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    Default Old Gold's @ NW Expwy & Portland

    Looked to see if there was already a thread on this and didn't see one. If there is, please merge.

    I noticed several weeks back some graffiti on the front. Didn't notice any today so it must've been covered up. But I can see this becoming a back and forth battle. It's never a good sign when an abandoned structure starts getting graffitied. Any word on what will become of this.

    And this also brings up another question. When a business moves out, can a municipality compel the owner of the building to keep it in good shape? Over the years, I've noticed some long abandoned buildings in Edmond begin to look ragged, overgrown, and not well kept. There was a restaurant on south Broadway (which I believe has since been torn down), the old rib crib on Broadway as well as a few others I can't think of off thr top of my head that set empty for years and started to look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traxx View Post
    Looked to see if there was already a thread on this and didn't see one. If there is, please merge.

    I noticed several weeks back some graffiti on the front. Didn't notice any today so it must've been covered up. But I can see this becoming a back and forth battle. It's never a good sign when an abandoned structure starts getting graffitied. Any word on what will become of this.

    And this also brings up another question. When a business moves out, can a municipality compel the owner of the building to keep it in good shape? Over the years, I've noticed some long abandoned buildings in Edmond begin to look ragged, overgrown, and not well kept. There was a restaurant on south Broadway (which I believe has since been torn down), the old rib crib on Broadway as well as a few others I can't think of off thr top of my head that set empty for years and started to look bad.
    Don't think so. I recall that, a couple years ago, our "Lincoln Lawmakers" enacted legislation that actually makes it harder for cities to compel property upkeep. It was infringing on property owners liberties, or somesuch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dob Hooligan View Post
    Don't think so. I recall that, a couple years ago, our "Lincoln Lawmakers" enacted legislation that actually makes it harder for cities to compel property upkeep. It was infringing on property owners liberties, or somesuch.
    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traxx View Post
    Link?
    Afraid not. I'm too lazy to learn how to do that. google something like "Oklahoma legislature restricting municipal code laws".

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    If that is the case, it sounds like the code enforcement department for OKC needs a revamp. Between dilapidated structures, which are a liability issue, jungle weeds growing through the concrete in OKC and visual pollution like graffiti and trash, OKC needs to have more pride! Positive impressions are important for outsiders.

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    You can contact the action center and report graffiti and then once the city person goes out and gives notice they have a duration of time to have it removed.

    https://library.municode.com/ok/okla..._CH35NU_ARTVGR

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    OKC can cite property owners for graffiti, high weeds/grass and unsecured buildings, AFAIK. But, what they can do beyond that as it relates to performance, I don't know for sure. Used to be the city could take action after several citations and place a lien on the property deed.

    I don't think the city can take the property, based on those types of violations.

    On a side note, I think that Gold's property has a solid ownership group and should be well maintained until they get a new tenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dob Hooligan View Post
    Afraid not. I'm too lazy to learn how to do that. google something like "Oklahoma legislature restricting municipal code laws".
    No help there. I found a nearly 700 page document that I'm not reading. The search had several returns that all appeared to be the same thing.

    If you have access to the law, simply copy the url and paste it in your post. Takes a couple of seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dob Hooligan View Post
    OKC can cite property owners for graffiti, high weeds/grass and unsecured buildings, AFAIK. But, what they can do beyond that as it relates to performance, I don't know for sure. Used to be the city could take action after several citations and place a lien on the property deed.

    I don't think the city can take the property, based on those types of violations.

    On a side note, I think that Gold's property has a solid ownership group and should be well maintained until they get a new tenant.
    They can cite them and then remedy the problem by mowing or removing the graffiti etc. They will then place a lien on the property for the work they did to remedy the problem.

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    I noticed some roll-off dumpsters in front of the old Gold's Gym. Any ideas on what maybe going into the location?

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    I think the law in question is HB 2620 - Protect Property Rights Act from 2014. See this post for a link to the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I noticed some roll-off dumpsters in front of the old Gold's Gym. Any ideas on what maybe going into the location?
    Total Wine & More has filed plans to open at that site, but they still need to get approval through the courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WileyPostage View Post
    I think the law in question is HB 2620 - Protect Property Rights Act from 2014. See this post for a link to the law.
    That is outdated. Current language is at https://www.oscn.net/applications/os...?CiteID=473572 (revised multiple times since 2014) and https://www.oscn.net/applications/os...?CiteID=473579

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    They have taken out the old Circuit City "plug" part of the building down to the steel frame when I drove by yesterday. They have certainly spent a lot of money when they haven't won their court case yet. I hope they do and maybe their investment shows they are pretty confident in the ruling going their way.

    And I remember when that Circuit City was built. It was a big deal. Then became Gold's and now will maybe be a Total Wine store. Still bummed about them tearing down the old Johnnie's building up NW Expressway haha

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    If this happens, ironic that it is going to be right in front of the grocery store that doesn't sell alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjl View Post
    If this happens, ironic that it is going to be right in front of the grocery store that doesn't sell alcohol.
    Location, location, location

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Total Wine & More has filed plans to open at that site, but they still need to get approval through the courts.
    Total Wine is incredible. It will put some smaller Liquor stores out of biz. Can't compete with their prices. They are too efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seventyseven77 View Post
    Total Wine is incredible. It will put some smaller Liquor stores out of biz. Can't compete with their prices. They are too efficient.
    Agreed. I'm fortunate to live close to Byron's, and their prices are the best I have found in OKC. It will be interesting to see how they compare to Total Wine.

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