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Thread: Crosses in downtown OKC's skyline

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    Default Crosses in downtown OKC's skyline



    Most US cities have long abandoned the tradition of displaying crosses in their skylines at Christmas and Easter but OKC still does it and to my knowledge is the only city in the US where that is so. Most cities display Christmas decorations of some sort but never crosses. I am not taking a stand for or against this practice, I just want to know people's opinions on it. I can see both sides personally.

    Pro - It's a long-held Oklahoma tradition. There are pictures dating back to the 1930s that show First National Tower with a cross lit for the Christmas season. Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ and the crosses symbolize that.

    Against - The politicization of Christianity today has made the cross a divisive political symbol in the eyes of some and the skyline belongs to everyone regardless of religious or political affiliation.

    So what are your thoughts on the practice? Do you enjoy seeing the crosses lit for Christmas and Easter? Would you rather see something else instead?

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    If I owned a skyscraper, I wouldn't light a cross on it. Really I don't care and I don't "enjoy" seeing them.

    I do think it is their choice and they should have that right to display them.

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    I don't have a problem with it. It's private property so they can do as they like. The skyline might be a public display, but the components that make up the downtown skyline do not belong to everyone.

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    Meh. Those who own the buildings can do what they want.

    Wouldn't be surprised if it eventually stopped here in the next few years, though. Someone will probably complain about it enough.

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    bchris you really have a hard on against any type of Christian anything.

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    I couldn't decide which one to post...take your pick: https://www.google.com/search?q=this...iw=320&bih=372

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    Yeah, the whiners will probably try to put a stop to it some day. It is private property and more power to them. The crosses have been a part of this city's Christmas skyline for years. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pahdz View Post
    bchris you really have a hard on against any type of Christian anything.
    I didn't say I was against it. If it stops, I hope it isn't because they are forced to. I just wanted to get opinions. Sorry if this topic has been discussed before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuatrodeMayo View Post
    I couldn't decide which one to post...take your pick: https://www.google.com/search?q=this...iw=320&bih=372
    Hmmm. I've been on here for over two years now and I haven't seen one thread on it.

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    The crosses are tired and boring and quite frankly make no sense. Its a birthday celebration for Pete's sake not a re-birth celebration. Why not swap out the crosses for something a bit more cheerful like the Star of David. Ya know celebrate the baby and his heritage. And eh it's guilt free to boot. WIN-WIN.

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    Geez...he posts a thread asking opinions and people get butt hurt and all up in his face. Relax for goodness sakes.

    If they are tradition then so be it. Personally I would like to see them get more creative than telling everyone in middle offices and those on the XX floor to keep their lights on. Give me more creativity...the crosses are boring.




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    Quote Originally Posted by venture View Post
    Geez...he posts a thread asking opinions and people get butt hurt and all up in his face. Relax for goodness sakes.

    If they are tradition then so be it. Personally I would like to see them get more creative than telling everyone in middle offices and those on the XX floor to keep their lights on. Give me more creativity...the crosses are boring.



    That's awesome. I guess they just painted the windows or something. Wouldn't be that hard to do. I'm thinking the new Sandridge Parkside building would be good for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    That's awesome. I guess they just painted the windows or something. Wouldn't be that hard to do. I'm thinking the new Sandridge Parkside building would be good for this.
    Probably just plastic wrap on the inside of the windows.

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    I don't enjoy seeing the crosses. In fact, it tends to make me roll my eyes the first time I see them every year. But ultimately, I couldn't give two sticks if they stay. It doesn't bother me in any real way, and if that's how the property management of those skyscrapers want to show their Christmas spirit, so be it. I'm sure if I owned a skyscraper, I'd light up things that piss people off, too.

    Just different people than the crosses piss off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    The crosses are tired and boring and quite frankly make no sense. Its a birthday celebration for Pete's sake not a re-birth celebration. Why not swap out the crosses for something a bit more cheerful like the Star of David. Ya know celebrate the baby and his heritage. And eh it's guilt free to boot. WIN-WIN.
    Why are you trying to bring Pete up in this? He hasn't even commented yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Peacock View Post
    I'm sure if I owned a skyscraper, I'd light up things that piss people off, too.

    Just different people than the crosses piss off.
    Kind of like when the Duke Energy tower in Charlotte went rainbow for their gay pride event. That really ticked off a lot of people even in a city that is considerably more liberal than OKC is.

    Seriously I think it would be nice if the building owners would do more elaborate Christmas decorations like what venture posted above. It's ultimately up to the building owners though.

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    Seems like crosses would be more appropriate for Easter.

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    Meh. I don't care if they do it or not (although it's something pretty simple to do for the holidays). That being said, considering I'm sure it boils the blood of some of the folks in the local atheist church and the freedom from religion foundation, I hope they continue.

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    They just look cheesy. The colored light displays that Venture posted are much more pleasing, creative, and inclusive.

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    It doesn't really matter to me if they continue or decide stop displaying crosses.I can't believe anyine cares about something so trivial.

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    I don't mind one way or the other but if they are gonna do it I wish they would add some colors.

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    there needs to be another option in that poll.. for "don't care"

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    I have no feeling one way or the other. The real fun would begin if somebody displayed the star and crescent during Ramadan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerguy View Post
    I have no feeling one way or the other. The real fun would begin if somebody displayed the star and crescent during Ramadan.
    True. That or anything else that the right wing fundamentalists didn't like would cause an major uproar I am sure.

    It would be very interested to see whether Republicans would support their stance that property owners can make their own decisions if one of the high-rise owners decided to put a star and crescent up or if the Devon tower decided to do a rainbow lighting scheme with its LED system to celebrate OKC gay pride.

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    I voted that I didn't enjoy them... Just seems bland and out of date.

    Now, I think it is up to the building owner and the company that is located in the building to determine if they want to display.

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