faster than expected. I hope not. I haven't seen a good tower go up all spring yet. My camera is getting dusty. Too bad Vortex2 doesnt get rolling til next week.

    SPC Day3 Quote


    FARTHER SW...STRONG SURFACE HEATING ACROSS CENTRAL OK ALONG A DRY
    LINE/SURFACE FRONT AND IN THE WAKE OF EARLY FRIDAY MORNING MCS WILL
    SUPPORT A VERY UNSTABLE AIR MASS BY AFTERNOON...GIVEN HIGH MOISTURE
    VALUES /SURFACE DEWPOINTS IN LOWER 70S/ AND STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE
    RATES. THE STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL CAP THE OK AIR MASS
    THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON. STRONG SURFACE HEATING /INTO THE
    MID-UPPER 80S/ COMBINED WITH ASCENT WITHIN ENTRANCE REGION OF
    POTENTIAL MID LEVEL JETLET TRAVERSING OK/AR FRIDAY AFTERNOON MAY
    PROVE SUFFICIENT FOR TSTM DEVELOPMENT WWD INTO CENTRAL OK AND
    POSSIBLY FAR N TX. GIVEN THAT MODELS AGREE THAT STORMS WILL DEVELOP
    INTO CENTRAL OK...WITH ECMWF/NAMKF INDICATING STORMS BY LATE
    AFTERNOON...CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO INCREASE WITH THE LIKELIHOOD FOR
    SEVERE STORMS ACROSS MUCH OF CENTRAL AND ERN OK ON DAY 3. TORNADOES
    AND VERY LARGE HAIL WOULD BE LIKELY WITH THIS ACTIVITY. AN INCREASE
    IN A SWLY LLJ INTO OK FRIDAY NIGHT WILL SUPPORT ANOTHER MCS
    SPREADING EWD INTO AR/OZARKS.

    PARTS OF OK MAY REQUIRE AN UPGRADE TO HIGHER PROBABILITIES AND
    MODERATE RISK IN LATER OUTLOOKS.

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    I've noticed every time when we are suppose to get a really good outbreak, it was always doomed due to either early cloud cover, too much wind, or both.

    So far, it has been a clear sky today, we'll see what tomorrow morning brings to us. However, sometime during the morning it looks promising for an active weather then bam, the clouds come out of nowhere and ruin it.

    I would rather to have all the action tomorrow, that way I'll be at home to track it. lol

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    A really good outbreak might be fun for storm chasers but deadly for others.. so I'm okay that the storms are dissipating. I hope they continue to do so.
    " You've Been Thunder Struck ! "

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    For Venture:

    Weekend Meteorologist

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    Ignore the graphics in the first post, since they are actually not for today anymore.



    DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    1230 AM CDT THU MAY 07 2009

    VALID 071200Z - 081200Z

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM OK/KS NEWD INTO THE WRN OH
    VALLEY...

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS STRETCHING FROM THE MID
    ATLANTIC STATES SEWD INTO THE GULF COAST STATES...

    ...SYNOPSIS...
    WNWLY MID LEVEL WINDS AT 50-70 KT ARE FORECAST TO EXTEND FROM THE
    PACIFIC NW INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND EWD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC
    STATES THROUGH THE PERIOD. WEAK EMBEDDED SHORTWAVE TROUGHS WILL
    PROGRESS THROUGH THIS FLOW...THOUGH NONE OF THEM ARE FORECAST TO BE
    STRONG ENOUGH TO RESULT IN HEIGHT FALLS OR AMPLIFY THE ZONAL FLOW.
    AT THE SURFACE...A WEAK FRONT/REMNANT OUTFLOW BOUNDARY WILL LINGER
    EAST OF THE APPALACHIANS SEWD INTO GULF COASTAL STATES. ANOTHER WEAK
    COLD FRONT/TROUGH IS FORECAST TO EXTEND FROM THE WRN GREAT LAKES
    SEWD INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS BY LATE AFTERNOON.

