Coffee creek golf course sold for housing?

[BIGBBD]

Heard it either was sold or being sold and the plan is to develop new homes on the current course. This was done to Traditions golf course a while ago. I haven't seen any sales docs though. Is there a way to to verify this sale?

[bradh]

I had heard something similar. They put those new greens in a few years back and they didn't work at all, and it's killed the course.

[Filthy]

I had heard something similar. They put those new greens in a few years back and they didn't work at all, and it's killed the course.

That was a bad deal. For a while there, you could go and pay just about whatever you wanted to offer to play a round. And then it got to the point, where it didn't matter if you could play for free...it just wasn't worth it. I would be pretty upset as a homeowner if my house backed up to the existing golf course.

[Pete]

If I owned a house on that course I would be beyond upset.

Just goes to show you never can tell what will happen with surrounding property.

[Richard at Remax]

I think the chances of that actually happening are very slim

[BIGBBD]

Apartments, commercial, and housing being planned for the property...

[Rover]

Same thing happened at Traditions. It is important to look at who owns the golf course and what the restrictions are if you are going to buy on a private/corporate owned golf course based on being on the course. Most people don't think to ask or check it out when they are buying.

[shadfar]

wow. if i was a homeowner whose house backed up to the golf course i would be upset.

[chuck5815]

Those apartments on Covell are small potatoes now, I'd say

[Snowman]

I am a bit surprised as many golf courses in the North OKC/Edmond area are able to maintain operation as have

[Rover]

Yes, and nationally millennial are ditching golf as too boring.

[Richard at Remax]

I'll eat my words. I can't find any literature on it but that seems to be the case about Coffee Creek. Unreal.

I think the problem we have is a lack of exclusive clubs/destination resort courses in the metro. And to add to that the quality of courses. Oak Tree National is as good as it gets course wise. While Gaillardia and OKC Golf & CC are great Country Clubs with pretty solid courses. Oak Tree CC isn't far behind. But that's about it.

OKC GCC is starting to have membership problems of their own though. He could have been fibbing but I played a tournament there not too long ago and a guy in the pro shop said the average age of the membership is in the 60s. They never used to have problems getting members but now I know they are calling around soliciting. The Greens and Quail Creek are doing this as well to get younger.

Rose Creek could have been cool but with a Meh design and trying to cram as many houses on the course, it lost it's appeal. Nice new clubhouse though. There's a reason they can't stay private. Winter Creek was supposed to be the Oak Tree of the way south side but it got unlucky being built during the wrong time in a crap economy and hasn't recovered. I'm surprised it's still open. Fun course. I can see Golf Club of Edmond picking up some steam in the next few years. They have put a lot of money in the course, and with Edmond growing that way I think they could see a boost. The could use a new clubhouse though.

I will say our public courses are better than a lot of other cities. The problem is they cram too many people on. So now a typical Saturday or Sunday round is a good 4 to 5 hours. People just don't seem to want to do that any more. Which is probably why Top Golf is such a hit.

I know Aubrey had a pipe dream about building a really exclusive club out near Arcadia. Also, that old casino resort development on I35 and Hefner (I think) was supposed to have nice course too.

[bradh]

OKC municipal courses are top notch compared to other cities' public courses. The problem is, I've never lived anywhere else that allows fivesomes on courses. It kills the round length at places like Hefner, which is sad because all of my out of town buddies I've taken to play there absolutely love the course.

[Filthy]

Rose Creek could have been cool but with a Meh design and trying to cram as many houses on the course, it lost it's appeal. Nice new clubhouse though. There's a reason they can't stay private. I will say our public courses are better than a lot of other cities.

Rose Creek is my home course, (as posted in my avatar) and there are so many issues, (non golf related) within the semi-new ownership group, that they have lost quite a few members. I'm not saying that they have run it into the ground...but they haven't done themselves any favors. The culture within, has changed so much, and they have literally "banned" or "run off" some of the best golfers around. And with the golfing community a pretty tight fraternity.....members are leaving in droves. Mid year, they voided all Master memberships ($30,000/year) and most of those guys were so pissed...that they split off between Gallardia and Oak Tree.

I agree in your assessment, that I believe golf Club of Edmond, stands to benefit the most in the near future with coffee creek closing, and the growth of NE Edmond.

[onthestrip]

Apartments, commercial, and housing being planned for the property...

Good luck getting Edmond citizens and neighborhood associations to go for apartments. Apartments in Edmond are a non-starter to many.

Rose Creek is my home course, (as posted in my avatar) and there are so many issues, (non golf related) within the semi-new ownership group, that they have lost quite a few members. I'm not saying that they have run it into the ground...but they haven't done themselves any favors. The culture within, has changed so much, and they have literally "banned" or "run off" some of the best golfers around. And with the golfing community a pretty tight fraternity.....members are leaving in droves. Mid year, they voided all Master memberships ($30,000/year) and most of those guys were so pissed...that they split off between Gallardia and Oak Tree.

I agree in your assessment, that I believe golf Club of Edmond, stands to benefit the most in the near future with coffee creek closing, and the growth of NE Edmond.

Ran off and banned members? How so?

And what is a master membership and what did that get you?

[Filthy]

Ran off and banned members? How so?

Hard to summarize in great detail, but one of the things that made that clubhouse great, was the fact that its membership base was fairly young. (Mid to late 30s/early 40s) However, that brought with it, and great deal of drunken debauchery, and otherwise questionable activities. (Basically a frat house, with a golf course.) This new ownership group has cleaned house, trying to "change the image"
and in some individual incidents have asked a few "key members and member guests" to leave. Letting it be known, that they would not be allowed back on the property. Within this group of people, it is very cliquish....so, as a few heavy hitters left...so, did the minions. Sheep following the herd really.
There is a lot of drama/conflict right now, between members and management. But this isn't really the forum to air out anyone's dirty laundry.

What is a master membership and what did that get you?

I would assume, full access to the Pool/Facilities as well as full meal plans. I wouldn't know all the details, as I'm not Big Time Timmy Jimmy. (I'm just a guy who likes to play golf)

[HangryHippo]

Hard to summarize in great detail, but one of the things that made that clubhouse great, was the fact that its membership base was fairly young. (Mid to late 30s/early 40s) However, that brought with it, and great deal of drunken debauchery, and otherwise questionable activities. (Basically a frat house, with a golf course.) This new ownership group has cleaned house, trying to "change the image"
and in some individual incidents have asked a few "key members and member guests" to leave. Letting it be known, that they would not be allowed back on the property. Within this group of people, it is very cliquish....so, as a few heavy hitters left...so, did the minions. Sheep following the herd really.
There is a lot of drama/conflict right now, between members and management. But this isn't really the forum to air out anyone's dirty laundry.

What is the problem with weeding out the douchebags?

[Filthy]

What is the problem with weeding out the douchebags?

In theory...nothing at all.

[BIGBBD]

Sale finalized last week.

[theanvil]

Sale finalized last week.

That's a shame, Coffee Creek had a nice layout. The same people also own River Oaks. I hope they don't do the same thing there.

[Richard at Remax]

Just got this email

Dear Richard,

On January 12, 2017, Coffee Creek Golf Course was purchased by a new investment group. The new ownership has decided to close the golf course immediatley.

After 26 years of service to the golf community of Central Oklahoma, I want to say THANK YOU to all of our great customers that have enjoyed playing at Coffee Creek throughout that time. It has been a pleasure providing to you a top notch golf expereince since 1991. Wether a daily player, an event client, or just an occasional player on the weekends, my life has been enriched by knowing all of you. As I always teach the staff - "It is all about the people". I hope you remember all the good times at Coffee Creek, playing with your friends and family. That is what golf is all about.

After 26 years of operating Coffee Creek, I will miss it, as I am sure you will too.

A few technical issues to pass along.

If you have a gift card, we will be honoring those at River Oaks Golf Club. If you have a donation round we will also honor those at River Oaks Golf Club, although the restrictions might be slightly different. Please call us at River Oaks (405-771-5800) if you have any questions regarding either.

See ya at the course,

Andy

[Richard at Remax]

http://www.edmondsun.com/news/coffee...626705b8b.html

Sounds like apartments could be a part of the new development. I expect things to get real ugly

[onthestrip]

http://www.edmondsun.com/news/coffee...626705b8b.html

Sounds like apartments could be a part of the new development. I expect things to get real ugly

If luxury apartments over quality retail gets push back, then you know apartments right in the middle of existing housing will get all kinds of nay sayers.

[jerrywall]

If luxury apartments over quality retail gets push back, then you know apartments right in the middle of existing housing will get all kinds of nay sayers.

I think it depends. It we're talking more condo-ish, ownership type high end luxury apartments, it would do well there, and be welcome. But generic crappy apartments don't seem to be sustainable and almost always tend to fall into disrepair.

I also think it's understandable. This is a very different situation than someone buying a high end house next to an undeveloped lot. They purchased these homes while next to a golf course. It's reasonable to assume it'd remain.

[coop2773]

River Oaks Country Club - $4,350,000.00 E-mail
shRiver Oaks Country Club is a very nice 18 Hole Private golf course property. River Oaks has a one story 9,758 square foot clubhouse with a great restaurant that seats 50 with a separate area for formal functions that seats 150. They have an outside patio that will seat approximately 100 also. They have a full Bar Service and the restaurant is open daily for lunch but only opened two nights a week for members. The other nights the Restaurant and Bar are open for private bookings. The restaurant is served by a full size kitchen. There is an approximate 1,200 square foot pro shop in the clubhouse that offers a nice inventory of golf balls, tees, hats and golf apparel. There are also several executive offices for the management in the clubhouse. There is a barn type 4,800 metal golf cart storage facility that houses 80 electric golf carts. There is a separate 6,000 square foot steel maintenance building that houses all of the maintenance equipment which is all owned by the country club.
The golf course has a lot of character to it and it is both challenging and fun to play. The golf course has Bermuda Grass fairways and Penn G-2 Bent Grass greens. The golf course has 6.5 to 7.0 foot concrete cart paths that are in good shape. There are two practice putting greens and a practice driving range that will serve approximately 40 people at a time. River Oaks has an excellent water source with 5 working water wells with a capacity of 290,000,000 Gallons Annually. The wells were installed in 2011 and the pumps have a capacity of 1,250 gallons per minute. River Oaks has Zero water costs for buying water. River Oaks has the cash flow and management inclination to keep the property and the golf course in great shape.