    ...SERN KS/SWRN MO/NRN AND CENTRAL OK/NWRN AR...
    MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER...DEWPOINTS AOA 70F...AND AFTERNOON HEATING
    WILL LEAD TO A VERY UNSTABLE AIRMASS...MLCAPES IN EXCESS OF 3000
    J/KG. HOWEVER...LACK OF ANY EVIDENT DYNAMICAL FORCING AND STRONG
    CAPPING BETWEEN 800 AND 700 MB WILL LIKELY INHIBIT STORM DEVELOPMENT
    THROUGH THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. SHOULD ANY STORMS FORM... DEEP LAYER
    SHEAR AND INSTABILITY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SUPERCELLS WITH VERY
    LARGE HAIL. HOWEVER...THUNDERSTORMS ARE MORE LIKELY OVERNIGHT AS
    BOUNDARY SAGS SLOWLY SEWD INTO FAR SERN KS/SWRN MO/NRN OK AND LOW
    LEVEL JET/WARM ADVECTION INTENSIFIES. GIVEN THE DEGREE OF
    INSTABILITY...30-40 KT MID LEVEL WNWLY FLOW AND SURFACE
    BOUNDARY...AN MCS WITH HAIL AND BOWING SEGMENTS/WIND APPEARS
    LIKELY...MAINLY AFTER 05Z.

  10. Default Re: Severe Weather Risk - May 7 Thurs

    Currently looks like any metro impacting activity will be isolated stuff that may break through the cap later today. Also the overnight MCS/MCC should stay north of the metro, though the northern sections could get brushed overnight. Don't be shocked to see some storms with high winds or large hail get close tonight, but main show looks like tomorrow (which pretty much means it won't happen tomorrow now ; ) ).

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    Theres a lot of conflicting thoughts out there on today, tonight (not so much), and tomorrow. Or it could be just outdated graphics. It'll be interesting to see if the forecast come more into line at noon during their schedluled release. Lots of fog out there this morning but I think it'll burn off fairly quickly later this morning. I'm still thinking theres a chance of an isolated storm or two today across the body of the state. I don't know why....maybe its just a wishcast. The NWS and the SPC seem to have different opinions ATTM for today. But not by much. Intersting conflict noted on the NWS sight this morning. Time sensitve graphs below, so they wont make sense later.



    This graph shows chances for all but NW oklahoma today
    VS. the text version which excludes the SW 1/3 of Oklahoma.
    Both of which don't concur with the SPC graph venture posted. hmmmm????

    Hazardous Weather Outlook
    HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK...CORRECTED
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
    500 AM CDT THU MAY 7 2009

    THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THROUGH TONIGHT
    ACROSS PORTIONS OF OKLAHOMA.

    LOCATION...
    THE SLIGHT RISK COVERS LOCATIONS EAST OF A LINE EXTENDING FROM
    FREEDOM...TO WEATHERFORD...TO PAULS VALLEY...TO ATOKA.


    TIMING...
    ALTHOUGH AN ISOLATED SEVERE STORM CANNOT BE RULED OUT LATE THIS
    AFTERNOON OR EVENING...THE MOST LIKELY TIME FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS
    WILL BE AFTER MIDNIGHT.

    IMPACTS...
    DAMAGE TO AUTOMOBILES...VEGETATION...AND ROOFS FROM LARGE HAIL.
    DAMAGING WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH.

    RECOMMENDED ACTIONS...
    STORM SPOTTER GROUPS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL ACROSS THE
    RISK AREA SHOULD PLAN FOR SEVERE WEATHER OPERATIONS FROM LATE THIS
    AFTERNOON UNTIL EARLY FRIDAY MORNING.

    DISCUSSION...
    WARM TEMPERATURES AND HIGH AMOUNTS OF MOISTURE WILL LEAD TO VERY
    UNSTABLE CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...DUE TO A MODERATE
    CAPPING INVERSION AND LACK OF ANY FOCUSING MECHANISMS...ANY STORMS
    THAT FORM DURING THE HEAT OF THE DAY WILL BE ISOLATED

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    Let it be known that 2009 is notorious for excess cloud cover on every storm day.

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